Contest Rules Questions/Clarification

[champs]

Just to follow up on a post under one of the results regarding the record for a week if a person missed. Looking back I see in the rules that it was stated that would take the record of the first seven line games road team. But looking at the first two weeks Baseball Nut gave the folks a 0-7 record. He also stated it in Week 2 standings thread.

http://www.bettorschat.com/forums/sh...threadid=15080

So I have given a 0-7 record for anyone who missed a week.

Next question that needs to be addressed is how is the winner determined. My input would be most wins. Ties are considered a push and have no bearing. Does everyone agree. If that is the case then a 50-34-4 would beat a 50-36-2 for example.

Also in week 16 and 17 it was stated that:

There is one catch however…………..in weeks 16 and 17, all members will NOT submit 7 games………NO, NO, NO,……………they will have to submit the whole card………you got it…………..16 games for the final 2 weeks………….YOU WILL NEED TO HANDICAPP THE FINAL 32 REGULAR SEASON GAMES - so no lead will be safe in this pool!!!

My opinion is that you can take either side of the teams or total points therefore each game has four choices and you need to pick one of the four. If everyone agrees I will put together all the choices and each person will then just copy and paste results they want hopefully in the same order so it is easier to grade. I'll wait for some feedback first.

Good Luck to All as we have only 4 weeks left but a total of 46 plays which represents 1/3 of the total plays so it is still wide open.

Any other questions please address in this thread so we all can provide input.

[maxell]

Next question that needs to be addressed is how is the winner determined. My input would be most wins. Ties are considered a push and have no bearing. Does everyone agree. If that is the case then a 50-34-4 would beat a 50-36-2 for example.

How about counting ties as half a win and half a loss? In the above example, the numbers would be 52-36 and 51-37. Seems like you're being docked games if they end in ties. For example, 65-5 would beat 60-0-10. One person has a sample of 70 games vs. the other person's sample of 60 games. Then the question o winning prcentage cmes into play. The half win/half loss on ties will give everybody the same sample of total games to base wins on.

[kev]

here goes nothing

i feel that we should make this as easy for champs as possible and we should go what with champs said and make ties a push. if you really think about it, i play an illegal football ticket every week through a bookmaker and ties count as a loss. so i think that what champs wants to do is fine. also, i agree with having four choices for each game in the final two weeks of the season. and yes, it is still wide, wide open.

kev

[MemphisMafia]

My 2 cents :

I have to side with maxell here , and its no more work on champs one way or the other . My line of reasoning is a push is " not " a loss nor a win ! But to be fair and give everybody " true " recognition for each and every game is very important in any contest . To each his own but a push should not be " held " against anyone because he did not lose , but at the same time that game was played and should be counted !

G.L.

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[BettorsChat]

Push counts as nothing in this contest

And you're right the last 2 weeks you can select either sides or totals or both for the games you select.

[MemphisMafia]

B.C. :

I counter with a small victory and say the do count because they aint in my loss column , so its as if I never played it and still shake the responsibility of tendering a shot ( per rules )

" Being half right also bears being half wrong "



G.L.

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[maxell]

If pushes are nothing, then the advantage goes to the players who have the least amount of ties. Their sample for wins are a much bigger than those who have a lot of pushes. In essence, you're actualy telling the player who risked a pick and did not lose or win the pick that he/she had lost. A push should be taken care of like they do in the sporting leagues. A push if you really want to be fair and give everybody the same sample of games, should be counted as a half win/half loss. This will ensure that somebody does'nt win this thing beause he has the least amount of pushes. Just a note, this is not something that I started to think about since champs brought it up. I've been thinking about the ties would be handled from the first week of this contest. I believe that if everybody has to submit 7 games, all games should count. Yes, the player has a chance to lose all 7 games. But, if he goes 5-0-2, you're telling him/her that lost 2 games when in reality, he lost none. BTW, in gambling, I'll take 5-0-2 any day over 6-1.

[MyAddidas]

Ties are perfect for the Tiebreaker. If two or more people have the same amount of wins, then the one with the most ties is ahead. The ties do mean something and could easily come into play.

[champs]

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[wayne1218]

Who the hell is keeping track of this now that nut is gone?

[champs]

See thread I just bump up. I'll be keeping track. WOuld like input to the few questions so we all know going into the last two weeks what is on the line

[QNick2]

we could add 1/2 point to the lines that have a solid number so there can't be any ties in the last 2 weeks, I don't know if this is possible. Whatever yall decide is fine with me.

[champs]

Since we had mixed sides regarding the determination of what wins the contest I'm going to side with BettorChat answer that the most wins will determine the winner. Ties will only come into play if two or more contestants tie with the same amount of wins. In that case the one with the least amount of losses will be the official winner. Therefore ties won't count as 1/2 of a loss or 1/2 of a win.

[champs]

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