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**savage1** · 11-02-2007, 10:06 AM

Deficit on 500 stars by those I follow who track his games is now MINUS $157000.
ps Monte's record show Charlie's record is better than this.
No matter who is right, the fact that Charlie is laughed at and scorned all over the internet because of his overall lousy record and his ways, should get across the main point, and that is all that counts!
Any service which has at least one 500 star 365 days a year and tells you to pound that play is an IRRESPONSIBLE SCAMDICAPPER, pure, plain and simple and even more so when he has a big LOSING record with them.
I defy ANYONE to show me why this statement is NOT true!

**BettorsChat** · 11-02-2007, 02:09 PM

Originally posted by savage1

Deficit on 500 stars by those I follow who track his games is now MINUS $157000.
ps Monte's record show Charlie's record is better than this.
No matter who is right, the fact that Charlie is laughed at and scorned all over the internet because of his overall lousy record and his ways, should get across the main point, and that is all that counts!
Any service which has at least one 500 star 365 days a year and tells you to pound that play is an IRRESPONSIBLE SCAMDICAPPER, pure, plain and simple and even more so when he has a big LOSING record with them.
I defy ANYONE to show me why this statement is NOT true!

I challenge you to show me the record is true!

Go back and get all of his plays for the last 6 months and document them.

You follow him around all the time on every site so you have the time.

I documented him for a little over 2 months and his 500* were 21-27-7 so theres no way his record at that site is correct on 500*

Did you ever think they make that shit up to stir more interest up in there site.

**10DimeBry** · 11-02-2007, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by BettorsChat

I documented him for a little over 2 months and his 500* were 21-27-7 so theres no way his record at that site is correct on 500*

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21-27-7 is pathetic man. Anyone paying a cent for someone who is under .500 is a fool.

**BettorsChat** · 11-02-2007, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by 10DimeBry

21-27-7 is pathetic man. Anyone paying a cent for someone who is under .500 is a fool.

Never said it was a good record, but when another site claims he's like 35-68 that means he would have had to have gone
14-41 when I didn't monitor him which I don't believe. Savage has the time to recap those games to prove it right or wrong. I can give him the dates that I followed the 500* plays and other plays so he can eliminate those dates.

**savage1** · 11-02-2007, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by BettorsChat

I challenge you to show me the record is true!

Go back and get all of his plays for the last 6 months and document them.

You follow him around all the time on every site so you have the time.

I documented him for a little over 2 months and his 500* were 21-27-7 so theres no way his record at that site is correct on 500*

Did you ever think they make that shit up to stir more interest up in there site.

I think their record is pretty close to the truth if not completely.
Even if it is a little better, it is relatively unimportant.
What is important and sorry if this offends you, but for me and the I would bet majority of people who see Charlie's scandalous daily posts, where he NEVER mentions his losses and does such other inexcusbale things as telling people to bey 500 stars(his biggest play) EVERY day of the year(find me someone who supports what this guy does every day), you are doing a disservice by even allowing Charlie to post here with his insulting lies and half truths.
In my opinion, it brings down the forum as a whole.
I invite others to post whether they agree with me or not!
Lets make it even simpler-in your mind and whatever criterion you use, is Charlie a scamdicapper, YES or NO?
My vote is and let me think a minute-its tough, but I finally came up with an answer-YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS and in fact one of the biggest scamdicappers in my following services for close to 30 years!

**BettorsChat** · 11-02-2007, 04:19 PM

Originally posted by savage1

I think their record is pretty close to the truth if not completely.
Even if it is a little better, it is relatively unimportant.
What is important and sorry if this offends you, but for me and the I would bet majority of people who see Charlie's scandalous daily posts, where he NEVER mentions his losses and does such other inexcusbale things as telling people to bey 500 stars(his biggest play) EVERY day of the year(find me someone who supports what this guy does every day), you are doing a disservice by even allowing Charlie to post here with his insulting lies and half truths.
In my opinion, it brings down the forum as a whole.
I invite others to post whether they agree with me or not!

I agree 500* on plays is too big of a difference from his other plays, but that's not what's at stake here. It's you consistently following him around every forum talking about a record that you won't prove. Like I said I've got a little over 2 months of records on him so you can eliminate those dates. You seem to have plenty of time to justify your record comments.

As far as a disservice that's your opinion. Maybe you should go to ever site and tell them the same thing. Like I told KB I've tried having a monitor site built for services since 2002 with no luck in succeeding.

**savage1** · 11-02-2007, 04:27 PM

Monte- I am not going to go back, and am not sure even if I could, I would be able to prove it.
All I can say is that when Charlie goes on a losing streak again, simply read what he says every day and decide if it is fit and appropriate-like telling folks to pound his nexty 500 star play!
By what the ultimating number of folks have said in the past on THIS forum from respected folks like Two Ton Tony for example, what Charlie does cannot be defended.
It is your forum and you can do what your wish, but if for example, you started a thread or asked everyone who has read Charlie's posts in the past what they think about him,, the Lock of Eternity is that the great majority would agree with my assessment of his as a SCAMDICAPPER extraordinaire!
Take a poll and lets see if I am right!

**BettorsChat** · 11-02-2007, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by savage1

Monte- I am not going to go back, and am not sure even if I could, I would be able to prove it.
All I can say is that when Charlie goes on a losing streak again, simply read what he says every day and decide if it is fit and appropriate-like telling folks to pound his nexty 500 star play!
By what the ultimating number of folks have said in the past on THIS forum from respected folks like Two Ton Tony for example, what Charlie does cannot be defended.
It is your forum and you can do what your wish, but if for example, you started a thread or asked everyone who has read Charlie's posts in the past what they think about him,, the Lock of Eternity is that the great majority would agree with my assessment of his as a SCAMDICAPPER extraordinaire!
Take a poll and lets see if I am right!

Savage like I said you won't prove it.

And like I said before that site is lying IMO.

Prove me wrong savage. I'll give you 2 months worth of plays documented.

You actually think he went 14-41 on 500* at some point? Give me a break. You can flip a coin and do better than that.

If you don't like the fact he's allowed to post then why look at it? And this section of the site is at the bottom of the site and the least viewed. So the act that he's being encouraged etc, is bullshit.

Now how about backing up your claims that you post on every single site.

**jmarty6969** · 11-02-2007, 04:31 PM

u can monitore me boss because rjeremy hasnt updated my records in a long time lmao

there might be a fireing of rjeremy soon

**BettorsChat** · 11-02-2007, 04:32 PM

Originally posted by jmarty6969

u can monitore me boss because rjeremy hasnt updated my records in a long time lmao

there might be a fireing of rjeremy soon

Buy him another man bag

**savage1** · 11-02-2007, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by BettorsChat

Savage like I said you won't prove it.

And like I said before that site is lying IMO.

Prove me wrong savage. I'll give you 2 months worth of plays documented.

You actually think he went 14-41 on 500* at some point? Give me a break. You can flip a coin and do better than that.

If you don't like the fact he's allowed to post then why look at it? And this section of the site is at the bottom of the site and the least viewed. So the act that he's being encouraged etc, is bullshit.

Now how about backing up your claims that you post on every single site.

If Charlie can go 11-2, which is in itself incredible, then something akin to 14-41 is not impossible.
Who would think that our old friend Phil Ste ele could go 0-11 one weekend and separately lose 10 totals in a row(and that IS VERIFIED).
Unlike Charlie who says nothing about losing days and streaks, I will from now on qualify my remarks by stating my sources state Charlie is down whatever, and I won't use the word verify.
If that is not acceptable to you and you continue to allow Charlie to say or in his case NOT to say anything which reflects upon him badly and continue to post 500 STAR PLAYS EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR, then I will simply conclude that your standards of what is acceptable for sponsors is not in accorance with mine of the great majority of people.

**BettorsChat** · 11-02-2007, 04:49 PM

Originally posted by savage1

If Charlie can go 11-2, which is in itself incredible, then something akin to 14-41 is not impossible.
Who would think that our old friend Phil Ste ele could go 0-11 one weekend and separately lose 10 totals in a row(and that IS VERIFIED).
Unlike Charlie who says nothing about losing days and streaks, I will from now on qualify my remarks by stating my sources state Charlie is down whatever, and I won't use the word verify.
If that is not acceptable to you and you continue to allow Charlie to say or in his case NOT to say anything which reflects upon him badly and continue to post 500 STAR PLAYS EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR, then I will simply conclude that your standards of what is acceptable for sponsors is not in accorance with mine of the great majority of people.

Like I said you won't prove it.

You think i'm taking charlies side when in reality i'm taking the truths side. I say the record is bullshit by a bullshit owner. I've tracked charlies comp plays for 5 years and he's a 50/50 capper sometimes better sometimes worse.

Now savage if you don't like the way things are ran here then you can always chose to leave. Or you can chose not to view this section. Choice is yours as is getting old arguing with you about the same shit and listening to you try and insult me.

**savage1** · 11-02-2007, 04:53 PM

Ps What do you think about Charlie STEALING comps and writeups(and that is verified) and not acknowledging it?
Or how about such crap as Charlie "speaking at the podium plays" or runners allegedly running to big bookmakers, locals and Offshores to bet all they can;does that qualify as bullshit also?
I am not insulting anyone;as a member I have an opinion about Charlie.
If majority rules, lets take a poll and see what the others think about Charlie and or what I have said.
If the majority of people think I am way off an unfair in my postings about Charlie, I won't do it anymore.
If people think that I am simply exposing him and perhaps rightfully simply giving him a taste of his own medicine, then let them say so or if I have gone too far, then say so.
ps Have you figured out why each day Charlie has a number of 10, 20 and 30 star plays but also has a 500 star each day to go along with it, and if so, do you think this is acceptable for say someone who is just starting out and doesn't know the ropes yet?

**BettorsChat** · 11-02-2007, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by savage1

Ps What do you think about Charlie STEALING comps and writeups(and that is verified) and not acknowledging it?
Or how about such crap as Charlie "speaking at the podium plays" or runners allegedly running to big bookmakers, locals and Offshores to bet all they can;does that qualify as bullshit also?

Keep avoiding the obvious savage

Why don't you go after that big service that you hate so much? Maybe too scared? They have way more customers and charge a lot more so I would think their screwing people more. Or would you disagree?

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