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**mark30** · 10-11-2004, 09:48 AM

Great job

Nice picks on New Mexico State and SF.
Keep it up!

**Warrior** · 10-11-2004, 11:22 AM

Thanks Mark...

dave

**meteor** · 10-11-2004, 12:08 PM

man we pulled that san fran game out of our ass. i left for thanksgiving dinner at 28-12 and nearly flipped when i got home and saw the 49ers won!

**Warrior** · 10-11-2004, 12:59 PM

Same here. Got in shower at 28-12 to go to work. But bad teams find ways to lose. Rattay had nearly 300 yards passing when the score was 28-12, and the niners had 28-19 edge in first downs in the game. Rattay finished up with nealry 400 yards passing. But all in all, yeah, there was an element of luck there. One failed 2-pointer and it's over.

It wasn't the blowout I expected, but I'm happy the game won. It makes up for any number of bad beats I've already suffered in this early season.

I've often said regarding watching games that I bet heavy action (heavy for me) on:

"Wake me up when it's over."

If I wake up and catch the final score, it's a win. For all I know San Fran dominated the game 28-0 going into the 4th quarter only to have the CARDS be the one to make a rally. Seattle game was a perfect example.

Wake me up when it's over...I'll take the win...

dave

**meteor** · 10-11-2004, 01:26 PM

that's true dave, but no matter how hard i try and do that i still find myself peeking at my computer to look at the score. it kinda goes both ways though...your team could be up 37-0 and you be stressing about it not knowing the score, but yes in this case it woulda been much better on the nerves (and on my baseball cap which i kept throwing against the wall)

bad teams do find a way to lose but the 49ers are also a very bad team, pulling such gems as a delay of game penalty on 3rd and 1 from the cardinal 14 yard line, a sack and a fumble on the cardinal 39 the first play after getting the ball back in great field position, and my personal favorite, fumbling on the cardinal 13 moving in for the go ahead score after an interception, punt return TD and having all the monetum on their side.

not to mention the 49er defense putting up virtually no resistance after both fumbles as AZ easily marched down the field for TDs on both occasions. this is a bad football team, but at the end of the day the money is in our account so that is all that matters. cheers

**Warrior** · 10-11-2004, 01:33 PM

Show me the Money...

I strongly disagree with one point, and that is that the 49ers are a very bad team. I definately do not believe they are a very bad team. They could be 4-1 right now believe it or not; with a better coach they would be a shoe in for 3-2 at the very least.

The 49ers will prove they are not a bad team this Sunday when they beat the New York Jets.

dave

**meteor** · 10-11-2004, 01:36 PM

ok i shouldn't have added the "very"..they're just bad

they do have a pretty good offense though and should improve as the season progresses. and it's true ericson or however you spell it is no good.

**Warrior** · 10-11-2004, 01:41 PM

Cardinals @ 49ERS

The San Francisco 49ers are a DOUBLE PLAY and my NFC WEST GAME OF THE YEAR. Prior to the beginning of the Season, critics agreed that the worst team in the NFL would come down to 2 teams: Arizona or San Francisco.

Let me point out the obvious first: Let's say that were true. Then what you have here is a battle of the 2 worst teams (and they know it). You have a 1-3 team on the road at the 0-4 team. Now, if the Cards win this game, it's official (or so the critics would have you believe): the 49ers are the WORST team in the league. That rationale alone would have me on the 49ers. But wait...there's more...

Newsflash: The 49ers are not even CLOSE to being the worst team in the league. Perhaps a solid 1/2 dozen or so could be named before them (statistically). Now, why in the world is this line ONLY 49ERS -1??? Why? I don't know. I really don't. To begin with, if these teams were evenly matched then the 49ers ought to be a 3-point favorite. Let's look at reality:

The 49ers are the BETTER TEAM with the BETTER QUARTERBACK and BETTER DEFENSE. They have displayed BETTER STATISTICS. What the heck? They oughta' be favored by 4-6 points here.

The Cardinal's close losses have only been close because of TURNOVERS. Otherwise, they have been manhandled on both sides of the ball except for their game last week versus the 'AINTS. Hey, every dog has it's day. And btw, that game was not a 34-10 ball game; it was 17-10 in real time but ENDED UP 34-10 late.

Trust me on this one folks: THE 49ERS WIN THIS GAME GOING AWAY. But if not, we'll take the win anyway since we don't have to lay any points! Let's look at some numbers...

Both teams have faced the Rams, Falcons, and Saints. In addition the Cards faced the Pats while the 49ers faced the Seahawks. With the Pats and Seahawks being very evenly matched, it's safe to say the 49ers and Cards have faced virtually identical schedules.

If we only went with the points for and points against, then, yes, the Cards would look better. But consider that:

a.) The 49ers pf/pa is skewed by their blowout loss to Seattle 34-0; a score that the Cards could very easily have suffered to the Pats on a worse day.

b.) The Cards pf/pa is skewed by their blowout WIN versus the Saints, another misleading score.

Let's look at yardage. Remember, they both played virtually the identical teams...

Offensive Yardage Per Game: 49ERS 308, CARDS 259

Defensive Yardage Per Game: 49ERS 315, CARDS 346

The 49ers are a FULL 80 YARDS PER GAME BETTER THUS FAR. Better offensively, and better defensively. Of course, the better team does not alway win. Granted. But usually the better team does not win because they are in a "let down" role.

Are the 49ers in a "let down" role? No way. They are not even in a neutral role (in which case they would already be they play at such a rediculous line).

In fact, the 49ers, the BETTER TEAM, at a virtual PICK'EM PRICE, at HOME, are in a "bounce back" role.

The Niners opened the season losing by a mere 2 points against the 4-0 Falcons in a game they could have and should have won be it for being -1 in the TURNOVER CATEGORY. They covered that game.

In game two, San Fran litterally GAVE AWAY the game that was in the books on a FUMBLE. Losing to the Saints 27-30 due to being -2 in the TURNOVER CATEGORY. They covered in this game also.

In both of these games (game 1 and 2) the 49ers outyarded their opponents by +132 and +68 respectively.

Then came game three. Demorilized after giving away the game to the Saints, the 49ers played ON THE ROAD against arguably the BEST team in the NFC, the Seahawks. In addition, they caught the Seahawks boucing back from having been DOMINATED by the Bucs statistically. Okay, the 49ers collapsed as many college and pro teams do after they lose a game the way they did they previous week.

San Fran caved in to the Seahawks in the afforementioned setting, losing 34-0 while being outyarded by 199 yards and being -4 in the turnover category.

Then came week 4. Here was their chace to bounce back against the Rams. Now, if you watched this game, again, the 49ers had every opportunity to win. They were only outyarded by 28 yards but were -2 in the TURNOVER CATEGORY. A few bad calls didn't help either. In excusing their failure to bouce back in this game let's not forget that the Rams were in a major must win as well. It was a game that could've gone either way and both teams were in similar situations--someone had to lose.

Well, this week they do not find the Cards in a bounce back. In contrast, they find the Cards in a potential let down after their 34-10 trouncing of the Saints. Going into the Saint game, the Cards had been outrushed 111-366 in their prior two games. No wonder the Cards reponded by outrushing the Saints 211-41.

In a bit of irony, the 49ERS find themselves in the same situation THIS week as the CARDS were in LAST WEEK. San Fran has been outrushed 106-291 in their last 2 games and will look to rebound in that category this week.

Hypothetically, if the CARDINALS can crush the SAINTS (a better team) 34-10, what do you think the 49ERS will do to the CARDINALS (a worse team)?

As if all that were not enough, consider the probablilty that the Cards are in a Statiscal let down role:

In games one and two Arizona's Net Yardage was -188 and -210 yards. In games 3 and 4 their Net Yardage was -43 and +94. Yeah, let down city.

And finally, to top it all off: ANYTIME A TEAM IS MINUS IN THE TURNOVER CATEGORY FOR 4 CONSECUTIVE WEEKS, IT IS AN AUTOMATIC "PLAY ON". Therefore, we will PLAY ON San Francisco.

RECAP:

You have the Better team at home in a bounce back role versus the worse team on the road in a let down role; the turnovers are projected to go your way as well as a severe imbalance in rushing yardage. Sounds like you oughta' be laying a Touchdown at the very least, right?. How about 49ERS -1.

Expect the San Francisco 49ers to completely and utterly DOMINATE this matchup in EVERY WAY. First Downs, Rushing Yardage, Passing Yardage, and TURNOVERS. Expect the 49ers to amass 400> Total Yards and hold the Cardinals to LESS THAN 200. Expect the 49ers to have ATLEAST FOUR Turnovers go their way and end up +3 or more in the Turnover Category. Expect the 49ers to Outrush the Cards by atleast 70-80 yards or more. But most of all, expect the 49ers to SCORE MORE POINTS...a LOT more...

Cards 7
49ERS 41 (DOUBLE PLAY)

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