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  • #31
    Trayvon Martin 911 call: Audio experts say likely not George Zimmerman screaming


    A pair of audio experts who analyzed a 911 call made during the Feb. 26 killing of Trayvon Martin told the Orlando Sentinel on Monday that they don't believe the screams heard on the recording are those of neighborhood watchman George Zimmerman.

    "There's a huge chance that this is not Zimmerman's voice," Ed Primeau, an audio engineer who is listed as an expert in recorded evidence by the American College of Forensic Examiners International, told the paper. "As a matter of fact, after 28 years of doing this, I would put my reputation on the line and say this is not George Zimmerman screaming."

    The other—Tom Owen, chairman emeritus of the American Board of Recorded Evidence—also told the Sentinel he does not believe the screams came from Zimmerman.

    Owen used Easy Voice Biometrics software to compare Zimmerman's voice to the 911 call screams, and it was a 48 percent match—well short of the 90 percent needed for a positive match, he said.

    On CNN, Primeau said he's 95 percent sure the screams heard on the tape are not Zimmerman's.

    [ Hear audio of the 911 call. ]

    Both experts, though, cautioned that they cannot identify who was screaming with absolute certainty, in part, because they have no audio samples from Martin. ("I believe that's Trayvon Martin in the background, without a doubt," Primeau said. "That's a young man screaming.)

    Zimmerman claims he shot the unarmed 17-year-old after a violent confrontation, and that he was screaming for help after Martin punched him in the face, knocked him to the ground and slammed his head into the concrete.

    A recording of Zimmerman screaming would bolster the 28-year-old's self-defense case.

    A surveillance video released last week by ABC News shows Zimmerman being led into a police precinct for questioning the night of the shooting. On the video, Zimmerman does not appear to have serious injuries.

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    • #32



      *Last week, a video showing George Zimmerman at the Sanford Police Department the night he killed Trayvon Martin originally appeared to show no signs of the violent fight he told police took place between himself and the 17-year-old that night, but ABC news has enhanced the video showing signs of injury on Zimmerman’s head.

      ABC’s Matt Gutman said the network re-digitized the video to reveal what appears to be “a pair of gashes or welts” on the back of Zimmerman’s head. [Watch below.] This discovery is more consistent with Zimmerman’s account of what happened the night of Feb. 26. According to a police report first described by the Orlando Sentinel, Zimmerman told investigators that Martin jumped him from behind, punched him in the nose and pounded his head into the sidewalk.

      During an interview on “The Today Show,” Craig Sonner, Zimmerman’s lawyer, said the video was “too grainy” to show the injuries his client claimed he sustained in his fight with Martin. However, the funeral director who handled the body of the slain teen told Nancy Grace there were no cuts, bruises or signs of a fight on Martin’s body.

      “I didn’t see any evidence he had been fighting anybody,” Richard Kurtz of Roy Mizell and Kurtz Funeral Home in Fort Lauderdale told the television talk show host.

      Police took Zimmerman into custody after they arrived. He was questioned and released later that night. He remains free as the Seminole County State Attorney’s Office reviews the police investigation and decides whether to files charges. The U.S. Justice Department is also investigating.

      Zimmerman announced this afternoon that he will turn himself in should charges be filed against him.

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        • #34
          No matter what, the kid was unarmed and never should have been killed JMHO
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          • #35
            absolutely, even if he was bashing his head in the cement.. take it like a man and say you lost the fight!

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            • #36
              Originally posted by The Lovedoc View Post
              absolutely, even if he was bashing his head in the cement.. take it like a man and say you lost the fight!
              They say Zimmerman had a broken nose and scratches on the back of his head. I am thinking Trayvon hit him and layed him out and he hit his head on the concrete. Trayvon then jumped on top of him, striking him a few more times. Then Zimm pulled his weapon and then you hear Trayvon screaming in fear. As soon as the shot was heard the screaming stopped.

              Even though it was wrong for Zimm, the wanna be cop, to be following this kid, I could understand him pulling his weapon out when he was on the ground because he was getting his arse kicked but he never should have pulled the trigger. Trayvon was unarmed.

              I have it all figured out don't I?? LOL. No need to have the trial.


              Just my thoughts.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Spark View Post
                They say Zimmerman had a broken nose and scratches on the back of his head. I am thinking Trayvon hit him and layed him out and he hit his head on the concrete. Trayvon then jumped on top of him, striking him a few more times. Then Zimm pulled his weapon and then you hear Trayvon screaming in fear. As soon as the shot was heard the screaming stopped.

                Even though it was wrong for Zimm, the wanna be cop, to be following this kid, I could understand him pulling his weapon out when he was on the ground because he was getting his arse kicked but he never should have pulled the trigger. Trayvon was unarmed.

                I have it all figured out don't I?? LOL. No need to have the trial.


                Just my thoughts.
                couldnt disagree with you more. If anyone was beating me down and I had a weapon id use it w/o a doubt..... with no remorse. In that situation you dont know if the person whom you are fighting is going to try and end your life or not. this wannabe ganster kid coulda had a knife or gun himself. There is no way to know. He didnt but how would you know that when you were getting your face bashed in? Are you suppose to stop and ask....hey by chance are you carrying a guy or knife?
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by 10DimeBry View Post
                  couldnt disagree with you more. If anyone was beating me down and I had a weapon id use it w/o a doubt..... with no remorse. In that situation you dont know if the person whom you are fighting is going to try and end your life or not. this wannabe ganster kid coulda had a knife or gun himself. There is no way to know. He didnt but how would you know that when you were getting your face bashed in? Are you suppose to stop and ask....hey by chance are you carrying a guy or knife?
                  No, I guess you are suppose to pull out a gun and shoot an unarmed kid

                  So then anyone that gets hit in the face by someone should end up with a killing of one of them?? It is ok to pull a gun out and shoot if someone hits you in the face??

                  Wanna be gang banger?? Did he have that written on his coat while he was being followed??

                  Come on Bry, think about it kid.

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                  • #39
                    Bail set at 150K, photo's released this morning with blood on the back of his head.


                    I would be a good juror on this one, I really don't know where I stand. Bad situation for all involved. I know that.

                    Really bad for the kid and his family obviously.

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                    • #40
                      Let the riots begin.If I owned a TV or jewelry shop downtown I believe I'd be getting the hell out of it about now.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by ToDaClub View Post
                        Bail set at 150K, photo's released this morning with blood on the back of his head.


                        I would be a good juror on this one, I really don't know where I stand. Bad situation for all involved. I know that.

                        Really bad for the kid and his family obviously.
                        Convict him for poor judgement and being a power hungry wannabe cop.

                        Acquit him of 2nd degree murder or any other charge due to the Stand Your Ground Law in Florida.

                        No way he gets convicted for murder 2, and shame on the media (MSNBC) for any violence that may occur when he is acquitted. This has hung jury written all over it.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by robby_morini View Post
                          Convict him for poor judgement and being a power hungry wannabe cop.

                          Acquit him of 2nd degree murder or any other charge due to the Stand Your Ground Law in Florida.

                          No way he gets convicted for murder 2, and shame on the media (MSNBC) for any violence that may occur when he is acquitted. This has hung jury written all over it.
                          I agree robby. He walks

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Spark View Post
                            No, I guess you are suppose to pull out a gun and shoot an unarmed kid

                            So then anyone that gets hit in the face by someone should end up with a killing of one of them?? It is ok to pull a gun out and shoot if someone hits you in the face??

                            Wanna be gang banger?? Did he have that written on his coat while he was being followed??

                            Come on Bry, think about it kid.

                            He was being beatin down. It wasnt like he just walked up and shot the kid. And ppl have gotten killed over far less. I'm not saying he isnt at fault on some level. There is no way IMO that he should be charged as murdering this kid. He clearly acted in self defense. Someone died and that is tragic but truth is the kid got what he had coming to him. Zimmerman was being beaten and feared for his life he had a weapon and means to stop the assault and he did what he had to do end of story.
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by 10DimeBry View Post
                              He was being beatin down. It wasnt like he just walked up and shot the kid. And ppl have gotten killed over far less. I'm not saying he isnt at fault on some level. There is no way IMO that he should be charged as murdering this kid. He clearly acted in self defense. Someone died and that is tragic but truth is the kid got what he had coming to him. Zimmerman was being beaten and feared for his life he had a weapon and means to stop the assault and he did what he had to do end of story.

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                              • #45
                                This has manslaughter written all over it. Zero intent, obvious injury to the defendant, no good witnesses. Guy walks with probation at worst and probably gets attacked within a week of getting out. Unfortunately the worst part is that a kid lost his life and it's tragic but it really isn't murder.

                                One more point...Just because someone isn't obviously armed you can still be greatly harmed or killed by even an unarmed assailant. IMO if you're on the ground injured and in the defensive and the assailant hasn't stopped attacking you ave every right to use dealy force. Just my opinion but I think that anyone who has ever been in a real life fight (one without rules or restrictions) would probably agree with.
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