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I never wanna hear that this shit isnt fixed ever again !!!!
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Originally posted by frankb03 View Posti didn't bet the game. I'm not a fan of either team. I stopped watching the game prior to pitt kicking the game winning fg. I heard about the strange ending when griffey text me about a bad loss. Then he text me he won his bet. When i arrived back home i rewound my tivo. Initially, i had no idea about the controversy. When watching the replay in slo-mo and freezing the play imo it was conclusive evidence. Lt releases the ball from his left hand on the 26. #89 clearly caught the ball on the 27. To me it's an obvious illegal forward pass. This was my feeling long before this thread got out of control. members often scream fix after tough loses. the thought of the game being fixed because it was overturned never entered my mind till i read these threads.
i screamed fix after a furtunate win ( which would have been a brutal loss )
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Originally posted by harold_bush View PostThe NFL admitted that Troy Polamalu's fumble return for a touchdown in the waning seconds of Sunday's game against the Chargers should have counted.
This really affected betting because the spread was 3 with the Steelers favored and San Diego would have lost by seven had the touchdown stood. Instead, Pittsburgh won 11-10 due to an officiating mistake. We're guessing that most bets were on the Steelers. The score can no longer be changed.
Source: San Diego Union-Tribune
GUESS THAT SETTLES THAT!
that = fixed. they only reviewed it due to ATS there was ZERO reason to even challenge the call period end of discussion the game was over 17-10 ruling on the field was TD. only reason for a booth review was for ATS purposes only2013 NCAA POD Record
8-3ATS +3.80 units
2013 NFL POD Record
1-2 ATS -4.50 units
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Originally posted by Kaptain View PostBesides....what troubles me, is there has to be CONCLUSIVE evidence to overturn a ruling on the field.....Field Ref said TD, man in the booth saw CONCLUSIVE evidence in his eyes to overturn the field call....
In college the both 'ref' makes the call.
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Originally posted by DAREALDEAL View Postcostas and the rest of the reporters are pretty much not allowed to talk negatively about the nfl...costas however, has been in the game too long and i dont think it would affect him to make controversial comments about the nfl....the nfl agreed it was the wrong call now .....are you going to keep saying it was the right call? what do you see that nobody else does and why are you so sure its still correct after knowing what you know now? makes you look very ignorant
what do I see that nobody else does.....wow---several people in this thread have said it was forward.....maybe they are trying to make themselves look IGNORANT also....
to make the staement I look very Ignorant is childish, immature, and it's not your first shot at me in this Forum.....
I asked you a question....what is your AGENDA here...to try and make me look ignorant or just blatantly come out and say I look Ignorant....
Tha's pretty ignorant and childish in its self.....
I see what I see....Tem man in the booth saw it that way....others saw it that way....others saw it your way also....that's the good part about life, difference of opinion, in a professional manner....
Don't think you can do that can you.....be professional, and let em have my opinion, as I let you have yours, with calling you ignorant....
The Mods should give your ass a 7 day ban for classless actions IMO....cause you're acting that way....Is that your agenda, to piss me off....It won't work....I see things my way, as you see thing your way, doesn't amke yours Ignorant, nor mine....
Get some style with ya DAREALDEAL
Don't make me go Cajun on your Ass!
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Originally posted by frankb03 View PostI believe you are mistaken. The man in the reply booth has no say. The FINAL decision is the referee's based on the reply he views.
In college the both 'ref' makes the call.Three Jack's Record http://www.bettorschat.com/forums/sh...10#post1323910
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Originally posted by frankb03 View PostI didn't bet the game. I'm not a fan of either team. I stopped watching the game prior to Pitt kicking the game winning FG. I heard about the strange ending when Griffey text me about a bad loss. Then he text me he won his bet. When I arrived back home I rewound my TIVO. Initially, I had no idea about the controversy. When watching the replay in slo-mo and freezing the play IMO it was conclusive evidence. LT releases the ball from his left hand on the 26. #89 clearly caught the ball on the 27. To me it's an obvious illegal forward pass. This was my feeling long before this thread got out of control. Members often scream fix after tough loses. The thought of the game being fixed because it was overturned never entered my mind till I read these threads.
thats funny, frank! how long is your arm outstretched....about a yard ..momentum moving foward/ passing backwards......hmmmn!
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Originally posted by harold_bush View PostThe NFL admitted that Troy Polamalu's fumble return for a touchdown in the waning seconds of Sunday's game against the Chargers should have counted.
This really affected betting because the spread was 3 with the Steelers favored and San Diego would have lost by seven had the touchdown stood. Instead, Pittsburgh won 11-10 due to an officiating mistake. We're guessing that most bets were on the Steelers. The score can no longer be changed.
Source: San Diego Union-Tribune
GUESS THAT SETTLES THAT!Last edited by weazel079; 11-16-2008, 11:40 PM.MLB (2014): (3-4) -.9 units
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Originally posted by Kaptain View PostI don't care what Costas has to say about the call.....I care about the call the man who was in the booth made.....
what do I see that nobody else does.....wow---several people in this thread have said it was forward.....maybe they are trying to make themselves look IGNORANT also....
to make the staement I look very Ignorant is childish, immature, and it's not your first shot at me in this Forum.....
I asked you a question....what is your AGENDA here...to try and make me look ignorant or just blatantly come out and say I look Ignorant....
Tha's pretty ignorant and childish in its self.....
I see what I see....Tem man in the booth saw it that way....others saw it that way....others saw it your way also....that's the good part about life, difference of opinion, in a professional manner....
Don't think you can do that can you.....be professional, and let em have my opinion, as I let you have yours, with calling you ignorant....
The Mods should give your ass a 7 day ban for classless actions IMO....cause you're acting that way....Is that your agenda, to piss me off....It won't work....I see things my way, as you see thing your way, doesn't amke yours Ignorant, nor mine....
Get some style with ya DAREALDEAL
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Originally posted by beerball101 View Postthats funny, frank! how long is your arm outstretched....about a yard ..momentum moving foward/ passing backwards......hmmmn!
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my whole point is why review the call to begin with???? I mean those of you who are in the ......"they need to get the call right camp" well then why dont they review every single penalty and judgement call in a game? ppl make mistakes but this was a total sham.
the ruling on the field was TD why even review it other than the ATS issue?? someone answer me this. and please dont give me the "tie breaker" answer either2013 NCAA POD Record
8-3ATS +3.80 units
2013 NFL POD Record
1-2 ATS -4.50 units
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Green: Refs erred in Polamalu-TD ruling at end of Chargers-Steelers Story Highlights
The non-TD had a direct impact on the pre-game betting line, Steelers (-5)
Green says the officiating crew erred in how to judge a play after an illegal pass
PITTSBURGH (AP) -- The first 11-10 game in NFL history shouldn't have ended that way, referee Scott Green said after a last-minute touchdown was errantly taken away from the Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday.
The officiating mistake didn't affect the outcome since the Steelers still would have won, but the touchdown would have changed the score to 17-10 -- or, more likely, 18-10, since the teams were lined up for an extra-point try that was never attempted.
On first-and-10 from San Diego's 21 with 5 seconds remaining, Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers threw a short pass to LaDainian Tomlinson over the middle for 3 yards. Tomlinson turned and made a handoff-type lateral to wide receiver Chris Chambers, who attempted to pitch the ball to a teammate only to have safety Troy Polamalu scoop it up and score from the 12 (VIDEO).
Both teams left the field on what looked to be a game-ending play, but were called back by the officials for the extra-point attempt. At that point, the replay official called for a review.
After watching the play, Green initially announced the ruling on the field was upheld and the touchdown counted. But the officiating crew huddled again before the extra-point attempt and changed the call, deciding that an illegal forward pass by Rivers should've ended the play.
Green, in a postgame interview with a pool reporter, said that call was errant -- even though his explanation for the confusion was almost as confusing as the play itself.
"We should have let the play go through in the end, yes," Green said. "It was misinterpreted that instead of killing the play, we should have let the play go through."
Green said the confusion occurred because there was a misunderstanding about whether Rivers' pass or Tomlinson's lateral was in question.
"The first pass was the one that was illegal, but it only kills the play if it hits the ground," Green said. "That was incorrect to have killed it at that point. The ruling should have let the play go on. That's just the way that it played out. We believe the second pass (by Tomlinson) was legal."
Green was asked why, since the first pass by Rivers did not hit the ground, the officials decided after huddling that the play should have ended there.
"We didn't kill it on the field," Green said. "After (the) discussion we decided ... there was some confusion over which pass we were talking about and it was decided that it was the second pass that was illegal that did hit the ground and therefore we killed the play there."
However, the officials realized afterward they erred.
"I know," Green said. "The rule was misinterpreted."
Asked about the officiating -- the Steelers drew 115 yards in penalties to the Chargers' 5 -- Pittsburgh coach Mike Tomlin declined to comment.
"No, I have never seen a game ended with 13-to-1 in penalties, but I am not answering questions about the officiating," Tomlin said.
The call affected betting on the game since the Steelers were 5-point favorites and would have covered if the touchdown counted.
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