Bill Maher

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how easy you forget that Bill clinton let 9/11 happen. yep he was in office GETTING ORAL FROM A FAT INTERN while this whole plan took place over 8 yrs. clinton ignored pentigon intel staying that middle east extremist would one day attack the US. how many attacks have happend sense that dredfull day i ask?? AHHHH ZERO

LMFAO Bush was told of terrorist attacks going to take place on the towers in August yet he reduced security. Then instead of going after Bin Laden he went for Sadaam. And for some damn reason we can't find Laden which is a joke.

Oh, I forgot to mention Bush flied all Laden families out of the US on private planes the next day....geesh what a great guy.

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let me ask you D- this........ how bout your boy kennedy was trashed last week off his ass and didnt get a DWI..... and the media blows it off as oooooo he was on medication. LMAO sure he was. another prime example was D mayor of New orleans Ray nagin stating NO was a "chocolate city" if either of these were a Rep they would be murdered in the media

The Kennedys got there start as the Irish Mafia and that's how they made their money. Then they got into Political office and for the life of me I don't see what's so great about them.

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Agreed-I have respect for both of those men and could easily accept either one of them for president when comparing them with Bush;than again that is not saying much.

McCain is a piece of shit IMO

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I think for example when more and more facts come out, it will be proven that Bush knew more in advance of 9/11 then we were told and could/should have reacted differently.
There are even theories and tape(my brother is going to give me a copy of one)that suggests that the Bush Administration could even have been a knowing accomplice to 9/11.
I understand that the tape shows/has evidence that the Second Tower may have imploded rather than exploded, meaning something was planted.
I am not saying above is true, but I am open minded enough at least to watch it and make me own judgment.

DING DING We have a winner

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you are correct, now i ask you what did W fuck up??

The Country of the United States of America

Only Britian would back us on going to war in Iraq. Everyone else was outraged. Now he's doing the same shit with Iran. Meanwhile North Korea has nukes and shit has been done about it.

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wrong wrong wrong. saddam had WMD's and he was planning on using them. bush had the same exact intelligence that congress had. Bush went to congress and every member with the exception of 1 person voted to go to war. Now that the war isnt going as planned the D party flip flops and trys to say they were mislead by bush. that is a crock. they all voted on the intel they had as did bush. UN also stated countless times that iraq was in violation of imposed santions on iraq with regards to WMD's.

Gee I wonder why they never found any weapons of mass destruction in iraq. And why has so many of Bushe's people quit on him over the years?

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http://www.michaelmoore.com/books-fi...ndex.php?id=16

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We get it Savage, you don't like the President and you don't like services. Geez, deal with it will ya. And I don't know how his neutral his panel is with their OPINIONS, which you clearly confuse with the word TRUTH.

We get it that you love Bush.

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I seem to have missed a great discussion.
What kills me is that after reading this WHOLE thing is the BUsh bashers seem to not believe anything positive and their arguments are based on their interpretation and non on fact.
Yes the economy is doing wel...
Yes the Democrats were in office when they GAVE approval to the 2 LARGEST oil companies to merge.
Yes Iraq had WMD's. Saddam did kill thousands with bio chemical weapons, DID HE NOT?
OSSAMA OSSAMA you have got to be kidding me if you truly believe this guy is alive.....Haven't seen anything from this guy since 2002. If he was still in one piece don't you think he would show himself? What a great way that would be to snub your nose at your biggest enemy? (ha ha you missed me now you gotta kiss me).
I also believe that as the biggest most pwerful nation in the world we have an obligation to protect those smaller and weaker who are being victimized by tyranny?
Would it have been the proper to go to invade Germany to remove Hitler? NOONE would say NO...But I ask was what Saddam was doing any different? He was "cleansing" by the use of chemical weapons other religious groups (women and children included) that differ in belief from his party. I've seen pictures from these villages IT WAS HORRIBLE!!! when you're the biggest kid on the block you should protect the smaller kids.
(how do you think JBC got this far?)

Anyway I love debates they do promote thought and insight as long as you don't take it personal.....Thanks guys.

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We get it that you love Bush.

Show me the post where I say that. I've not shared my views on Bush(with a capital B) anytime. I just laugh at the left and their media that goes around claiming the sky is falling everyday. Everything negative, nothing positive. No plans, but mudslinging and Monday morning quarterbacking. Both sides, and most if not all politicians are corrupt and only looking out for themselves and how they can stay in office and continue with their gravy-train lifestyles with all the perks and benes.

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political arguments are fruitless.....the more accusations that are made the more people dig their heels in.....dems and republicans.....as far as bill maher is concerned....of course liberals are going to think he is dead on.....why would they not? he is saying everything they believe is true......i am sure the same can be said for sean hannerty's show and republicans.......They probably say the same thing savage is saying about maher's show.....I will leave my political persuasion out of this, because it matters not......All i will say is hindsight is 20/20.......on all matters....

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I seem to have missed a great discussion.
What kills me is that after reading this WHOLE thing is the BUsh bashers seem to not believe anything positive and their arguments are based on their interpretation and non on fact.
Yes the economy is doing wel...
Yes the Democrats were in office when they GAVE approval to the 2 LARGEST oil companies to merge.
Yes Iraq had WMD's. Saddam did kill thousands with bio chemical weapons, DID HE NOT?
OSSAMA OSSAMA you have got to be kidding me if you truly believe this guy is alive.....Haven't seen anything from this guy since 2002. If he was still in one piece don't you think he would show himself? What a great way that would be to snub your nose at your biggest enemy? (ha ha you missed me now you gotta kiss me).
I also believe that as the biggest most pwerful nation in the world we have an obligation to protect those smaller and weaker who are being victimized by tyranny?
Would it have been the proper to go to invade Germany to remove Hitler? NOONE would say NO...But I ask was what Saddam was doing any different? He was "cleansing" by the use of chemical weapons other religious groups (women and children included) that differ in belief from his party. I've seen pictures from these villages IT WAS HORRIBLE!!! when you're the biggest kid on the block you should protect the smaller kids.
(how do you think JBC got this far?)

Anyway I love debates they do promote thought and insight as long as you don't take it personal.....Thanks guys.

Bush and company let Microsoft off easy and now are allowing some of the ma bells to get back together which were broke up in the early 80's.

Bin Laden just had a new tape out last week or the week before and it was him so he's out there.

Prove the econonmy is doing well.
Prove Sadaam had weapons of mass destruction.

Comparing Sadaam and Hitler is not even close. Hitler wanted rid of all of the Jewish people and killed millions.

Why was Britan and the USA the only 2 countries willing to go in to Iraq? Why not Russia, Canada, France etc?

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Show me the post where I say that. I've not shared my views on Bush(with a capital B) anytime. I just laugh at the left and their media that goes around claiming the sky is falling everyday. Everything negative, nothing positive. No plans, but mudslinging and Monday morning quarterbacking. Both sides, and most if not all politicians are corrupt and only looking out for themselves and how they can stay in office and continue with their gravy-train lifestyles with all the perks and benes.

You're always defending Bush.

And the last part of what you said is correct and that applies to both sides.

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Anyone not believing facts please dispute each one of the following regarding bush. I believe there are 6 pages. And don't say that site is full of shit as it uses stated facts by the media/press.

http://www.michaelmoore.com/books-fi...ndex.php?id=16

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Bush and company let Microsoft off easy and now are allowing some of the ma bells to get back together which were broke up in the early 80's.

Bin Laden just had a new tape out last week or the week before and it was him so he's out there.

Prove the econonmy is doing well.
Prove Sadaam had weapons of mass destruction.

Comparing Sadaam and Hitler is not even close. Hitler wanted rid of all of the Jewish people and killed millions.

Why was Britan and the USA the only 2 countries willing to go in to Iraq? Why not Russia, Canada, France etc?

the reason that russia and france did not go is they benefited from the relationships with saddam and the oil production at the time....they lost alot because of this war.....

the economy is doing well.....i mean well is relative i suppose and depends who you talk to....unemployment is down, housing has made many people wealthy, stock market is back up....(each administration will take credit for this, but i think it generally is 2 years behind policy change)

the only comparison between hussein and hitler is the amount of killing....saddam's happened to be against his own countrymen and it i believe was close to 2 million as opposed to the 6 million hitler killed....either way i think we can all agree they were bad men......did it warrent going to war....considering the alternative....probably not.....


i never think there is one absolute answer when arguig politics...i think the answer usually lies somewhere closer to the middle......

very passionate topic as you can see