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**$Jimmy$** · 04-23-2005, 02:18 AM

I was thinking of getting a contest started up where you can make your selections, and hide them until the game is tipped off. It will document how we did, units won, etc. I dont want to go crazy with units, say your down a few units, so you put a bunch of units on a game to get back ahead. It needs to be done just like we do now, just see who ends up at the top. I am sure BC will approve if we use a contest, but it cannot have forums in it of course. Is there any you like off the top of your head.

**Buzz** · 04-23-2005, 02:35 AM

The only way to do it is in the service section posting plays before they tip for everyone to see. There are places to do contest but that would defeat the purpose and I don't think BC wants other sites promoted on his forum.

Like I said, you can set all the rules as far as Units, lines, duration of contest, grading etc...If you are worried about posting your plays on the board because of your clients I am not sure how to fix that issue. I guess if someone like Spark agrees you can email him and I and post after the tip if he agrees but I don't want to drag him into this as he does enough for the board. I will post mine early. IMO the point would be for visitors to this service area to see the plays early and ride someone if they get hot or fade if they think someone will stay cold. The board rules also state you have to post plays so I don't think BC wants clutter without plays in here. I know how much that bugs me as well as other services

Buzz

**$Jimmy$** · 04-23-2005, 02:43 AM

Thats is what Im worried about. If I post the plays here, it would be screwing the people that signed up. Why pay if I post them for free. Also, posting here for the NBA playoffs would do us no good. At the end of the season when we are done with the contest, no one is going to sign up for a baseball package because we are hot in the NBA. The only thing I can do is start a documented contest, or post here right when the game tips.

**Buzz** · 04-23-2005, 03:05 AM

Well the contest for me is not about trying to get clients from BC, at least not for the NBA Playoffs. I don't even post here everday anymore. You posted this as a challange. If you can't make it work for you I understand and we can just drop it. If you want to get into some online season long contest that documents daily you can email me and I will let you know where that is, but you will not get that from the free monitors you are using.

To be honest with you Jimmy, most of my clients do not come from message boards. Most of my clients are guys that come across my site after watching a monitor and give me a try or it's from word of mouth from current clients. I really don't think they will care if I post for a short period. I give long term loyal clinets free periods of time all the time anyway that they appreciate. People that become familar with me know I don't do this to screw anyone. If one of my clients found this and really had a problem with it I would take care of them in some form. Bottom line is if I get hot during the playoffs my clients will not care because they will be winning. Most people on boards don't use a service anyway but if they are looking for a little help in the future I want them to remember my name.

If you can figure something out let me know before tip Saturday

**$Jimmy$** · 04-23-2005, 03:09 AM

Buzz, I would love nothing more than a challenge. I just cannot post my plays before gametime. Too many people have signed up for the basketball package for me to just give it free. It would be throwing the 34-8 run down the drain. If we can do a documented contest, then Im all in. Also, I have to talk to the other guys to see if its Ok to post them for free for a contest. Im guessing it will be a No, but I will let you know. I also sent an email to see if this contest is ok before we decide to do anything.

**$Jimmy$** · 04-23-2005, 03:12 AM

Buzz, sending you an email.

**$Jimmy$** · 04-23-2005, 03:16 AM

Buzz, email me at paidtowin4u@yaho*.com. Dont have your email address, just your website. I will answer it early in the morning.

**Buzz** · 04-23-2005, 03:30 AM

Jimmy no worries, this sounds like more trouble than it is worth for you. No need for me to email you. I want all discussions public because as soon as people think we are emailing back and forth it puts everything in question even though no money is involved. I understand your client issue and am aware that you need to be sensitive to that. I just did not pick that up when I read your contest posting. I knew if I responded I would have to post the plays and live with it good or bad.

You are on a great run so good luck to you and your clients with the playoffs.

Buzz

**$Jimmy$** · 04-23-2005, 03:38 AM

Buzz, GL to you. You have more balls than any other service on here. Most people would have ran from the challenge with all the success we have been having. I give you props man. One thing I dont want is pissed off clients. I do my best to keep them happy. I should have put in the challenge a documented contest where picks are hidden. I hope you, or no one else thinks Im backing down, because I wouldn't, and Im not. I just cannot post them before gametime. GL on your service, and wish you many winning years to come.

**Kaptain** · 04-23-2005, 07:02 AM

Buzz---you are a class act, and very considerate of otheres (BC).....

I like your logic and un selfishness....Best of luck to ya....the Kapt

PS---why don't you guys throw up a freebie every day...Keep your lines shown, from where, and update your own record....Break it into 1/2s...To the All Star break, and after....Pick your best play, one of your best, or whatever one you think it takes to beat the other...

Jimmy, if you're so hot, record so good, you shouldn't have any problem with just your freebies winning...Yeh yeh, I know, not fair to your thousands of clients who depend on you...Did you ever mail BC and ask him if a contest on here is OK, and by what rules...What does BC and or Members get from this...

You're a little too onesided with self admiration/self fulfillment for me....You have a nice day and and even better life...the Kapt

**TonyCarusoSpts** · 04-23-2005, 08:06 AM

Lets make it 3 I'm in I'll put my plays here.

**broke$** · 04-23-2005, 09:15 AM

Pissing of Clients

Originally posted by $Jimmy$

Buzz, GL to you. You have more balls than any other service on here. Most people would have ran from the challenge with all the success we have been having. I give you props man. One thing I dont want is pissed off clients. I do my best to keep them happy. I should have put in the challenge a documented contest where picks are hidden. I hope you, or no one else thinks Im backing down, because I wouldn't, and Im not. I just cannot post them before gametime. GL on your service, and wish you many winning years to come.

Jimmy talking about pissing off clients. How come you didn't send me any plays lastnight? I bought your mlb weekly package and I did not recieve any plays lastnight. I emailed a couple of times and NO Response.

**Sportbook Guru** · 04-23-2005, 10:17 AM

Hey Jimmy and Buzz,

I just saw this and would like to jump in too!

SPORTBOOK GURU
www.Sportbookguru.com

**BigMike** · 04-23-2005, 10:21 AM

Hahahaa, looks like everybody wants in except the big mouth that started this thing! GL guys!

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