Yes, I guess the way the webmaster bets them is he only puts 3 units on High roller, doesn't play to win 3. He uses 3 units to win 2.7 etc instead of 3.3 to win 3.
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Jimmy, I have to know....do you also post as "DaMan" over at the other site, or are you just stealing his plays because he was on a hot streak? Give it to me straight! Either way your unethical practices dont surprise me.Everybody dies, but not everyone lives.
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Originally posted by $Jimmy$Yes, I guess the way the webmaster bets them is he only puts 3 units on High roller, doesn't play to win 3. He uses 3 units to win 2.7 etc instead of 3.3 to win 3.
Does anyone see what I'm saying? No matter what the juice is, whether you are taking a team at minus 150 or minus 250 on a 3 unit play, the webmaster is only going to lose 3 units, whereas with $Jimmy$, you are going to lose 4.5 units, or 7.5 units. So, let's say that if he only has one pick for the day and it is a 3 unit play at -110. If it loses, the site will say that they only lost 3 units on the day, whereas $JIMMY$ will (or should) report back that they lost 3.3 units. If they go on a 10 day losing streak only playing one 3 unit game a day where the line is -110, the site will only have them down 30 units, but they will really be down 33 units? Do people see what I'm saying?
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Do people see what I'm saying?
I do...I guess the drama and controversy is what he lives for...These explainations, excuses, or even lies which many are viewing his responses, comments, statements, reasons, answers, etc as..are unfreakin real imo...I really dont know how a Webmaster works..but I do know that if your going to Tout a record as your means of getting people to buy you service, then you better make damn sure that everything is ACCURATE or else you just cost your ass potential customers...
I dont see why, if he knew of this problem or difference...why he just didnt take the necessary steps to inform everyone of it beforehand and not wait to someone brings it up...and especially when he has already been proven by the Mods and others to have been deceitful alot in the past...This would of saved him alot of unneccessary bullshit to him and also to this forum which some of us here really dont appreciate having to deal with....Like I mentioned, this Drama and Controversy is Unfreakin Real!
btw, I thought he said his High Rollers were 5 units plays.Last edited by Co-Captain; 06-14-2005, 12:37 AM.
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i really dont know much about this and never have had a beef with jimmy
and i dont play service picks
your innocent till proven guilty in my book
but if all this is true
i just want to be the first to give jimmy a going away party
GOODBYE JIMMY
truckinwe can share the women, we can share the wine
we can share what we got of yours cause we done shared all of mine.
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Jimmy--JImmy--Jimmy---
Theres an old saying that a Leopard can't change his spots...
Appears to me you still haven't changed or even tried to...
We're right back where we started---doubt--confusion--same old BS....
I gave you the benefit of the doubt several times in the past---no longer will I do that..
You either purposely are deceiving people, or you don't know any better...Either way is enough reason to evade you and your picks...
Answer the questions that have been presented to you in other posts...
How many names have you gone by..
Are you using DaMans plays or anyone elses...
When records go bad---do you Invent another co...
Who is your Webmaster---fire him--you and he aren't remotely close--or get your stories straight before printing time...
Really getting Pathetic Jimmy...kaptLast edited by Kaptain; 06-15-2005, 08:50 AM.
Don't make me go Cajun on your Ass!
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Even professional cappers can't hit more than 6 out of 10 in the long run. They have to lie to keep people on board. Jim Feist was the worst experience of my life... right when i thought I was a full paid customer i needed another grand for that nights "special total". Screw these fools and their fake namesGreat Day To Win
MLB 2008 (19-23-1) +3.0 units
NBA 08-09 (10-7) + 1.59 units
GOY (4-1)
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KMAN
I dont think he is going to answer you...he ignored my other reply back about the service named Best Damn Sports Service....I thought someone said, or was it him, that this was his previous Service....Now both Wiseguyunlimited and Best Damn Sports is posting plays at this monitor allcappers....
I am not here to try and cause more shit, but these Clowns Emailed me, after I have been running my promos at Bettorschat in the CBB season....He asked me if I wanted to buy in with them on a Website and that I should trust them cause he is honest and that he will send me my cut of the profits whenever they come in...He even stated something like he paid for over a million Email addresses to advertise to as well...Oh and that he was going to pay for any of his clients losses that they get...should they lose following his plays, as he stated he will not...This guy was in fucking dreamland of high on drugs or something. ....
Of course I said "HELL NO", in a nice way....Pay for your clients losses..Hmmm, now that has got to be the best Marketing Scam I have heard yet...I worked hard to build up my clientel and the credibility I have as a Sports Handicapper on these forums which I have been members of some for going on 3 years now...and that is why this guy from Best Damn Sports wanted me to come in with him....To which again, I said "HELL NO!" to the second time he asked me.
Whats Fishy about this (Best Damn Sport Service) at allcappers....is this service posts plays but doesnt list a contact info, and I have an idea as to why they dont...Doesnt make sense to use a monitor if your not going to sell your shit...and it also doesnt make sense to not list a contact info, unless this Service Name is just an front Alias Service of someone's, who is posting under it in hopes of trying to build up a winning record...for which they then can market this service along with their others....or which they will use as a standby...to jump on incase something happens to the other service like, being exposed or maybe going on a terrible losing streak which cant be salvaged and would be easier to start a NEW ONE instead..
Of course, the first thing you will see this NEW SERVICE come out and state is that they are Legit and that are at this monitoring site to which they have won their clients all these Units...Unknown to others is that this New Service was just a fake one which someone was posting, probably ML games in FB or BB or on high ML MLB games inorder to get a Good Record to show and sell...Dont be fooled as this record could of been easily manufactured using certain Very High Vig Games or ML bets in other sports, but which no one will know because these monitoring site dont show what was played only the records and units won....and that is another thing where these MONITORING SITES become worthless, imo to use as a means to claim any sort of legitamacy....Hell one could leave for awhile and start posting these High Vig Games which has a good probability of winning but, of course is not a good betting situation for anyone...ie, ML -320 to 100....Then after doing this for awhile and changing their UNIT amounts to a higher one then posted them at these Monitoring Sites...one could rebuild his record up and them come back and state that he took a break or something like that and then claim that he has won his clients this much or that he went on a winning streak winning this much....which then he would use this monitoring site to show that he is telling the truth....Bullshit!...and you better watch out Gang....The best monitors are your clients.
These Scammers like Best Damn Sports is getting smarter and more creative and alittle more Slicker, huh....Doesnt it seem so suspicious that all of a sudden we have so much Monitoring Sites popping up all over the place...Makes you wonder who is behind these sites...or is that these sites who charge a fee just are greedy and look the other way to what their paying members do?...I think so.....Plus, if you look at how many members or Services are actually using them...you will see that many have posted a few times at these sites...and then they stop all of a sudden....Why? Hmmm, I guess their Alias Service didnt hit that Hot Streak or didnt win those High Vig Games they needed to win to manufacture a good record to Tout it to others.....Because of this, they probably just dumped them like a bad habit...and again found it easier to create another one and start all over again...Go look at these Monitoring sites, they look like a graveyard full of Dead Alias Services Names....LOL...Plus they are also full of other Services ..Alias Services..
And this is one reason why Services will not use their own Service names to market their Service....I mean, if your KooKoo4CocoPops Sports....then why dont you sign up as KooKoo4CocoPops Sports?Last edited by Co-Captain; 06-15-2005, 11:50 PM.
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Jimmy, I really feel that this site has been very good to you .. You have gotten complete exposure and free advertising ... and that was after you lied to everyone and told them you were not a service ... the least you can do is answer questions when they are asked ... especially from our very respected members here .. you see you have to understand something .. nothing is more important around here than our members ... Stop avoiding them ... It will not work ...
We need you to answer post #22 ... This is really getting old .... lets clear the air here and be truthful ...
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Pleading the 5th---is my answer...nothing has changed---you certainly won't---you will get no more respect from me young man...
you made you bed -- lie in it...That word lie---used here--is another version of the one you know so well...
Jimmy---the world (people) will give you the benefit of the doubt just so many times...
I've used mine all up...Wait--lets hear the "Days of Our Lives"---"As the World Turns"--saga of why you haven't answered...I know---someone in family Ill---car problems--your WebMaster commited suicide after he realized his drastic errors...
Give us all a break Jimmy---go somewhere else (Carnival maybe) where your Barking talents can be utilized...
WE'RE TOO SMART HERE....quit insulting our intellect....Gave you every chance, and you BLEW EM ALL....
Good luck to ya on your next projected site (Victims)...kaptLast edited by Kaptain; 06-16-2005, 05:27 PM.
Don't make me go Cajun on your Ass!
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To KMANN,
No, we don't steal plays. I have posted as different names at different sites, but I don't advertise my service. I am not going to scam anyone. I have been truthful about the service part. I explained that I did once have another company, and went to Wiseguys Unlimited, where I WILL stay. My webmaster is Kyle, and I talked him about the unit mess up today. I guess it is just as much my fault as his, as I never specified bet 3, or bet to win 3. It will be changed, but you should know that he didn't do that to make us look better. It actually hurt us a couple nights ago as I came up with +3.65, and he came up with +2.5.winningsportsbets.com we are up 140.17 units
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Originally posted by $Jimmy$To KMANN,
No, we don't steal plays. I have posted as different names at different sites, but I don't advertise my service. I am not going to scam anyone. I have been truthful about the service part. I explained that I did once have another company, and went to Wiseguys Unlimited, where I WILL stay. My webmaster is Kyle, and I talked him about the unit mess up today. I guess it is just as much my fault as his, as I never specified bet 3, or bet to win 3. It will be changed, but you should know that he didn't do that to make us look better. It actually hurt us a couple nights ago as I came up with +3.65, and he came up with +2.5.
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