Ozzie Guillen for Manager of the Year

[TheRook]

ban his ass

[10DimeBry]

i meant there was no reason for me to be banned.

[Blackbeard]

I will read this thread later, I don't have time, but I think Guillen is a terrible manager, has no idea when to take pitchers out, and makes many mistakes

[BrezzeEaze]

Rook,
While I see your point about bitching him out in public is not right, I also think that the kid is in "the Show" he is getting a ton of money and if the manager asks him to bean someone...you do it, no questions asked.
This kid didn't wake up one day and become a pro baseball player, he has been around the game long enough to know that he has to do what he told.
If anything the rest of team would have respected the kid a hell of a lot more if he would have beaned the batter.
Could Ozzie have handled it better, no doubt but we live in the age reality TV and people love to see this shit.

[Meathead]

Listen, if the kid would have done his JOB, WHAT HE WAS SUPPOSED TO DO, then none of that would have happened, end of story. Who cares if it takes him 4 pitches to hit the guy, HIT HIM. He would have been thrown out of the game, pat on the but, high fived, had the respect of his mates AND KEPT HIS JOB. WHAT A SISSY.

[TheRook]

Listen, if the kid would have done his JOB, WHAT HE WAS SUPPOSED TO DO, then none of that would have happened, end of story. Who cares if it takes him 4 pitches to hit the guy, HIT HIM. He would have been thrown out of the game, pat on the but, high fived, had the respect of his mates AND KEPT HIS JOB. WHAT A SISSY.

Not sure if you watched the game or not...but he TRIED to hit him!

Maybe he should have thrown in behind him, or something...but nevertheless, what's done is done.

[TheRook]

Rook,
While I see your point about bitching him out in public is not right, I also think that the kid is in "the Show" he is getting a ton of money and if the manager asks him to bean someone...you do it, no questions asked.
This kid didn't wake up one day and become a pro baseball player, he has been around the game long enough to know that he has to do what he told.
If anything the rest of team would have respected the kid a hell of a lot more if he would have beaned the batter.
Could Ozzie have handled it better, no doubt but we live in the age reality TV and people love to see this shit.

You are absoultely RIGHT on the money with him being in the show. He should have done his job and gotten tossed, and he would have had a lot of respect in the clubhouse.

What I didn't agree with is the way it was handled in public. I just don't see how there was anything postive from that in any angle. I'm eager to see how the kid does now in the minors and if he can bounce back, cause something like that can really effect your head.

I watched the game...you could tell he was uncomfortable before he threw the first pitch.

[jcindaville]

Rook and Dimer, pull dicks out and whoever is bigger wins. lol

[kbsooner21]

Rook and Dimer, pull dicks out and whoever is bigger wins. lol

let me guess, you want to be the judge

[TheRook]

ESPN.com had a poll out on this topic and a bit more...here are the results early...




1) Do you feel a pitcher is ever justified in intentionally hitting a batter in retaliation for one of the pitcher's teammates getting hit by a pitch?


80.3% Yes

19.7% No


2) Who should make the call on whether or not to retaliate?


49.3% Manager

30.5% Pitcher

20.2% Player that was originally hit


3) Do you feel a pitcher is ever justified in intentionally hitting a batter in retaliation for a batter showboating at the plate?


65.8% Yes

34.2% No


4) Do you feel a pitcher is ever justified in intentionally hitting a batter to set a tone for the game or fire up his teammates?


66.1% No

33.9% Yes


5) Which method do you feel is best for dealing with this issue?


75.4% Old school: Let the players settle things ... ''You hit one of mine; I hit one of yours.''

24.6% New school: Umpires warn both teams at the first sign of trouble, with ejections to follow.


6) Should a player receive an automatic suspension if he is ejected for intentionally throwing at a batter?


68.9% No

31.1% Yes


7) Do you think White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen expressly ordered rookie pitcher Sean Tracey to hit Hank Blalock in Wednesday's game?


96.6% Yes

3.4% No


8) If Guillen did want the batter hit, was it fair for him to send in a rookie to do it?


62.1% No

37.9% Yes


9) Do you think the White Sox would still have sent Tracey to the minors after the game if he had hit Blalock?


83.5% No

16.5% Yes


10) Do you have a problem with Guillen berating Tracy in the dugout immediately after pulling him from the game?


76.0% Yes

24.0% No


11) What's your take on players taking things into their own hands in baseball and hockey?


74.7% Both are legitimate

12.6% Get rid of both

6.8% Get rid of throwing at hitters in baseball

5.9% Get rid of fighting in hockey


Total Votes: 1,150

[jcindaville]

let me guess, you want to be the judge

As long as i have my magnifying glass i guess i could be the judge

[kbsooner21]

As long as i have my magnifying glass i guess i could be the judge

Bove will be pissed ur trying to steal his job

[Spark]

Rook and Dimer, pull dicks out and whoever is bigger wins. lol

Did someone say something about dicks??

Signed
bover1

[TheRook]

I'm only 2 inches........




































































from the ground.

[10DimeBry]

Rook they wernt talking about your height