Something is not right with all this golf shit. 1st of all , not sure who started this golf post, either Art or Kosmo. Why would a service that wanted to stay small and not effect books lines post on this forum, knowing dam sure that their play will be posted or told to a lot of people. through-out various forums. Then you have the Host of the site saying don't post the play if you get it, what's with this? Then this golf guy is allowed to advertise his site without placing a pick, which goes against all service rules for this site. Why didn't we here about this golf guy last year, you want to know why, cause all this is, is a cash grab if you ask me, can anyone verify this golf guy record from last year, somewhere were we can all go and check out. heir is definitely something wrong with all this.
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You get 75% or more winners but lay money on moneyline golf plays taking many favorites, so your 1:1 unit wins may work out to be more like 60% to 65%.
Big smart money goes on golf.
My small stupid money goes down the drain.
What is that about the rich get richer?sigpic
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You don't come on a forum and post a free pick that happens to win and then ask people to pay for his plays, that's against everything this board stands for, helping one another, what don't you understant Art and Mcc, this is nothing but a fucking service cash grab.and you guys should be ashamed of yourselves for endorsing this. If your intention was to makre money on golf, you should of kept this to yourself, and not advertise for the golf guy or who ever he happens to be. :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire
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First, I've NEVER endorsed his service, nor any other...
Why get so upset about all of this? If you don't think he's legit....don't pay for it. If you think this is a cash grab service....don't pay for it. Like I said, let's watch his free picks and see how he does. Maybe he is as good as he says he is...maybe not. If you have any reservations, just leave it be.Good Luck!!
~MrCC
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I heard about Ron's service many weeks ago and contacted him about what he offers. I was most impressed, partucularly after he gave me a comp play that won. So I alerted others on this forum about it.
So now I have to take insults for my attempt to help others?
It doesn't pay to try to do some people a favor.sigpic
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I do not know if releasing plays to more people would change the golf lines or not, but there is another reason why this service should not be posted on this site.
There is a distinction between big services who ask for money and a small individual trying to make living. This site is about helping individuals make money and against the big casinos and big groups who suck our money. This is not about hurting an individual just so that you win some cash.
Is that right ??
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Originally posted by torontopaul
Why is this guy different than any other tout, he is selling a service like all other service providers, what are we suposed to do, be quiet because its a golf pick, give me a fucking break will you Art. He advertised and received alot of recognition with last weeks post, so he should be happy.
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Yes, its very simple I get the plays for myself but that's not my main concern.
Me and Ron are working on getting an article out in a major magazine that would give this site and my other sites some free advertising. In turn for free advertising it will bring more visitors to the site. More people signing up with my sponsors which in the end means that I can do more things for the site. I guess that's a bad thing huh?
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Hey Guys,
Cool it. No big problem to understand why I am being talked about. Winning. Let me explain the difference between your arguments that football is free and I should be too. First a question. Did you read anything....that's anything in Canada, about me. No. Same in this country.
Why. Because I operate with only a few players. And if those players want to get a "Match-up"pick in golf, that should be their business.
It is...really..it is their money to spend. They earned it. And I don't know what you would like them to do with their money, but if you want it spent on you, make an effort. Open a store, Paul. Sell Canadian ice.
"Melts in a minute and you've got real spring water." It's a joke Paul. Take a deep breath.
If you think this was the first site I was approached by, you are wrong . Monte was told of a very prominent site that was monitoring our plays in 2002, which was considering hiring me as their "golf handicapper" after the Superbowl and Basketball seasons were over. By then, we'd be at the "Masters". I just happen to like the idea of giving away a little of what I won. But some people can find fault in anything as we are seeing today.
So, even though I was going to write to tell you about the Match-up I selected in the Phoenix Open and the fact my site will have it posted for you tonight, you have now got me cornered and like a dog being kicked by a "stranger", I had to devote my time to biting back before you broke my ribs.
I would like to give everyone a pick every week. But what does that do to those who have been with me and are paying for the service? It screws them at the cost of my business...which really is small, one-to-one and very courteous....until cornered.
"Who is this guy anyway?" someone asked an hour ago. Well, "this guy" was honored by the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences with the "Emmy" for helping save 9 hostages in a bank holdup. "This guy" is responsible for 35 felons being in a state prison for rape, murder and other major crimes. "This guy" was a scratch (par) golfer until hit by a cab and thrown 30 feet, forcing me to find a way to feed my two little children my wife abandoned.
I've done that alone, a single Dad, for 13 years. My Dad lived in Vegas and I lost him too so I came out here to find work. I tried to do something I had knowledge of. Investigation, another word for research, and golf. I just happen to have a good year in 2002 after spending my savings on hundreds of formulas to find what elements to enter into winning matchups. I happen to also know what the formula is (through research) of Las Vegas Sports Consultants who sell all casino's the same match-up plays.
So, with my research and their formula, and some hard work 46-weeks a year, we have a neat little business going. But don't I couldn't make more money on the "other side." A VP for a major casiono has asked me to formulate their match-ups before they take a major hit. You can read about the casino's concerns in "Gaming Times." I brought attention to this earlier, but some people must have missed the article. You can find it in the January 14th - 20th edition. It is the "OLDEST GAMING NEWSPAPER IN THE USA". Go to www.gaming today and look for the article "Book it: There's green available in golf bets!"
If I can get the pick out to you rather than answer more questions which Monte tried to do, I'll be happy. But the books close soon and all my clients are down, so why not give it out.
Can I have the time to do that and not have to defend my character, my life and my business from out-of-country?
Best,
Bounty Hunter:pBounty Hunter
Division of Hunter News & Sports Group.
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BH no offense to you or what you have gone through in life.
This site got all the hits because of it publishing "Ill gotten" picks from paid services......
Who knows what kind of sob stories these other handicappers may or may not have.
Bottom line you don't mind publishing other service picks. If his golf picks are that amazing and someone who paid for it posts it here you will get all the new visitors that your system can handle.
BH-If your golf picks are so amazing year in and year out(I am not saying they aren't) you should never let anyone know them, you could make more money over time betting them yourself. Its like those amazing stock picking systems that produce 100 winners for every 5 losers, nobody is going to sell it to you, not even for a million dollars a year, yet you see ad's for them every day.
Anyone can go on amazing streaks, shit I am on a 15-1 college bball streak and I post every play for free.
If sportsbooks lost money year in and year out on golf, you wouldn't see lines for them....period!
I wish you luck BH keep up the good work, I hope you win every bet you make, but if you tell anyone about your plays, its going to get out.........especially if you sell it.
Stop trying to fight it BC/BH let everything take its course.
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"This site got all the hits because of it publishing "Ill gotten" picks from paid services......"
You sure about that? I marketed the sites this football season that brought increased traffic to the site. The traffic increased so much that the server that i'm on can't handle the traffic load thus the reason that i'm having to buy a new more powerful server.
I'm not fighting anything. I just don't appreciate it when a member of this site or any of my sites accuses me of doing something that i'm not.
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