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  • Originally posted by Spark View Post
    Green: Refs erred in Polamalu-TD ruling at end of Chargers-Steelers Story Highlights
    The non-TD had a direct impact on the pre-game betting line, Steelers (-5)
    Green says the officiating crew erred in how to judge a play after an illegal pass







    PITTSBURGH (AP) -- The first 11-10 game in NFL history shouldn't have ended that way, referee Scott Green said after a last-minute touchdown was errantly taken away from the Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday.

    The officiating mistake didn't affect the outcome since the Steelers still would have won, but the touchdown would have changed the score to 17-10 -- or, more likely, 18-10, since the teams were lined up for an extra-point try that was never attempted.

    On first-and-10 from San Diego's 21 with 5 seconds remaining, Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers threw a short pass to LaDainian Tomlinson over the middle for 3 yards. Tomlinson turned and made a handoff-type lateral to wide receiver Chris Chambers, who attempted to pitch the ball to a teammate only to have safety Troy Polamalu scoop it up and score from the 12 (VIDEO).

    Both teams left the field on what looked to be a game-ending play, but were called back by the officials for the extra-point attempt. At that point, the replay official called for a review.

    After watching the play, Green initially announced the ruling on the field was upheld and the touchdown counted. But the officiating crew huddled again before the extra-point attempt and changed the call, deciding that an illegal forward pass by Rivers should've ended the play.

    Green, in a postgame interview with a pool reporter, said that call was errant -- even though his explanation for the confusion was almost as confusing as the play itself.

    "We should have let the play go through in the end, yes," Green said. "It was misinterpreted that instead of killing the play, we should have let the play go through."

    Green said the confusion occurred because there was a misunderstanding about whether Rivers' pass or Tomlinson's lateral was in question.

    "The first pass was the one that was illegal, but it only kills the play if it hits the ground," Green said. "That was incorrect to have killed it at that point. The ruling should have let the play go on. That's just the way that it played out. We believe the second pass (by Tomlinson) was legal."

    Green was asked why, since the first pass by Rivers did not hit the ground, the officials decided after huddling that the play should have ended there.

    "We didn't kill it on the field," Green said. "After (the) discussion we decided ... there was some confusion over which pass we were talking about and it was decided that it was the second pass that was illegal that did hit the ground and therefore we killed the play there."

    However, the officials realized afterward they erred.

    "I know," Green said. "The rule was misinterpreted."

    Asked about the officiating -- the Steelers drew 115 yards in penalties to the Chargers' 5 -- Pittsburgh coach Mike Tomlin declined to comment.

    "No, I have never seen a game ended with 13-to-1 in penalties, but I am not answering questions about the officiating," Tomlin said.

    The call affected betting on the game since the Steelers were 5-point favorites and would have covered if the touchdown counted.
    My head hurts from trying to follow his explanation...it makes zero sense. I bet he wakes up tomorrow wishing he had said nothing and waited to review the play. He does come across as a confused ref that looks like he is trying to cover something up.....
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    • Originally posted by Three Jack View Post
      My head hurts from trying to follow his explanation...it makes zero sense. I bet he wakes up tomorrow wishing he had said nothing and waited to review the play. He does come across as a confused ref that looks like he is trying to cover something up.....

      totally agree he is clueless. you know the league is gonna change this all around. you know its coming. the spin is gonna happen. it always does
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      • Originally posted by 10DimeBry View Post
        totally agree he is clueless. you know the league is gonna change this all around. you know its coming. the spin is gonna happen. it always does
        Not true...they called out Hochuli on the SD/Den play earlier this year.
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        • Looks to me like the refs f'ed up the rules and judges the play wrong...even though the 1st lateral was FWD (or so they say), it didn't hit the ground so it should've been allowed to continue.

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          • the best part is they went to the reply booth.....then came back and ruled again for the 2nd time TOUCHDOWN then for whatever reason one of the officials decided to change the call to game over no TD. fishy dont ya think??
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            • Asked about the officiating -- the Steelers drew 115 yards in penalties to the Chargers' 5 -- Pittsburgh coach Mike Tomlin declined to comment.

              "No, I have never seen a game ended with 13-to-1 in penalties, but I am not answering questions about the officiating," Tomlin said.

              The call affected betting on the game since the Steelers were 5-point favorites and would have covered if the touchdown counted.




              I would love to know the percentage of the public players on the Steelers, since the line moved from like 3- up to 5 or even 5- I believe the public was heavy on the Steelers. That makes it shady, not just the one call but add in the 13-1 discrepancy and its no wonder people are skeptical of the NFL.
              NBA is a joke

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              • Originally posted by 10DimeBry View Post
                the best part is they went to the reply booth.....then came back and ruled again for the 2nd time TOUCHDOWN then for whatever reason one of the officials decided to change the call to game over no TD. fishy dont ya think??
                yes

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                • watch the replay in slow-mo with an open fucking mind. Jesus, everybody and their mother thinks it has to be a fix, because they want it to be a fix. Watch it without thinking "this is definitely a fix", and maybe you'll see something different. I might be late to this party...... but either way it doesn't make one ounce of difference. Seventeen pages of arguement back and forth, and you know what.... holy shit..... the score is still 11-10....Put it to bed already, it doesn't matter whether it's fixed or not, Because 100% of you will be back betting next week, regardless of anything. Nobody's changing shit and nothing anybody says makes a difference. That's it and that's all
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                  • Originally posted by Kaptain View Post
                    My post to you out of line----pointing out the obvious, that some don't want to see.......

                    I guess GREEK is right, and he hit the nail on the head, when he said I was the antagonizer here....

                    He and Chado have a ton of e-mails stating so....remember....

                    Well PAPI---I'm going to BED, I've seen enough and had enough of the shots at other people on a constant basis, then saying I'm sorry, and then do it again....

                    also tired of seeing hyped up picks, and then the tallies for wins and losses don't match up....

                    I've disagreed with numerous people on this site, been called ignorant, hard headed, and what surprises me is GREEK didn't give me his obligatory GFYM phrase....which he does quite often....does the name calling quite often....flies off the handle, quite often....

                    gets away with it too.....gets away with what you say....that's just a few....

                    I'm going to Bed now PAPI---long day ahead of me, you entertain the 2 bufoons.....They are exactly what this Forum needs......Like the commercial says----you want em, you got em....TOYOTA.....

                    pretty pitiful when you can't give your opinion on a forum without being attacked, ridiculed, called ignorant, hardheaded, and like I say, was spared the GREEKS famous GFYM....how lucky am I....

                    These people aren't mature enough to have a debate.......Yeh I know, it's FIXED.....Pitiful

                    Get back to ya when I get a chance.....lots of work ahead of me, crimped for time....hold the fort down till I have a chance to post again....

                    Good night PAPI----love ya PAL
                    I like you Kapt, but some of this is true and some of this is being th!ck headed.
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                    • Originally posted by 10DimeBry View Post
                      OMFG did you read this?? and you ppl believe these refs are competent enough to make calls correctly and know whats at stake with regards to tie breakers? they cant even get the story right. the call on the field was TD and they still couldnt hold to that. Someone had SD and its obvious by the quotes above. WOW just WOW
                      Once again I disagree with you.


                      Green said the confusion occurred because there was a misunderstanding about whether Rivers' pass or Tomlinson's lateral was in question.
                      There was lots of confusion. They admit to the confusion. They're not competent to get the call right but they're competent enough to get the FIX right on the last play of the game on some one in a million freak play.

                      SERIOUSLY, if the fix is on why wait for some freak play on the last play of the game? I guess LT and Chambers were in on the fix. They knew they could have an illegal foward pass because it would be reviewed and reversed.

                      It's just another example of the terrible officiating in the NFL.

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                      • "But the officiating crew huddled again before the extra-point attempt and changed the call, deciding that an illegal forward pass by Rivers should've ended the play"

                        That is the key statement...THEY WERE WRONG IN THIS DECISION...PLAY SHOULD'VE CONTINUED, HENCE THE TD SHOULD'VE COUNTED.

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                        • Originally posted by Kaptain View Post
                          My post to you out of line----pointing out the obvious, that some don't want to see.......

                          I guess GREEK is right, and he hit the nail on the head, when he said I was the antagonizer here....

                          He and Chado have a ton of e-mails stating so....remember....

                          Well PAPI---I'm going to BED, I've seen enough and had enough of the shots at other people on a constant basis, then saying I'm sorry, and then do it again....

                          also tired of seeing hyped up picks, and then the tallies for wins and losses don't match up....

                          I've disagreed with numerous people on this site, been called ignorant, hard headed, and what surprises me is GREEK didn't give me his obligatory GFYM phrase....which he does quite often....does the name calling quite often....flies off the handle, quite often....

                          gets away with it too.....gets away with what you say....that's just a few....

                          I'm going to Bed now PAPI---long day ahead of me, you entertain the 2 bufoons.....They are exactly what this Forum needs......Like the commercial says----you want em, you got em....TOYOTA.....

                          pretty pitiful when you can't give your opinion on a forum without being attacked, ridiculed, called ignorant, hardheaded, and like I say, was spared the GREEKS famous GFYM....how lucky am I....

                          These people aren't mature enough to have a debate.......Yeh I know, it's FIXED.....Pitiful

                          Get back to ya when I get a chance.....lots of work ahead of me, crimped for time....hold the fort down till I have a chance to post again....

                          Good night PAPI----love ya PAL
                          kapt...i like you...BUT!


                          you do bust on..... greek & chado...ANYTIME YOU CAN!

                          im not here all the time, but seems your always around to stir the pot...... which = MR.KETTLE!

                          Last edited by beerball101; 11-17-2008, 12:04 AM.

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                          • Originally posted by 10dimebry View Post
                            the best part is they went to the reply booth.....then came back and ruled again for the 2nd time touchdown then for whatever reason one of the officials decided to change the call to game over no td. Fishy dont ya think??
                            i find it hard to believe that with what 6 or 7 officials on the field, nobody knew the right call.

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                            • Let's be realistic. If you're going to fix a game they're going to fix a game with a big spread. There's more room for error. You can bet the big underdog. The dog can still lose the game while covering the spread. The refs can keep the game close. It's much tougher in a tight game with a 3 point spread.

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                              • Originally posted by beerball101 View Post
                                kapt...i like you...BUT!


                                you do bust..... greek & chado...ANYTIME YOU CAN!

                                im not here all the time, but seems your always around to stir the pot...... which = MR.KETTLE!

                                I agree. He waits for the opportune moment to attack poor little Chado who is vulnerable to Kapts abuse.
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