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  • Activist Says Zoo 'Must Kill' Baby Polar Bear

    By JOSH WARD
    AP
    BERLIN (March 20) - Berlin Zoo's abandoned polar bear cub Knut looks cute, cuddly and has become a front-page media darling, but an animal rights activist insisted Monday he would have been better off dead than raised by humans.


    "Feeding by hand is not species-appropriate but a gross violation of animal protection laws," animal rights activist Frank Albrecht was quoted as saying by the mass-circulation Bild daily, which has featured regular photo spreads tracking fuzzy Knut's frolicking.

    "The zoo must kill the bear."

    When Knut - or "Cute Knut," as the 8.7 kilogram (19 pound) bear has become known - was born last December, his mother ignored him and his brother, who later died. Zoo officials intervened, choosing to raise the cub themselves.

    The story prompted quick condemnations from the zoo, politicians and other animal rights groups.

    "The killing of an animal has nothing to do with animal protection," said Wolfgang Apel, head of the German Federation for the Protection of Animals.

    Greens politician Undine Kurth called the suggestion "fully unacceptable." Petra Pau of the opposition Left Party invoked the widely-reported case of an Italian bear dubbed "Bruno" who wandered last year into southern Germany, only to be killed by hunters at the behest of local authorities worried about residents and livestock.

    "Berlin is not Bavaria, therefore it will be better for Knut than Bruno," Pau said.

    Albrecht told The Associated Press his beliefs were more nuanced than reported by Bild, though he applauded the debate the article had started.

    He explained that though he thought it was wrong of the zoo to have saved the cub's life, now that the bear can live on his own, it would be equally wrong to kill him.

    "If a polar bear mother rejected the baby, then I believe the zoo must follow the instincts of nature," Albrecht said. "In the wild, it would have been left to die."

    The German animal rights organization "Four Paws" argued along similar lines, saying it would not be right to punish the cub for a bad decision made by the zoo.

    Other activists have also argued that current treatment of the cub is inhumane and could lead to future difficulties interacting with fellow polar bears.

    "They cannot domesticate a wild animal," Ruediger Schmiedel, head of the Foundation for Bears, told Der Spiegel weekly in its Monday edition.

    Albrecht cited a similar case of a baby sloth bear that was abandoned by its mother last December in the Leipzig city zoo and killed by lethal injection, rather than being kept alive by humans.

    But Knut belongs to the Berlin Zoo, and their veterinarian Andre Schuele, charged with caring for him, disagrees.

    "These criticisms make me angry, but you can't take them so seriously," Andre Schuele said. "Polar bears live alone in the wild; I see no logical reason why this bear should be killed."

    Schuele also argued that given the increased rarity of polar bears in the wild, it makes sense to keep them alive in captivity so that they can be bred.

    "Polar bears are under threat of extinction, and if we feed the bear with a bottle, it has a good chance of growing up and perhaps becoming attractive as a stud for other zoos," Schuele said.

    Knut, who recently posed for a photo shoot with star-photographer Annie Leibovitz for an environmental protection campaign, is scheduled to make his public debut at the zoo later this week or early next week, according to Schuele.

    Until then, Germans can follow the bear's progress in a vast photo spread and videos of Knut drinking from his bottle, bathing and playing with teddy bears and soccer balls, all available on the zoo's Web site.

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    • #3
      Fuck dat. Its inhumane to keep a wild animal in a cage but we do it anyway. Let the lil booger live. Its not like if you put an animal infront of him when he's hungry he gonna try to eat it.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by tkim11
        Fuck dat. Its inhumane to keep a wild animal in a cage but we do it anyway. Let the lil booger live. Its not like if you put an animal infront of him when he's hungry he gonna try to eat it.
        Do you really hate this place?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by wayne1218
          Do you really hate this place?


          lol i saw that too. whats up with that tkim?? i always thought you liked it here.
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          • #6
            bover's mom rejected him and he turned out alright.....well okay maybe not
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            • #7
              I dont get it. And I do like it here. I make sure I dont step on any toes. What did I say that got me thinking about being banned?

              Its just a baby cub. You cant domesticate a bear even if you tried.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by tkim11
                I dont get it. And I do like it here. I make sure I dont step on any toes. What did I say that got me thinking about being banned?

                Its just a baby cub. You cant domesticate a bear even if you tried.

                It was a thread we saw at another forum where you said you hated this place and the people who always bitched and moaned.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by wayne1218
                  It was a thread we saw at another forum where you said you hated this place and the people who always bitched and moaned.

                  i saw the exact same thing. i was surprised. i cant speak for anyone else but i've never had any issues with tkim. didnt know he was upset or had issues with anyone here. that was totally news to me.
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                  • #10
                    I dont have problems with anyone nor do I want any. There were so much beakering b/w people about lying about this and that and I was so upset... so I just left quitely without saying anything.

                    Its a great site if ppl would stop bashing each other. I used to love coming in here for a great laugh and help with picks (used to just follow). Wayne and RJ are the ones who I really appreciated with helping me make some mad loot. (There are a lot more). But if you feel the need to ban me..no harm done.

                    If I get banned.... you guys keep up the good work, good luck with your picks, and see you on the flip side.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by tkim11
                      I dont have problems with anyone nor do I want any. There were so much beakering b/w people about lying about this and that and I was so upset... so I just left quitely without saying anything.

                      Its a great site if ppl would stop bashing each other. I used to love coming in here for a great laugh and help with picks (used to just follow). Wayne and RJ are the ones who I really appreciated with helping me make some mad loot. (There are a lot more). But if you feel the need to ban me..no harm done.

                      If I get banned.... you guys keep up the good work, good luck with your picks, and see you on the flip side.
                      Trust me if you think this site has too much bashing just take a look around at other sites. And that's the reason the Rant forum was put up.

                      Also no one plans on banning you. The question in hand was that you stated that you hated this site and people were coming from this site over to that other one causing trouble. And the thread that you were in both posters were told not to bring that over to this site, because not only did it start over there it needs to stay over there.

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                      • #12
                        Fair enough
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                        • #13
                          nobody planned on banning you tkim. In case you didn't notice, there was a at the end of my post. I just couldn't understand why you went off about not liking this place when i see you here often. That's all.

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                          • #14
                            all is cool----tkim---keep those posts coming, and when something/someone irritates ya, IGNORE IT, go about what you want to do, don't worry about a few........we're all FAMILY here podna, including you....know what I mean Verne......hang in with us, we're like all other forums, have our UPS and DOWNS, of which the UPS, completely DOMINATE....

                            Keep em coming my man---best to ya....kapt


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