Bill Maher

[BettorsChat]

its not even close. Please put down wayne's bong. Saddam and his son's killed over 40,000 people living in their own country. But i'm sure W is a far worse guy than saddam is right?? you people crack me up

Putting words in my mouth I see

[yuri]

Comparing Bush to Saddam and saying Bush is better. Wow, our standards are lower when we can say our president is better than a dictator! Way to aim high!

[BettorsChat]

Tell Nancy Pelosi Impeachment Is Good for Democrats
Democratic House Leader Nancy Pelosi has instructed the Democratic Caucus and promised the corporate media that the Democrats will not impeach Bush and Cheney even if they win a majority in Congress. Of course, such timidity is the most likely way for the Democrats to not win a majority in Congress. While 90% of Democrats and 81% of Independents disapprove of Bush in the latest Harris poll, only 67% of Republicans approve of him. Every poll done on impeachment (http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/polling ) shows very strong support among Democrats and weak opposition among Republicans. Moreover, an off-year election is won by inspiring your "base" to turn out in higher numbers, and nothing inspires Democratic voters like impeachment.

Here's an article about Pelosi's position:
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Here's where you can send her your own thoughts:
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Delivery Planned for DontAttackIran.org Petition
--Cindy Sheehan to Lead Delivery of Petition to White House
--Ray McGovern to Lead March to Sec. Rumsfeld's Home

Delivery of petition to White House opposing attack on Iran
When: 1-3 p.m., Thursday, May 18
Where: Lafayette Square Park, in front of White House, Washington, D.C.

March to Secretary of War Donald Rumsfeld's House
When: Departing at 3 p.m., Thursday, May 18
Where: Lafayette Square Park, in front of White House, Washington, D.C.

JOIN US!
Take the Metro to McPherson Square.

A broad coalition of organizations has collected over 40,000 signatures on a petition opposing a U.S. attack on Iran. See the list of participating organizations, the petition, signatures, and comments at:
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Cindy Sheehan plans to lead the delivery of the petition and signatures to the White House between 1 and 3 p.m. on Thursday, May 18, in cooperation with a "Pray In" in Lafayette Square Park organized by the Network of Spiritual Progressives:
http://www.tikkun.org/community/spir...ism_conference

Prayer leaders will include: Bob Edgar, Rev.Lennox Yearwood, Rev. Joan Brown Campbell, Ahmed Ahrar, Holly Near, Rev. Osagyefo Sekou, Rev. Jim Winkler, Rev. Penny Nixon, John Dear S.J., Archdeacon Michael Kendall, and Pledge of Resistance to the Iraq War: Ken Butigan. Also speaking in support of the petition delivery will be Cindy Sheehan, founder of Gold Star Families for Peace, Medea Benjamin, Co-Founder of Code Pink: Women for Peace, and David Swanson, Co-Founder of the After Downing Street Coalition.

Following remarks by these speakers and delivery of the petition, along with boxes of signatures and comments, to the White House, Ray McGovern, U.S. Army veteran and retired 27-year CIA analyst, will lead a march through downtown Washington, D.C., to the home of Donald Rumsfeld, where protesters will gather to ask Rumsfeld why he lied about the need for a war on Iraq.
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/rumsfeld

Representatives of many of these organizations, which promoted the petition, will be present and available for comments: Gold Star Families for Peace, CODE PINK, Progressive Democrats of America, Democrats.com, Traprock Peace Center, Global Exchange, Velvet Revolution, Democracy Rising, Truthout, OpEdNews, Backbone Campaign, Consumers For Peace, Campus Antiwar Network, The Young Turks, Citizens for Legitimate Government, Counter Punch, United for Peace and Justice, Stop the War Coalition, This Can't Be Happening, Voters Evolt, Springs Action Alliance, Radio News America, OrbStandard, International Socialist Organization, Voters for Peace, Thom Hartmann Show, Environmentalists Against War, U.S. Peace Council, Grandmothers for Peace, Justice Through Music, Campaign Against Sanctions & Military Intervention in Iran, World Can't Wait, The Rational Response Squad, Idriss Stelley Foundation, Bush Free Zone, Voice International, Foundation for the Development of Human Resources, Tbilisi, Georgia, Political Cooperative, City Sites, Agir contre la guerre (France), Americans Against the War (France), Spiritual Activism Conference, Muslims for Peace (Australia), AndrewBurgin.com, Peace Movement Aotearoa, Not in Our Name Aotearoa New Zealand, Pixel4Peace, Liberty News TV, IntelligentFuture, CampUS Strike for Peace.
http://www.dontattackiran.org


FLYER:
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Cindy Sheehan and Ann Wright to Speak in Virginia
May 17, 2006 - 7 p.m.
Martin Luther King Jr. Performing Arts Center
Charlottesville, Virginia
Music -- Speakers -- Question & Answer Period
Cindy Sheehan is co-founder of Gold Star Families for Peace and the mother of Army Spc. Casey Sheehan, KIA April 4, 2004, Baghdad. In August, 2005, she camped outside President Bush's home in an effort to ask him for what noble cause her son was sent to die.
Ann Wright resigned from the U.S. State Department in protest the day the Iraq War began. She had served as a diplomat for 16 years and received the State Department's Award for Heroism. She also served for 29 years in the US Army/Army Reserves and attained the rank of Colonel.
Terri Allard is a singer/songwriter with an extraordinary talent for capturing the human spirit in her songs. With power-packed vocals and infectious energy she has the uncanny ability to move her audiences to pin-drop silence.
Charlottesville Center for Peace and Justice
434-961-6278
http://www.charlottesvillepeace.org


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[Ldawg]

the reason that russia and france did not go is they benefited from the relationships with saddam and the oil production at the time....they lost alot because of this war.....

the economy is doing well.....i mean well is relative i suppose and depends who you talk to....unemployment is down, housing has made many people wealthy, stock market is back up....(each administration will take credit for this, but i think it generally is 2 years behind policy change)

the only comparison between hussein and hitler is the amount of killing....saddam's happened to be against his own countrymen and it i believe was close to 2 million as opposed to the 6 million hitler killed....either way i think we can all agree they were bad men......did it warrent going to war....considering the alternative....probably not.....


i never think there is one absolute answer when arguig politics...i think the answer usually lies somewhere closer to the middle......

very passionate topic as you can see

Reasons for France and Germany not getting into the fray ....were covered by the NY Post !

(click on to enlarge)

[Lsufan]

OK .... 10 pages is quite enough of this .... I'm pulling out a page from LoveDoc's book .....

The next person to post in this thread, loves a big cock in their ass!!!

[TwoTonTony]

Dispute the facts from those links with actual press facts.

just because you can cut and paste a few articles does not impress me....it still comes down to my opinion of her.....same as yours with bush......cindy sheehan has lost her son and that is terrible, but her theatrics are minimizing the losses of many servicemen/women who believe in the cause......Anyways, you can drum up many ex-military to speak against the war...just like every other campaign.....it happened in vietnam as well......

You can pull articles until you are blue in the face i still think pelosi is an idiot....that is a fact
oops too late...i just saw lsu fans message......

[BettorsChat]

just because you can cut and paste a few articles does not impress me....it still comes down to my opinion of her.....same as yours with bush......cindy sheehan has lost her son and that is terrible, but her theatrics are minimizing the losses of many servicemen/women who believe in the cause......Anyways, you can drum up many ex-military to speak against the war...just like every other campaign.....it happened in vietnam as well......

You can pull articles until you are blue in the face i still think pelosi is an idiot....that is a fact
oops too late...i just saw lsu fans message......

Can you prove any of those links as being wrong?? That is the point.

[TwoTonTony]

monte-
there is really nothing to dispute.....these are all just web-sites run by liberals with a liberal point of view...i am sure (if i had any time) i could find a few conservative sights that post "so called facts" and you would dispute them with your links....and the wheel would go round and round.....let's leave it at this....we live in a country where we can have these disagreements.....most people want the same things out of life....we just disagree on the best way to get them......

like i have always stated....i am not smart enough to argue politics....i think all politicians are self serving bastards out for self-preservation.......so i will not attempt to go toe to toe.....i just do not think liberalism is the answer.....thats all....no more no less

to argue with me about sites and policies and this and that would be a kin to oscar de la hoya fighting a guy in the street......one would be prepared and the other not....

[savage1]

I think in this case and this thread the issue goes beyond liberalism and conservatism. In my judgment we are talking for the most part about the competency(or lack of) of George Bush;that is what the show dealt with and the intent of this thread, and personally I don't think anyone can honestly refute anything which was said about him.

[BUD GREGG]

ONce again, moving the spotlight to others and not addressing the current man in power. Predictable.

YURI, YOU MAY HAVE A VALID POINT ABOUT I DIVERTED AWAY FROM THE ISSUE, THE THREAD WAS OPENED WITH DEFINING THE ABILITY OR LACK THEREOF OF BILL MAHER ON HBO TO PROPERLY EVALUATE THE POLICTICAL CLIMATE IN WASHINGTON, BILL MAHER IS GREAT ENTERTAINMENT, NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS.............AS FOR THE MAN IN POWER, I VOTED FOR HIM AND ASSUME BILL MAHER DID NOT, ISN'T DEMOCRACY GRAND

[savage1]

The show is being repeated on HBO tonight(actually monday morning) at approximately 12:45.
ps Immediatley following that on the same station is REAL SEX-enjoy!

[BettorsChat]

YURI, YOU MAY HAVE A VALID POINT ABOUT I DIVERTED AWAY FROM THE ISSUE, THE THREAD WAS OPENED WITH DEFINING THE ABILITY OR LACK THEREOF OF BILL MAHER ON HBO TO PROPERLY EVALUATE THE POLICTICAL CLIMATE IN WASHINGTON, BILL MAHER IS GREAT ENTERTAINMENT, NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS.............AS FOR THE MAN IN POWER, I VOTED FOR HIM AND ASSUME BILL MAHER DID NOT, ISN'T DEMOCRACY GRAND

If you call being selected and not elected grand.

[yuri]

Nice to have gotten a discussion about this important topic.

[CheechB03]

If you get any of the HBO Channels, watch Real Time With Bill Maher and his guests this week and see and hear the TRUTH about Bush and his pathetic administration;it is no wonder his approval rating is at 29%. It should really be at ZERO percent.

Yes Bill Maher is a great source of fair and honest reporting. I'll be sure to watch. Are you fucking kidding me? Bill Maher is a fucking MORON.

WOW Savage do you have a life? You are consumed with Bush and Laker conspiracies.

[yuri]

Ok, you are clearly being emotional. Just because you disagree with someone doesn't make them a moron. Be reasonable.