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    I decided to follow up situation to yesterday, which has pretty

    much played itself out;this one does not involve cats, and I

    double spaced it to make it easier to read.

    Hopefully it will get you guys to think-that is the point.

    This one is a little bit closer to home re:the David Ortiz, but

    there are differences.

    The point of this thread is not for you to state why/how the

    circumstances differ from Ortiz, but simply to get you to think

    through a somewhat similar set of circumstances.

    It is a bit shorter than yesterday.

    Anyways lets assume that you are a high school teacher and

    teach Middle School Science.

    Lets also assume at the end of each month during the school

    year you give a 25 question multiple choice test.

    Lets say you have a kid in the class, and lets call him Charlie

    Cheater.

    Ok-now lets assume that Charlie appears to be an average at

    best, seems to be sort of uninterested in class, etc.

    Anyways, during the months of Sept., October and November,

    he gets grades of 68, 72 and 68 again on the monthly test

    score.

    All of a sudden on the test at the end of December, he gets a

    grade of 92.

    Shortly after than you find an anonymous note on your desk

    presumably from another kid in the class stating that he/she

    knows for a fact that Charlie cheated, copying the answers

    from another kid in the class whose desk is right next to

    Charlies, lets call him Bobby TheBrain.

    Anyways you immediately get out the two tests and compare.

    Lets say Bobby got 100, meaning in your mind that if Charlie

    did cheat, he might have deliberately changed a couple of

    answers to try to make it look a little bit different from

    Bobby's so as not to arouse suspicion.

    You decide NOT to question Charlie about this at this point,

    figuring he wouldn't admit it even if he did cheat.

    A week later you move a number of people around in your

    including Charlie and give some made up reason for doing it

    (hopefully the kids will buy it)-obviously the real reason is that

    you want to know if Charlie did cheat and how he will do

    if he surrounded with different folks.

    You surround Charlie with average kids like him who never got

    a higher grade than 76 during the first three months, and

    obviously Bobby's desk is nowhere near Charlie's.

    Anyways and to try to make this more concise, during the

    next four months you notice that Charlie seems to be a bit

    more attentive in class, happier and gets test scores of 88,

    92, 96 during the months of January, February and March.

    You get no more anonymous notes stating that Charlie

    cheated.

    Now in April, May and June, things change-Charlie seems

    less attentive in class a little less happy and seems to be

    going back to his old ways-his monthly test scores for those

    months are 72, 68 and 72.

    Now lets say you call Charlie into your office and ask him why

    he thinks he is reverting back to his old ways.

    Lets say Charlie just shrugs his shoulders and doesn't give you

    an answer or at least any kind of answer which makes sense to

    you.

    Now here is my question for you as a teacher:

    What is your overall conclusion out of this?

    A couple of possibilites are 1) that Charlie was simply happier

    and perhaps more interested in the subject material during the

    months he did well;perhaps his family situation was better.

    Things deteriorated ever that-he was bored with the subject

    matter, he was unhappy for a variety of reasons, something

    happened in his personal or family situation to cause this,

    etc.

    2) Charlie somehow was able to continue cheating(assuming

    you believe he cheated during December) during the

    months of January, February and March(for the

    record, lets say that Bobby,who was not seated near Charlie

    during those months also did well, although the few questions

    het wrong were different from those of Charlie).

    The reason that Charlie's grades once again went downhill

    was that he was no longer able to cheat.

    Is your opinion #1, #2, somewhere in between or something

    entirely different.

    Lets hear what you think and why.

  • #2
    You can't be serious with this shit?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by kbsooner21 View Post
      You can't be serious with this shit?
      Why not? There is a lot more to life than deciding on which team or teams you are going to bet on each day.

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      • #4
        Bobby the Brain ends up a lawyer who convinces Charlie the Cheater that even though he signed a contract, he should fight it by paying him money to waste the courts time, and the time and money of the other tennants!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ToDaClub View Post
          Bobby the Brain ends up a lawyer who convinces Charlie the Cheater that even though he signed a contract, he should fight it by paying him money to waste the courts time, and the time and money of the other tennants!
          Not bad at all-At least you took the time to read it and came up with some creative and funny sarcasm and parody even if it is directed at me; you obviously have an ability and desire to think and post something original unlike some on these threads who find a post or poster with whom they always agree with and simply say "I agree" and/or "parrot" the same post back changing a word or two to make it sound like THEY came up with it.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by savage1 View Post
            Not bad at all-At least you took the time to read it and came up with some creative and funny sarcasm and parody even if it is directed at me; you obviously have an ability and desire to think and post something original unlike some on these threads who find a post or poster with whom they always agree with and simply say "I agree" and/or "parrot" the same post back changing a word or two to make it sound like THEY came up with it.
            Club lives in North Dakota.He has nothing to do but read useless threads your start Sorry Club

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