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  • #31
    TY

    If the stats you give are a true reflection of what you offer your clients and the system is based upon the information you mentioned above I must agree I would not be willing to give it out for free. You must understand a ROI that you claim for your clients is no the norm in this business, so it is understandable why people would question the validity of your claims. I have been around this business for 20+ years and transparency is not something you find in this business. Just My 2 Cents
    Wash. D.C. 8 sq. miles surrounded by REALITY

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    • #32
      Ty

      Never, have I claimed to be an expert of Ty Gatson and I never will. All I was stating was your free play record and this started off a war of words between us. You are right. I have never met you, talked to you, or done business with you. I have no idea what kind of man you are except from posts here. I have some questions that you still have not answered at all. Don't take these as insults or attacks because then you just rant about fags and assbags. I am not interested in getting into a war of childish words with you.

      Why would any sportsbook advertise on a site where they know the plays being sold there are hitting at such a high percentage?

      If you have scouts with teams than why are you afraid of someone cracking your systems? Are they not really scouts in the sense of the word?

      If the people you claim that signed up with you from here don't come here(anymore) then why claim to have 34 clients from bettorschat?

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      • #33
        Savage1.... and others

        Savage1........they are scouts in the sense that they are stationed all over the country.... I have others who obtain the knowledge of the certain trends, angles, etc.........I do not call them scouts.....they are not one in the same.....my scouts are my scouts period......

        gr8life........ the stats are not a reflection of what we give our clients, we do not divulge OUR reasons for using a Code Zebra to any client, I do not divulge the transparency of any of our games, to any of our clients just the side we are using, the amount to bet, and they go from there. In otherwords anyone who signs up with our code zebra club is not giving full knowlegde of the reasoning for the play, the side, the amount, talk to you later VERY quick on and off the phone.

        Tony Vegas....sportsbooks advertise with proven commodities, my website is a proven commodity, just because someone goes to my site, gets free games daily, does not mean they are wagering at any of the advertised sportsbooks (2) on my site. I for one deal with Payoffs plus, milllionaire, playerstime, el grande, caesars palace, bellagio, las vegas hilton, just to name a few. I would never, ever commit all my betting to one source, that would be ludicrous, no matter how much I like a game I still shop for the best line or odds. They advertise on my site because they get clients from it, and they are not necessarily MY PAID clients. And as I said before they pay me up front monthly for the advertisements, I DO NOT receive anything from them as a payoff or kickback

        Question 2: The scouts are scouts they do their job and I would not want to expose or have them exposed for dealing with a sports advice company, I pay them, they get paid from others, but THEY STILL do not make the determination of a code zebra status or VIP or free game, they simply provide the scouting reports for MY determination, they HAVE NO IDEA of my system, only what is required by them daily in the form of information I need from them. They are really scouts in the sense of the word, and basically none of thier information would be understandable to anyone except to a team, owner, head coach, manager or ME etc etc

        Question 3; I have clients I see here everyday, the others I never see, I had 23 people today sign up for my code zebra club for the 3 play deal, I only know of one from bettorschat because he stated he got me from here, and according to his screen name he has been at BETTORSCHAT for quite a while, there may have been more but only one said he saw me on bettorschat. I do know I have 4 people from the past two weeks, from bettorschat, that are undefeated with me still. I will not divulge their names as my agreement with them is to not divulge my information anywhere for anyone for free or for any price.

        questions answered

        TG

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        • #34
          The Record&Prices

          Football 2004-2005 NFL/College Football Package-$25,000.00 Complete

          NBA Basketball Code Zebra 2003-2004 Season-$25,000.00 Complete

          NCAA Basketball Code Zebra 2004-2005 Season $17,500.00 Complete

          Major League Baseball Code Zebra 2004 Season- $7,500 complete 29-2 in baseball

          Ladies & Gentlemen, I have been in this business for over 20 years, I or my business has never stated or tried to market my services with such farces as this.
          our business supports 25-50 clients a year depending on the sports cycle.
          how someone could pay this amount for any of his services is beyond me.
          Mr Gaston must be the best promoter even better than Don King & Wayne Root!
          3 Plays for 500.00 Only 166.66 cents a play! what a Steal & if he loses, he makes the loss of the Play back to his clients.
          I am a enjoyer of this site with the fine people on this site & what it offers to services& individuals!
          My 2 cents worth
          Last edited by SportzWinners; 04-28-2004, 11:12 PM.

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          • #35
            Ok Ty,
            Now to take this a step further, and again just because many of us are curious as to what the role of your scouts are and how they are employed, let me ask you this:
            1) Could you give us an example of late or if you don't want to use an actual instance, tell us specifically how a scout or scouts have given you information(and what the information is or might be ) that would influence your making a pick on a game.
            2) Also, please state if your scouts are stationed in a particular city or team for an entire season, or perhaps if they travel with the teams or whether they just go to scout CERTAIN games or under certain conditions.
            3) Also, are your scouts paid and used exclusively by you or are they employed by others services besides you and paid by these other services also?
            4) Also, in your opinion what percentage of other services do in fact employ scouts in the terms which you have defined them.
            Again above questions are not meant to trick but are I think legitimate questions which any prospective customer would like to know.
            If you or anyone feels any question above are out of line, please state why. and/or add your own questions or comments to what I have requested.
            I think everyone at this point would like to see some civility return to this thread.

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            • #36
              sportswinner and savage 1

              Sportswinner.....
              You have been in this business for 20 years? What's your name? I don't hide my identity, I have been in this business since 1985 and have been on national TV since 1985. I was on TV years ago with Mike Warren and Jimmy the Greek, my bio shows all the shows I have been on at tygaston.com! Its funny how you claim your business have never tried to market your services with such farces as this! Ha! Funny your in Key West, thats where the biggest scams in the industry are, people who take peoples money and claim they are gonna put it in an offshore etc etc. With the likes of Dan the Man WIlson, AL Reno and the such, I recommend to all NEVER do business with anyone in Florida! You claim you have 25-50 clients a year, just goes to show you I have 26 people sign up yesterday and they all went 2-0 with my $500 special with one more game left on the special! If your in this business and can't imagine someone paying YOU that much money, you obviously don't have a clue, don't have the information, and/or the sales ability! I can already tell that by your 25-50 clients per year! Your at a complete different level than my company, and you been at it for 20 years, and still ain't figured out5 the GAME!
              I was in this business long before Wayne Root even worked for Feist! Wayne Root is a ....bag, and a thief, he borrows money from people every year to put his so called show up on the airwaves. Difference between me and Root is that I don't screw people, I don't have to look behind my shoulder for people who lended me money and never got paid back, like Root does! He relocated to Santa Monica California (on someone elses money) and opened his business and before even one football season was GONE! I don't need to borrow money from people I have my own! There is no comparison between me and Root, except we do the same business! Your 2 cents wasnt worth the time you took to write it!

              Savage1......I have explained my scouts duties several times, morale, statistics, weather, insight on injuries, who is hurt, who aint, and to what extent of the injuries. As well as daily reports of the teams involved in the series they cover, stats last game, last 3 games, last 5 games, last 10 games, season to date, who's hitting, who aint, who hits better against certain pitchers, starting lineups and why, who is scheduled to relieve and in what situation etc etc. Too many things to mention beyond the above certain things. And that is just baseball, basketball is another deal. My scouts are regional, no comment on travel and per diem or teams they cover. I pay my scouts, more than they make normally with thier other job. I don't know of any other company (out of 2,400 companies) that do what I do. I would say 0% of the other services. I think this thread has been civil all in all. If you would like to speak to me personally call me anytime at 1-800-362-3755 and or email me at [email protected]

              TG

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              • #37
                Thanks again Ty for clarification and comments, and as stated before, no matter what, at least we agree re: what Wayne Root is all about.

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                • #38
                  In ty's defense, anyone can put a sportsbook banner on a website.copy and paste. I was however surprised when I got into this business that many sportsbooks offer a few different types of commission. One of them being % of loss from clients. So kickbacks do exist from sports services, but you don't know which ones have that type of commision or a flat rate for bringing clients. Most offshore books are so huge they don't even care about how much money clients of the great ty gaston are making.

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                  • #39
                    if u use umpires and ref's. are u fixing these games?
                    Success will be the best revenge

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                    • #40
                      wallstreet

                      Originally posted by wallstreet
                      Tony,

                      Good work, I am sure that Mr.Gaston would accept nothing less than an honest record for his plays on this site.

                      Too bad you arent doing that for the other chumps that post. I bet the free record for most of the morons here is awful.
                      What a great idea.

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                      • #41
                        Frank,

                        You know what would happen..

                        There would be a mass exodous for some of the kiddos here and we would be down to 5 services..hahahaha

                        How about this..if people were interested, we could be assigned a day or two a week, keep a thread like they do here and the person is responsible for keeping track on X day..

                        So say-

                        I would take Mon and Thu

                        You take Tue and Fri

                        Tony takes Wed and Sat

                        Savage takes Sun

                        Or whatever. I think we have 5 people who would chip in and be responsible..

                        What do people think?

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                        • #42
                          Savage your questions and Ty's answers gave me some insight into this subject. Savage you had excellent questions and Ty I guess you answered them as well as you could w/o giving us too much info. As I stated before I cannot stand in judgement because I have never been a client of Ty Gaston Sports. And I agree it's sometimes hard to accept the validity of some claims made in this business. Frank/Wall it would be a good idea if the records were posted for all the people that post plays. Savage I can't get over Charlie's long long long long posts everyday.LOL
                          Wash. D.C. 8 sq. miles surrounded by REALITY

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                          • #43
                            Wallstreet

                            Count me in to help. I will take a couple day(s), whatever it takes
                            Wash. D.C. 8 sq. miles surrounded by REALITY

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                            • #44
                              Go for it

                              I have asked a long time ago, for someone to keep everyones records and no one steps up to do it. I am all for it, set a start date and lets keep track, I would enjoy it. And like someone else posted in this thread, after a week or two all but 5 would still post, but I say, I bet after some people dissappear new names will appear under the same IP as the ones that dissappeared. It happens with all those monitoring services, a sports service loses, quits posting and comes back as a different company. Ty Gaston has been Ty Gaston since day 1, BOTTOM LINE
                              I will be here for the long haul and also a pat on the back for KC and the Lakers yesterday C/Z's. Oooorah

                              TG

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                              • #45
                                I've noticed you've patted yourself on the back for KC and the Lakers but no mention of the VIP play posted here that lost on the Lakers over.

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