Question for Red Sox Fans

[savage1]

I had a debate with someone on the Red Sox Forum about this topic, and I would like your honest opinion.
The question is all things considered, who had a better year as closer in terms of the Red Sox overall season, Papelbon in 2006 or Tom Gordon in 1998?
Please state the reason for your choice and use any criterion you wish.
I will give my opinion later, as I don't want to possibly sway anyone one way or the other.
Also, if you read the debate in the Red Sox forum, don't at this point comment upon what I or the other person said.

[wayne1218]

This is easy.

Papelbon. He did things that were unmatched in History as A Red Sox, a Rookie and a Closer!

[savage1]

Wayne-since you divulged your opinion, if you get a chance sometime today, go to the Red Sox forum(www.redsox.com) and read the thread entitled "Papelbon back to closer) and my comments after debate started(I am elysse2 and the other person Mr. Agnes.).
If not I will summarize what he and I said later in the day after a few more folks hopefully have responded to this question on this thread.

[wayne1218]

savage, Nothing personal but i do not like that forum. I looked once and won't look again. It's a Sox forum and arguing with those idiots is wasted breath.

[savage1]

savage, Nothing personal but i do not like that forum. I looked once and won't look again. It's a Sox forum and arguing with those idiots is wasted breath.

Lol-You are correct about that.
In any case, it starts with post #11.

[wayne1218]

Just tell me now. Do you agree or disagree with me on Papelbon?

[savage1]

I agree with you a zillion percent.
Gordon had a fine year, but in the terns of the flow of the seasons involved and when Papelbon and Gordon did what they did , I think ppapelbon wins it hands down.
Well-there goes my not divulging my choice until later.
Seriously, if anyone disagrees or agrees with Wayne and me, please tell us why.

[10DimeBry]

IMO papelbon should be the closer this year. if i was the sox manager id have papelbon as the closer and put tavaras as the #5 starter. believe it or not tavaras did a decent job starting games late last season. #5 starters dont have to be studs. but hey what do i know


to answer the question. papelbon was filthy last year,when he came in the game was DONE. even vs. nyy i wasnt worried for a second.

[kbsooner21]

Papelbon. I agree with 10Dime, wow did i really just say that, that tavaras is a decent 5th starter. Papelbon was straight money last year closing games. Papelbon in, lights go out

[BillMill71]

Papelbon is the correct choice, but why Taveras as the fifth starter?

Schilling
D Mat
Beckett
Wakefield
Lester (as I think his recovery has gone well or another youngster)

[wayne1218]

Tavarez was a much better pitcher starting than he was out of the pen. They also have Clement (who is hurt) & Piniero on the Roster.

[kbsooner21]

What the hell happened to Clement?? He pitched great for the Cubs before he was traded.

[wayne1218]

What the hell happened to Clement?? He pitched great for the Cubs before he was traded.

It all started with a ball off the face. I think he had Tommy John surgery now but i'm not positive about that.

[10DimeBry]

What the hell happened to Clement?? He pitched great for the Cubs before he was traded.

he was a cub.

that says it all

[kbsooner21]

and he sucked as a red suck. go figure