why do you guys even bother asking for independant records..you are never going to believe anyone anyway?
i have been alongside you condemning the scam artists in this forum with as much contempt as anybody...so if you are even going to question the accuracy,veracity of your fellow posters such as myself then why bother.
the record is accurate...i played them all myself.end of story.i don't remember the second loss on the san antonio maybe i missed it,but whether it is 19-1 or 18-2 or 17-2 whatever.
KCSTAR
SORRY I MUST HAVE YOU MIXED UP WITH SOMEONE ELSE THAT HAS POSTED WHEN THEY HAVE A WISEGUY AND THEN ASKS FOR SOMEONE TO PICK IT UP AND THEN SAYS HIS ACCOUNT IS OUT OF MONEY OR SOMETHING . AND WHEN I DONT HAVE ANY IN MY PAY PAL ACCOUNT EITHER BUT IM A CONFIRMED ACCOUNT AND I CAN DO IT AUTOMATICALLY WITHOUT HAVING ANY MONEY IN IT.
BUT IM SORRY I MUST HAVE GOT YOU MIXED UP WITH SOMEONE ELSE.
I APOLOGIZE TO YOU.
Meteor-it justs seems hard to believe that this service could really be 30-4 in these big plays, lose 3 straight big ones and also show nothing but mediocrity when his regular everyday plays are posted up here.
I certainly do believe you made money with him, but I still find it hard to believe that he actually did go 30-4 with his big plays.
Northcoast and others have been outstanding with big plays over the last few years, but they never claim 88%.
You made money great and that is all that matters I guess.
I personally though will have to see a better perormance in this service's everyday plays as well as 88% over a couple of years on big plays to believe the claims made.
Originally posted by BettorsChat What service are you associated with? You disagree with the fact that a service giving out fake plays doesn't hurt their reputation? Get real. Any service that worries about their plays getting post must be hard up. Most of the people that come to a site like this and get the play for free just want to know what they have & don't actually play it. Also most of the people if not all of them that get the play for free wouldn't buy it to begin with. And the number of people that actually get the play for free are few & far in between that a service like Alatex shouldn't be worried. Shit if the guy plays his own games he wouldn't need to sell plays now would he.
Exactly
"The people that have all the winners but still need your money"
Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.
but that is my point...if you aren't going to believe other posters on this board you aren't going to believe anyone so we might as well not even address this kinda stuff in this thread.
but that's just my opinion... i'm not trying to start an argument here..at the end of the day it doesn't matter to me either way.as for the last 3 picks getting clobbered that is what is surprising after the previous 20 or so that i witnessed were unbeleievable.maybe an evening out of the numbers.maybe the losses were a fluke or maybe the streak was a fluke..who knows.it is true that his normal plays from what i have witnessed have been pretty shit.the wise guy plays are system plays..maybe that is why there is such a difference. :cool:
Not a problem. Sorry if I sounded touchy on that subject, I just get pissed by those mugs myself =)
As far as this record talk goes, I won't sit here and say that he's god's gift or anything, but I have been playing him for awhile and maybe he got lucky, I don't know.
What I do know is that I'm an idiot and bet more on the last 3 losers so basically he could be 30-30 for all I care.
Originally posted by savage1 Meteor-it justs seems hard to believe that this service could really be 30-4 in these big plays, lose 3 straight big ones and also show nothing but mediocrity when his regular everyday plays are posted up here.
I certainly do believe you made money with him, but I still find it hard to believe that he actually did go 30-4 with his big plays.
Northcoast and others have been outstanding with big plays over the last few years, but they never claim 88%.
You made money great and that is all that matters I guess.
I personally though will have to see a better perormance in this service's everyday plays as well as 88% over a couple of years on big plays to believe the claims made.
Savage, I have to echo that point. I for one also find it hard to believe ANYONE can be 88% over an extended period. I'll gladly tell the world I was wrong if proven likewise.
Meteor I apologize if I'm wrong. I've only been here for a few months. In that short time I've seen many newbies come and go with outrageous claims of services. You'd swear they were the capper for the service. I'm not suggesting you are a newbie. You've been here longer than I
A few weeks ago we had a new member here screaming the same thing about another service. They were documented over 70% in all sports over the past 4 years blah blah blah. This member claimed to be a client of this service blah blah blah. This member was requesting services in the days before. I'm sorry if I'm with a service that is hitting over 70% I'm not wasting my time in this thread requesting the likes of Loser Larry, Big Al etc...
When I asked the member why he didn't post the selections of this great service if he was a client he replied 'gun shy'. Give me a break! Yeah and I was born freakin yesterday.
KC i think there are a lot of guys in your boat..somehow i actually layed off the first 2 losers after playing every winner before that cause i had bad feelings about them..i did jump on again for louisville though and got burned too..still unsure whether i will play the one tonight
You missed my point or perhaps I didn't make it clear. I am not argueing that it doesn't hurt the service to post wrong plays. I would agree that they miss out on the buzz and the potential to draw in new clients.
I am not affiliated with any service. My point in disagreement was that if the plays are not right it does not make sense to post them. You wrote and told sparks to keep posting the plays. I would say that if the wrong plays get posted the value of the right ones are diminished. No one knows which ones are correct.
To tell Sparks to keep posting up the plays even though they are wrong about 1/2 the time is in my opinion a disservice. People wanting to play a service or as you say "know what the guy is on"
are never sure that they are getting the right stuff.
If Sparks source on particular services is no good, then why post those particular services? I think this is what we disagree upon.
It's not that big of a deal if people know that they are getting the wrong play, but those that do play it only to find out it was the wrong play do suffer a lsoing bet that they may have not made of the wrong info wasn't posted.
If you want me to stop posting, I will. I'm not looking for a internet forum war, but rather was looking to benefit and contribute.
frank..it's all good..skepticism is healthy when determining service records..i only believe the ones i have seen with my own eyes personally.
at another big forum i am a member of we often get new posters come on touting some service that they claim to be a member of...the posts are so obvious and these guys are so dumb they actually think people can't figure out that they are the actual service trying to drum up business
anyways we'll call it at that.i will post the wise guy pick if i get my hands on it(i'm too cheap to buy it of course)
Since there are no plays put forward in the first 41 posts in this thread, I propose that BC start a new thread for the service selections for today.........
This thread can continue to be used for the useless discussion that it has been used for.
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