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    In the interest of fair and balanced reporting, I just discovered this on the website of the company I used to find my lady.
    If you read this or even a portion of it(it is a very long article), you will see that is is possible to get ripped off very easily in your search for a foreign lady.
    Keep in mind though that stories like this serve as and ad for agencies like mine(Foreign Affair), as they will assure you that all of their ladies are screened.
    Anyways, here it is, and at least read a paragraph or two;it is fascinating stuff:



    Please click here to read the transcript of an actual call


    Scam n. "A fraudulent business scheme; a swindle".

    Although we are not aware of any industry that is immune to scams, some tend to have a higher occurrence of scams than others. It may be due to the fact that in the matchmaking industry we are dealing with such intangibles as love, hopes, and dreams. The International Matchmaking sector has the added dimension of distance; many of the couples will correspond without ever actually meeting. These factors can and do lead to "scams".

    Just recently, the headlines have been ripe with information about specific scams involving so-called Russian women. In one case, a man was sentenced to 5 years in jail for defrauding hundreds of men for more than $700,000. The New York Times recently ran an article dealing with E-mail and Internet scams involving so-called Russian women. In both cases they discuss how these women didn't even really exist, yet the men still sent thousands of dollars to them.

    We have been telling our clients since we began almost ten years ago not to send money to women you do not know. Even if you know the woman you should be very careful about sending money; it should be a very large red flag and only done with the utmost of care. We have sent newsletters out on this subject time and time again, and hopefully our clients are not the ones that are falling for these scams.

    Arrest made in Russian women scam

    We would like to pass this along to demonstrate, yet again, why you should never send money. We have posted many times and written many articles about not sending money to women. However, the problem persists. Sincere women will not ask for money. Please read below:

    Ekaterinburg, March 2nd, Interfax-Ural. The General Investigation Department of the Main Office of Home Affairs of Sverdlovskaya Oblast has accomplished and passed on to the court the criminal case against two residents of Ekaterinburg committing fraud in the Internet. Valery Gorelykh, press-manager of the Main Office of Home Affairs of Sverdlovskaya Oblast, reported to the Intefax Agency that two residents of Ekaterinburg, an unmarried couple, put on the Internet site “Russian Girls” stealing a number of photos of girls who supposedly were looking for foreign husbands from other sites. After a short correspondence “a fiance” invited one of the girls he had liked to visit him. A woman swindler wrote to a “fiance” on behalf of the girl saying she was penniless and couldn’t afford the trip. The letter received, a “fiance” wired money for traveling expenses and clothes to a “pseudofiancee”.

    In addition the above site had it that “fiances” could transfer money to the bank account of an Ekaterinburg based agency that will see that “fiancees” had all they needed. The press-manager gave an example. One Canadian citizen who had sent money to the girl he had taken to, got a note saying his “fiancee” had fallen a victim to the Russian mafia and lost all her money.

    Having received the note a loving Canadian packed his things and had flown off to Russia with the aim of meeting his “fiancee” hurt by rotters. On his arrival the Canadian reported the incident to Ekaterinburg based Consulate General of Great Britain and the regional police. The General Investgation Department of the Main Agency of Home Affairs of Sverdlovskaya Oblast filed a lawsuit under the criminal article no 159 (ferocious fraud) stipulating 10-year imprisonment. Vladimir Vorotnikov who runs the Main Office of Home Affairs of Sverdlovskaya Oblast requested that the Interpol professionals and the regional policemen specializing in handling computer crimes be involved.

    The rotters whose names aren’t disclosed in the interests of investigation, were tracked down and arrested. Currently they are waiting for the court verdict to be announced.

    You can find a wonderful foreign bride, there is no doubt about that. You really have to look at this as you would any other service. If you take your vehicle to three different garages to be repaired, you are likely to get three entirely different estimates. Some will be honest and some will be scams, unfortunately that is just the way it is. It is no different in the matchmaking arena except for the fact that we want to believe. We want to believe that it is real and that the woman really does exist and that she is really in love with us. It is that strong desire that tends to put the blinders on and allows us to become susceptible to these otherwise very obvious scams.

    If you have not already read some of the information on our site about how to avoid scams and not become a victim, we highly recommend that you click here and at least read these two articles:



    Risks and Responsibilities

    How Can I Avoid Fraud in my Search for a Foreign Wife?

    How to Waste Time and Lose Money While Searching for a Foreign Bride



    The best advice that we can give you is to simply contact us if you feel there is something not right in the relationship. Before you go off and send that $1,000.00 for a visa or an operation or whatever reason, simply call us and take advantage of our knowledge and years of experience. You have nothing to lose; you will either save money and avoid becoming a victim, or achieve peace of mind; either way you win! It is a free, confidential service we offer to anyone regardless as to where you met the woman. So do not send that money just yet, call us first!

    You can contact us at (602) 553-8178, just ask to speak with a scam counselor. All we can do is offer advice; you will have to make the final choice and take responsibility for your choice, however we are happy to share our experience with you.



    Click here for more examples of correspondence our clients have sent us



    Below is just an example of a recent call we took from a gentleman that was concerned that there was something just not right about the woman he had been writing. (the transcript is paraphrased and was reproduced from the memory of the Counselor shortly after the call and does not include the entire call).

    If you have any examples of scams that you were involved with please e-mail them to [email protected] and I will be happy to take a look at them and possibly post them on the site.

    Caller: Hi, I was referred to your site from another site that works with scams, they said you guys were very good and could help. While looking through your site I saw your section on scams and I thought I would take you up on your offer of advice as it relates to possible scams.

    Counselor: Great! How can we help you?

    Caller: I have been corresponding with a woman from Lugansk for sometime now, I met her from company other than yours, and she now wants to come here to visit me. I did not think that it would be easy for her to get a visa, especially from Lugansk, which seems to be the scam capital, but she assured me that she could do it.

    Counselor: How did she say she could do it?

    Caller: She had me call a travel agent and the travel agent told me that, yes, she could get the visa and the passport and the tickets all for $1,000.00. They would send her on a packaged religious tour, which is how they could obtain the US visa. That price would get her right to my city.

    Counselor: That is a classic scam. If you send the money, you will never see the money or the woman again. The woman may not even exist, there is a good chance that you may be speaking with just one of many people working out of a boiler room operation. The “Travel Agency” is probably just another person taking the call answering the phone as a travel agency but probably does not exist at all and is only there to trick you into sending $1,000.00.

    Caller: Yes, I had a feeling it was not right. I offered to go there to see her and she did not want me to come, kept saying it was a bad idea, and that she should come to see me.

    Counselor: That makes sense, she wouldn't want you to come there to see her, especially if she did not really exist. You are much better off going over to meet the women and even then you are much better off going with a group tour, if not ours than take another reputable company, but whatever you do - do not send the money!

    Caller: Ok thank you very much, I think a group tour may be the way to go as well.


    The following is a true story, one that should be read carefully by anyone considering corresponding with anyone over the Internet, foreign or domestic. This gentlemen did not meet this person via our service, although no matter what service you use we advise you never to send money and to always consult one of our scam counselors if you are asked for money. The vast majority of women are sincere and honest. however there are unethical people out there working in a very organized and illegal way and they can be very aggressive. one of the main red flags is that they will often respond to one of your ad's, they will make first contact, as they did in the case below.

    John,
    I'm writing to tell you my recent encounter of being scammed by a Russian women, pretending to be in Love with over the internet.
    She first contacted me, through the Filipino Friend Finder web site. She located my pictures and my profile on their site, and she contacted me. She wrote letters with broken English, or with Russian terms for our language. It was all innocent at first, then the letters began describing how she thought it should be destiny, for her to find me this way. And then when she wrote the first letter, she did not think she would get a reply, but behold she got the reply from me. After that each letter showed more enthusiasm and excitement, and talk of her feelings becoming feelings of love, for such a concerned kind man like me. She told me she only made enough money to maintain her own apartment, but could not afford telephone or home computer. She emailed me everyday from her place of work.
    As the letters progressed for 3 months, she asked if there would ever be a chance for us to meet in person? Could I come there to meet her? Since I'm disabled and in a wheelchair, I could not take traveling 23 to 28 hours, changing planes two or three times to get there, plus I have no idea of their handicapped accessible hotels or motels there. I explained it all to her, and she told me she had a one month vacation coming up soon in September. She asked if it would be alright if she applied for a Tourist Visa, and if I would like her to come here to meet, if her Visa and passport were approved. I was excited and said Yes, right away. She claimed to leave her town of Cheboksary on a Friday evening and travel to Moscow. She told me she spoke with a travel agency, with who she must sign a contract and they would help her with the complete process, but all must be handled through them. She first asked for $675.00 dollars for Documents and processing fees.
    After her interview at the embassy, Medical checkup, and criminal background check, all was approved. Then she needed to purchase plane ticket, so she asked for $1,575.00 for air fare. I told her I could buy it here on the internet cheaper and Federal Express the ticket to her, but she said it was a condition of the contract, that she purchase the ticket from the agency, or else a term of the contracted is violated, and they would report this violation to the Embassy, who then would not give her the Visa or Passport. I sent the money by Western Union. After she got the money, she claimed to go to the travel agency and buy the ticket. She then wrote to me to tell me the ticket they sold her was only for one way, to get here. They apologized for the mistake but now they would return that ticket and give her better price by selling her two one way tickets at the same time with open dates of travel. She needed an additional $520.00 sent so she could purchase both tickets. If she could not prove she had a return ticket to come home her Visa would not be issued. It all sounded skeptical to me at first, but I don't know there customs or laws there, so I chose to trust and believe her. After all she loved me, and could not wait to arrive here for our meeting. When she took her tickets and luggage to the airport, to come here, she said the Customs Department asked her to show them proof of her solvency, that she could in fact afford to travel to the US and have money to spend as a tourist, or be able to afford a hotel if necessary. She said she did not know this was a requirement, and she tried to explain to them her reason for coming here, and that she would not need money like that since she would be staying here at my home. Since her Visa was good for 90 days she wanted to spend the whole time here, and took leave from work along with her vacation to stay the whole 90 days. But customs said she must prove she would not be arriving here like a vagabond, asking people for money, or becoming a prostitute to pay her way. They told her she must be able to prove to them that she has at least $1,000.00 US Dollars for that long of a trip. She asked me to send it and as soon as she would arrive at the airport, it would be returned to me unspent or untouched, since it was only for show to the customs. I sent it. She was to then leave Moscow 5:00 PM Wednesday, go to Great Britain (LHR) Airport, from there to New York (JfK), from there to Pittsburgh (PIT), arriving at 7:43 AM Thursday. Total flight time 22 hours 43 minutes. She gave me the flight numbers and times. She did her home work good. I checked the internet flight schedules, there was a Flight 873 British Airways leaving Moscow at 5:00 PM on that date, and arriving at Pittsburgh at 7:43 AM the next morning.
    Then there was the last email I received Wednesday evening, long after her departure time, saying she was detained at customs, because she set of the metal detector, because of a ring she bought for me, her future husband. So they kept her there for interrogation about smuggling jewelry. If she paid a fine of $890.00 it would take care of everything, and she would be allowed to go. I wrote back saying I would NOT SEND ANYMORE MONEY. NONE.
    That was it, I never got a reply, no more emails, no phone calls. She had called me at least 4 times before. But not since. I know I must sound like a real jerk, and stupid person to anyone reading this, but believe me, if you read the right words in letters, listen to her voice on the phone, she was so very convincing. I think I will never trust another foreign woman, unless she is already here in the US. Just in case anyone out there doubts it can happen to them, just look at the attached photos, and do yourself a favor, do not answer any letters from a woman calling herself Tatyana Chernih.
    Good Luck to All,
    Vic (PA)





    Below are some more client experiences with scams:


    Hello! My name is Daniel. Recently I was cyber dating a russian girl from Samara named Anna Teplova. After 6 months of chatting online, and telephone calls I decided it was time that we meet in person so I invited her over. She claimed that she could not afford to travel, and asked for me to pay. Happily I took out a loan, and sent her $2,600.00 to pay for her visa, tickets, and other documents. A week later she claimed customs needed an additional $2,300.00 to be allowed on the plane. I went to the airport on the day she was to arrive here, and waited. She never got off the plane. I went home, and checked online with both the US embassy in Moscow, and the airline for which she was suppose to be on. Neither had any knowledge of her ever having come, and purchased anything. I was devastated! That's when I came to Loveme.com.


    HELLO, JOHN I HAVE NEVER MET HER,AND I HAVE NEVER TALK TO HER ON THE TELEPHONE, SHE SAID THAT THE RUSSIAN PHONE SYSTEM IS VERY BAD AND SHE CANT CALL THRUGH TO ME. THE ONLY THING SHE DID WAS GIVE ME HER MAILING ADDRESS AND CONSTANTLY EMAIL ME DAILY AND TELL ME SHE LOVES ME AND WANT TO COME AND LIVE WITH ME,AND SHE SAID IT IS GOING TO COST HER $400.00 TO GET A VISA IN MOSCOW, SHE ALSO WANTED PERSONAL INFORMATION ON ME LIKE SOCIAL SECURITY#,AND A LOT OF PERSONAL INFORMATION ON ME. SHE, SAW ME ON YAHOO PERSONALS AND HAVE BEEN WRITTING ME FOR ABOUT 3-MONTHS.


    I just wanted to thank your site. I had been getting e-mails from a Russian woman. I knew this smelled from hell to high heaven, but was waiting for a break on Google. She had e-mailed me about a possible visit, and that she would contact the Irkutsk Visa Agency. When I typed that into Google. I found your sample scam, her last e-mail to me(word for word) and the next 4 letters I would be getting from her. I don't feel cheated, as they were not getting any money out of me, plus the pics of the girl were pretty hot. But if you guys want me to forward any of this(Including the pics) to you. I would be more then happy to. I see that you have a ligitimate service, and this crap does not help. So if you want the e-mails and pics. Drop me a line and let me know.
    Thanks again.
    Robb R.

    hi john i wanted to ask you some questions about your tours . you see i had been talking to Russian women over the Internet and over several months they told me that they loved me and wanted to be with me as my wife and if i send them the money for visa and passport and plane tickets that they would arrive to me so trusting as i am i sent them the money and i waited at air port and they did not show up they had con me out of 6000 dollars. the women's names are Alla butenina from yoshkar-ola and polina sabantseva from volzhsk.will you please alert that no other man will be conned by these women just for their money. i wanted to go on a tour maybe next year because i have to save up fore it .i wished that i had of went on a tour instead of trusting the women on Internet. when i go on a tour what will i have to do , what papers do i need to get do i need a visa and passport. how and were will i get these. i wait for your answer Glenn C.

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  • #2
    ps for some reason I cannot edit this. I really meant to put Ugly Side as the title, but I guess Ugly Set is just as good.

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    • #3
      Same thing happened to my brother, except he wouldnt send her any money. She kept turning up the heat with sex talk when she arrived, she was a Russian bitch also
      Questions, comments, complaints:
      [email protected]

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      • #4
        Jcindaaville-your brother was the first one I thought of. Did you see the question I asked in the Romance Thread:whether your brother is going to Brazil cold turkey with no prospects or is going to meet some ladies with whom he has already correponded?

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        • #5
          He and a buddy have been there a few times before. Mainly a booty call for him, but he does hold out the hope of meeting someone thats not a prostitute. Can you recommend any inpaticular place there he should check out?
          Questions, comments, complaints:
          [email protected]

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          • #6
            Jcindavaille-I have never been there. A number of ladies from latinamericancupid.com and mates1.com wrote to me though.
            if your brother and his buddy have been there before, they know better than I;obviously the stores found in any big cities would be a starting point; overall it strikes me as a crapshoot, but you never know.
            If your brother goes there without any high expectations, he will be fine and probably have a great vacation.

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            • #7
              www.tlcworldwide.com

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