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**Ty Gaston** · 04-14-2004, 03:36 PM

No code zebra today

No i dont have a code zebra play today this is a regular free comp post
ty gaston

**mvpwins** · 04-14-2004, 04:11 PM

Damn

This quote taken from TY's post 04/13 at 2:39pm

"I will DEFINITELY Have a replacement Code Zebra on Wednesday for those that followed me and lost the Seattle game! I apologioze for the loss, but still stand by the call."

Ty Gaston

I was hoping Ty would have stood by his word and posted a Code Zebra play as promised, because we were ready to release the opposite side of his Code Zebra as our 1,000 Star "CODE GIRAFFE" Play of the Year.........LOL

**Tony Vegas** · 04-14-2004, 04:14 PM

Re: Damn

Originally posted by mvpwins

I was hoping Ty would have stood by his word and posted a Code Zebra play as promised, because we were ready to release the opposite side of his Code Zebra as our 1,000 Star "CODE GIRAFFE" Play of the Year.........LOL

**Ty Gaston** · 04-15-2004, 01:35 PM

MVP WINS YEAH RIGHT?

MVPWINS;
your biting off more than you can chew when you attempt to bash me?

Just look at your posts the last 2 weeks, c'mon dude, get a life, and your trying to bash me?

36 wins and 21 losses my last 57 posts, 63.1% on free posted plays!

You need to concentrate on what your doing as your picks are horrendous, and that's the free ones! You get on here and try to bash me, yet your speaking out of your ass with your free (LOSING) comp plays everyday. Pick on someone else with your Code Giraffe bullshit. My Code Zebra plays are 90-22 on the season, records are updated daily at tygaston.com where my site gets over 30,000 hits per day

Don't step up to the plate, if you can't hit it out JERKBAIT!

**mvpwins** · 04-15-2004, 01:58 PM

MVP steps up to the plate....will TY????

Yes TY, I did bash YOU and I was referring to you PROMISING everyone a CODE ZEBRA PLAY POST here yesterday.......and NOT coming thru as a Man of your word!!!!

90-22 (80.35%)......virtually IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!! and you have no way to verify that so called record......talk about talking out your A**

We say what we will do.....and here are a few of our results to show how we are......

We are 22-13 (62.85%) overall for + $815 in the past 5 Days

We are 27-14 (65.83%) in NHL for + $1,120 in APRIL!!........#2 rank overall in NHL and Monitored at: www.pstmonitor.com

ARE YOU MONITORED??????........I didn't think so!!!!

We have given out 4-0 in FREE PLAYS the past 4 days in this Forum!

Do you put your plays on here for everyone to see at game time???? Hmmmmmmm .......I didn't think so!!!

We can and will step to the plate TY and we will hit one out of the park any day of the week against you!!!

How's this for a challenge TY......We will post our Premium and Free plays daily here at 7:30pm everyday for 7 days and show you our record straight up against yours.....Are you up for it?? Will you post yours?????? I doubt it , because you never take anyone's challenge in here and just continue to talk out your A** and never back it up!!!

MVP WINS!

**Ty Gaston** · 04-15-2004, 02:42 PM

MVP WINS, I don't think so!

MVPWINS;
you started it, no problem!

I stated I would have a replacement game for the Code Zebra game I lost, it's not a question of me backing down from my word, My Code Zebra plays are the best plays from my company, if I don't have one, I don't have one, I don't make one up just for the sake of making one up! I could have easily said play Portland as a Code Zebra play, I DIDN'T, it wasn't! If you go to my website tygaston.com you will see I didn't have a Code Zebra game in the NBA or MLB on Wednesday! I don't just pull games out of my ass for the sake of saying it is Code Zebra status.

Now let's talk about you MVPWINS! 164-162 in March 2004, thats documented by yourself at your website! 326 plays in a month? Doesn't that calculate to 11 plays per day? I couldn't imagine giving out 11 plays in a single day if my life depended on it! Let alone average that for a month! Yeah you charge $10 bucks for your premium plays but if someone spends 10 bucks a day for 30 days, thats $300 bucks right? And in March they went 164-162 overall, WOW am I frickin impressed! I bet you have people standing in line for the $10 plays?

Me and you are two different leagues, your still in the minors, I've been in the Majors since 1985! Someday when you do FIGURE it out, you will understand this GAME is not a crapshoot.

My free plays here at bettorschat 36-21 last 57 games 63.1% are higher percentage plays than your 22-13 62% the past 5 days, but when I GO BACK and see all your posts the past 2 weeks, you are 1, ONE, UNO, SINGLE, game over .500 and those are facts of what YOU POST! You brag your 65% in hockey? WOW Good job, but also mention your 17-19 in the NBA and 15-16, in MLB with your average plays being 150 favorites, your way behind the 8 ball MVP! And as your posted record on your website indicates, you have won 63 and lost 54 in April, thats 8 plays per day! Like I said earlier, when you figure out the GAME, you will see how I win consistently and you barely hit 50%!

My plays are monitored on my website, just as your plays are monitored on yours!

I would never post on this site or any others my VIP or CODE ZEBRA Games after they post or tip! My clients don't pay ten dollars for picks, my players are real players, who have been schooled in the GAME by myself! They understand why I don't post games on websites at tipoff, WE DON'T EXPOSE our strengths to the public, so they can follow and track our VIP and ZEBRA plays and try to figue out what exactly we do to get our games! My system is worth millions of dollars per year, the people who have come to me from this site, most don't even post anymore, because they understand the GAME now, where they didn't before they came to me.

They KNOW now that they are with me, that THEY can make money betting sports, being disciplined and waiting for the right game at the right time. An that includes not playing 8 to 11 games per day like your clients do. Once people come with me to purchase the VIP club, they are fully capable within a few months of having enough bankroll from their winnings to step up their plays and join the Code Zebra club!

You can step up to the plate all you want, your record speaks for itself and I wouldn't expose myself or my information sources yet for a mere challange from someone who can't hit 50%, and give out WAY too many games. You would be doing yourself a disfavor by taking on my 1 VIP or Code Zebra play per day, compared to your 8 to 11 games per day! I would never post mine, and I do not speak from the ass, as you say, I guess I just proved to all who read this, who truly speaks from the ass, as your records indicate!

In closing GOOD LUCK with your 11 plays for the day, me and my clients don't need the adrenaline action of 11 plays per day, we are here to make money and understand the GAME!

If you want to compare your 11 plays per day, against my free comp posts here daily you are more than able to keep track of those records, and reply at the end of the 7 days, how I went 6-1, or 5-2 or even 4-3 compared to your 34 wins and 32 losses or whatever record might be construed with your 8 to 11 plays per day against my one per day! Are you beginning to understand the GAME? I don't think so!

Ty Gaston
CEO
Pro Scouts Inc
Tygaston.com

**mvpwins** · 04-15-2004, 02:44 PM

I guess not!

I guess TY again is backing down from another challenge.......NO response and he was on here right after this post.

**mvpwins** · 04-15-2004, 03:00 PM

Put all your plays you put out daily......against all mine is the challenge......

How many games do you put out a day? 1,2,3, or 4 ????

We put out 2 or 3 plays per sport, sometimes 1 play per sport often playing between 5-7 toital plays a day!!!

Yes March sucked for us.....But we are not affraid to post it. And we had a great run in the NCAA and made lots of money for our customers who just played the tourney!!! So march overall sucked, yes.....But did you look at February..........+$1740 overall for the month....you don't talk about that do you........And we are off to another positive month again!

And as far as you not coming with a code Zebra play when you said you would......why would you say it if you didn't already have one in the Tank..........and as for that 90-22 record.......what a JOKE....

You still will not come up to anyone's challenge ever..........you and your 3-4 plays a day against our 5-7 plays a day....straight up......and you continue to back down....

And let's not talk about what we charge customers.......we refund our customers if we lose and we don't even make them pay in many cases they are doing PAY AFTER THEY WIN....... You charge like what $7500 a month for your plays.......That's the real rip off.

We back up what we say......and you don;t and you prove it again and again by backing down from another challenge.......

**Ty Gaston** · 04-15-2004, 03:01 PM

My resposne took some time....

MVP WINS;
my response took some time as I had to look at your horrible website, to get your posted records and then go back and check your posts here at bettorschat!

I noticed you endorse MVP Sportsbook? Funny they are on my website as a book to stay away from, Dalton WAGNER, the owner is a scumbag, I know because I dealt with him personally! I wouldn't put a penny in any of his associated sportsbooks or his 70 some odd websites of handicappers like you that are just scam artists!

Do you tell your clients who you refer to MVP Sportsbook, that you get a kickback from MVP Sportsbook? And that the 70 other sites owned by Dalton Wagner are just fronts, posing as handicappers to get people to go to MVP and place their money? WOW no wonder you charge only 10 bucks per day for a guy betting $500 per game and playing 8-11 games per day! It doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out you get his 10 bucks ooooooh wow, then you make 25-30% from Dalton Wagner at MVP sportsbook from the losses from the client!

Like I said before, you have to know the GAME to play the game! You guys are playing your own GAME and all it does is put money in your pockets and Dalton Wagners pockets. AM I LYING? How many of your clients play at MVP or one of his 5 other sportsbooks that he owns!

People BASH me here all the time, but I would never, ever stoop to the tactics your company or Dalton Wagner does to make a living. I can make my LIVING by doing what I do, knowing the GAME, (not yours) and making money for my clients, without having to get a kickback if they lose, because frankly, my clients don't lose!

At least I know in my HEART, I TRY and DO win for my clients, without getting kickbacks from sportsbooks and deceptive advertising, like you and Dalton are doing and have been doing!

Maybe you didnt see my post last week, but 14 guys in Florida got busted for doing the same thing you and Dalton are doing, only they did it with *** Global! Jeff Allen knows the consequences, he is doing 5 years in Federal Prison here in Las Vegas at Nellis Air Force base! It is only a matter of time before the FEDS find all you guys that are doing this!

Ty Gaston

**mvpwins** · 04-15-2004, 03:05 PM

Again still no reply to my challenge, and as for MVP sports book it is one of 3 places where we get lines from......so I put a link on our site......NO kickbacks at all here.........and again you avoid the challenge and must be saying NO to my challenge.......because I don't see a yes!

**Ty Gaston** · 04-15-2004, 03:08 PM

$7500 a rip off? C'mon

MVP WINS;
again you dont stop running your suck! My clients would prefer to be charged $7500 for the entire baseball season or $9500 for the NBA playoffs for Code Zebra plays that are 13-0 in baseball and 90-22 in NBA on the season. They make a hell of a lot more money, paying me for my services and dealing with whomever they want, compared to paying you guys $10 bucks and having to bet at MVP SPortsbook.

The bottom line is my clients win, and when they do lose I dont make any money from it as YOU guys at MVPWINS do with MVP Sportsbook!

And that's the bottom line!

**mvpwins** · 04-15-2004, 03:11 PM

Bottom line is You are not a man of your word as you prove here everyday.........and you will never take anyones challenge and never will because you will truely be exposed......I'm done with your stupidity and lack of guts to take a challenge...........LATER

**Ty Gaston** · 04-15-2004, 03:22 PM

yeah you gladly give back 10 bucks...

MVP;
enough is enough your burying yourself. First of all you give back thier 10 bucks if they lose or replace the games because you make more money from Dalton Wagner on the back end based on what the clients are betting at MVP SPORTSBOOK!

Anyone with computer intelligence can see that Dalton Wagner's company owns over 70 handicapping sites, all in different names, and all the websites appear to be the same, only different colors, all with referrals to MVP SPortsbook just as yours, and it is a proven fact Dalton WAGNER from MVP Sportsbook owns several other sportsbooks in Costa Rica, besides MVP!

Let me make an example, you get 25% lets say from Dalton and MVP as a kickback, you charge a guy $10 bucks for 8 plays and he bets $500 per game! He wins 3 loses 5, he is down $1250 for the day, you get your kickback from Dalton of 25% or $312.50, nice you just parlayed $10 bucks from a guy into $312.50 and you know he will come back the next day, to get slashed around again cause your not charging him another 10 bucks!

It's easy to see you and 69 other websites are all doing the same thing, and it is flat out WRONG, don't challenge me to go head to head with your SCUMBAG ass company, you are THIEVES, and the real scamdicappers, just as the boys in Florida, Dan the Man Wilson, National Sports Consultants, the Players Edge, and Nationwide Sports Inc. The only problem is they are in jail right now facing charges and you continue to get away with it.

These guys (mentioned) articles can be read by going to yahoo.com, click on news search, then type in gambling ring for the entire story!

Gamling and betting on games are one thing, what you guys do is another!

Ty Gaston

**mvpwins** · 04-15-2004, 03:31 PM

You are Truely amazing..........You avoid the challenge and choose to try to Bash Me and Try to say I am affiliated with some Dalton guy. We get no kick backs at all from anyone. Whatever....why talk about anything except what you were questioned on. I answer your questions.........you skate all around ours?

Why did you say you promise to have a Code Zebra play here if you didn't have one in mind?

Why won't you answer the challenge I posted to you.... simply yes or no?

I'll answer for you.....it is obvoiusly no, because you would have said Yes I will post ALL my plays daily for everyone on Bettors Chat to see at game time every day......BUT YOU STILL DON'T SAY YES I WILL TAKE YOUR CHALLENGE!!!!

You are a GUTLESS person who Talks out of his A**!!!!!

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