Why would you pay someone

[SharkinthePool]

hah ok maybe i shouldnt have posted that late at night. didnt mean to sound like that and how you're taking it. i just got fed up last night with people that charge people money just to take people's money away. i just dont think its right when people claim to be like the best capper in the nation and then suck ass. thats all.

no harm intended and no im not going to star charging for my picks, it was just a statement to make a point. no hate please I hope ya'll understand.

If you really feel that way, just give your picks.. (congrats if you win)..stay out of the service threads which appears you are referring to and be a part of the bettors chat family that gives out free picks to our own.

[Kaptain]

Monte (in post #4) asked a very interesting question, as I too have noticed you pick many hi-line games.........

% is nothing in bases........Ican go 4-1 and break even....

i. e., win with 4 even moneys, and lose a -360, now where are you......with juice, you're dead even.............

There are indeed some good cappers here, who post daily, and not once, I repeat not once, have they blew their own horn.........

Definite sign of immaturity, and craving attention......

Put your plays out there, or don't, doesn't matter to the members here........Your record, units won (not %) is what counts, and you don't show units....kapt

Please answer Montes question....kapt

PS---you wanted attention, and you got it....now respond to it....kapt

[ChangingMyLuck3]

Actually in MLB % doesn't mean anything as units up or down is what counts.

How many units are you up?

I would have to figure that out but like I said I personally bet all the posted picks here and I know im up money in MLB this year. Ive never really worked with units. I don't take high line games unless im sure of them because who really wants to lose 210 bucks on a game because shit does happen.

[ChangingMyLuck3]

Monte (in post #4) asked a very interesting question, as I too have noticed you pick many hi-line games.........

% is nothing in bases........Ican go 4-1 and break even....

i. e., win with 4 even moneys, and lose a -360, now where are you......with juice, you're dead even.............

There are indeed some good cappers here, who post daily, and not once, I repeat not once, have they blew their own horn.........

Definite sign of immaturity, and craving attention......

Put your plays out there, or don't, doesn't matter to the members here........Your record, units won (not %) is what counts, and you don't show units....kapt

Please answer Montes question....kapt

PS---you wanted attention, and you got it....now respond to it....kapt

I didn't want attention, in fact, it wasnt meant to gain attention or reconition on the website it was mearly a statement saying these comp services are pieces of crap and they claim shit that isnt true. And i see people paying these people to get picks wrong for them and I think its bullshit. It's an opininated post, but it's also not intended to give me a boost and not intended to be a "future" pay service post, but mearly statements and opinions.

[Kaptain]

Changing My Luck

I would have to figure that out but like I said I personally bet all the posted picks here and I know im up money in MLB this year. Ive never really worked with units. I don't take high line games unless im sure of them because who really wants to lose 210 bucks on a game because shit does happen.

you state you don't take hi line games unless you're sure of em.....Heres a list of your sure ones since 5-16, including today.........Heres just the lines........I'll go back on these last few days, figure winners, then figure the units won........

(- lines are) -141, 180, 180, 138, 170, 180, 160, 148, 120, 150, 125, 138, 125, 160, 138, 135, 130, 130, 147, 139, 132, 190, 140, 130, 130, 125, 168, 120, 135, 118, 179, 105, 120, 136, 141, 180, 190, 185, 120, 132, 107, 131........

(+ lines are) + 128, 140, 110, 110, 100, 130, 111........

What do you consider a hi line play.......-150, -160, or better.......

Lets use -160........you have 12 of those listed....how many won/how many lost........12 of the 42 plays in the - section are -160 or better.......28.5 %........adding the + sides games (7 of em) = 49 games....In essence.....the last week.....you picked 24 1/2 % of your plays are at -160 or higher.........

and you state your're hitting @54 1/2 % winners(your own record), and you think, you said think, that you're ahead in Money.......Let the Old Kaptain take a cruise back for ya, and do a tally on just this last 7 days for you........Hell I'll just wait for you to do it........you said you would....

With all those hi-lines, you have to hit the hi ones at a much higher pace than shown, or you lose money........

Let me know when you do the units update, I'm thoroughly interested............kapt

[ChangingMyLuck3]

you state you don't take hi line games unless you're sure of em.....Heres a list of your sure ones since 5-16, including today.........Heres just the lines........I'll go back on these last few days, figure winners, then figure the units won........

(- lines are) -141, 180, 180, 138, 170, 180, 160, 148, 120, 150, 125, 138, 125, 160, 138, 135, 130, 130, 147, 139, 132, 190, 140, 130, 130, 125, 168, 120, 135, 118, 179, 105, 120, 136, 141, 180, 190, 185, 120, 132, 107, 131........

(+ lines are) + 128, 140, 110, 110, 100, 130, 111........

What do you consider a hi line play.......-150, -160, or better.......

Lets use -160........you have 12 of those listed....how many won/how many lost........12 of the 42 plays in the - section are -160 or better.......28.5 %........adding the + sides games (7 of em) = 49 games....In essence.....the last week.....you picked 24 1/2 % of your plays are at -160 or higher.........

and you state your're hitting @54 1/2 % winners(your own record), and you think, you said think, that you're ahead in Money.......Let the Old Kaptain take a cruise back for ya, and do a tally on just this last 7 days for you........Hell I'll just wait for you to do it........you said you would....

With all those hi-lines, you have to hit the hi ones at a much higher pace than shown, or you lose money........

Let me know when you do the units update, I'm thoroughly interested............kapt

not one place did I say I think i was up money, i never said think, not once. this is what I typed... I would have to figure that out but like I said I personally bet all the posted picks here and I know im up money in MLB this year. Ive never really worked with units. I don't take high line games unless im sure of them because who really wants to lose 210 bucks on a game because shit does happen.

basically it's gotten way out of proportion, the post that is. all i meant by the post was that I was fed up with people that post comp picks on here and suck. didnt know how some people can live with themselves stealing other peoples money

[Spark]

CML, Let me suggest for you to end this conversation cause you are just burying yourself .. Every post you make you are looking bad more and more ... Just post your plays and things will be fine ... Good Luck

[Spark]

basically it's gotten way out of proportion, the post that is. all i meant by the post was that I was fed up with people that post comp picks on here and suck. didnt know how some people can live with themselves stealing other peoples money

Like this post ... This is not what you meant so just end it ... This is not our first go around ...

[ChuckLazar]

you state you don't take hi line games unless you're sure of em.....Heres a list of your sure ones since 5-16, including today.........Heres just the lines........I'll go back on these last few days, figure winners, then figure the units won........

(- lines are) -141, 180, 180, 138, 170, 180, 160, 148, 120, 150, 125, 138, 125, 160, 138, 135, 130, 130, 147, 139, 132, 190, 140, 130, 130, 125, 168, 120, 135, 118, 179, 105, 120, 136, 141, 180, 190, 185, 120, 132, 107, 131........

(+ lines are) + 128, 140, 110, 110, 100, 130, 111........

What do you consider a hi line play.......-150, -160, or better.......

Lets use -160........you have 12 of those listed....how many won/how many lost........12 of the 42 plays in the - section are -160 or better.......28.5 %........adding the + sides games (7 of em) = 49 games....In essence.....the last week.....you picked 24 1/2 % of your plays are at -160 or higher.........

and you state your're hitting @54 1/2 % winners(your own record), and you think, you said think, that you're ahead in Money.......Let the Old Kaptain take a cruise back for ya, and do a tally on just this last 7 days for you........Hell I'll just wait for you to do it........you said you would....

With all those hi-lines, you have to hit the hi ones at a much higher pace than shown, or you lose money........

Let me know when you do the units update, I'm thoroughly interested............kapt

That is my pt. also I my post back, Karl....
CML, when you say your high lines are your most confident ones when you post them, all I can say is that you have been very lucky winning most of them....Milw. yesterday for example, if not for the late rally, would have put you in the hole...
When you were losing early in the year, you will see when you go back and add up the $$$ you lost, you will be surprised at the totals....
The other day I see you posted that you were new to this to someone when wanting to bet the Preakness...That only goes to show that you must be just starting out, and I'm wondering if you think a winning percentage means a lot....It's not, $$$$ up when betting MLB is the only important thing....
You sound to me like someone I see on another site named Nightmare, who blows a lot of smoke up his ass and brags about winning 10 to 13 days in a row with winning %'s, but has been losing $$$ losing his High moneyline plays...The other day he went 5-2, but lost a -400 moneyline on his 7* play and ended up losing over 20 units or $2,000.

If you are new to betting and want to be around as long as I have, then I'd suggest starting to play -1 to -1.5 run lines or parlay a high line with another game...But I'm only making a suggestion and you can do what you want, it's your $$$ or is it just that you are posting for fun..

Either way enjoy the forum and RESPECT others here and you'll be fine....Post your record in the record forum when you figure your totals out...Good Luck :christmas

[ChuckLazar]

I would have to figure that out but like I said I personally bet all the posted picks here and I know im up money in MLB this year. Ive never really worked with units.

Units are the $$$ that you bet and either win or lose..:christmas

[Kaptain]

excuse me----you're right---you said you know, I repeat Know you're up..........

If you don't track units, you can't possibly know if you're up.......

Telling people to follow you for free, is not beneficial to them, unless they are just for bragging rights (percent wise)......

Units won (money in the bank) is a reason to follow someone...

You say you don't like the way services present themselves and take others money...........they present false scenarios....

showing just your percent won (52.5%), which in reality is below the money making percentile of winners, unless you play a lot of dogs, which you don't, contrarily, you play a lot of hi line favorites.......

In essence, you, just like the services you criticize, show just what you want to show..........what you think are goodies........regardless of why you posted that statement, is not important to me....but you did, and opened Pandora's box.....

I shant continue to even talk with you any further.........I'll respect Spark and end my conversation with you........I've said all I had to say anyway..........

Until you show units ($) won........I, or anyone else will not even contemplate following you.....If you do get some followers, they are apparently not reading my posts, or using your own figures posted........

know what I mean Verne...........best to ya in what ever you endeavor.......as long as it's honest and straight forward, and you don't underestimate others intellect.....kapt

[griswold]

not one place did I say I think i was up money, i never said think, not once. this is what I typed... I would have to figure that out but like I said I personally bet all the posted picks here and I know im up money in MLB this year. Ive never really worked with units. I don't take high line games unless im sure of them because who really wants to lose 210 bucks on a game because shit does happen.

basically it's gotten way out of proportion, the post that is. all i meant by the post was that I was fed up with people that post comp picks on here and suck. didnt know how some people can live with themselves stealing other peoples money

Priceless! He starts this by ridiculing everybody not using his plays and then admits he doesn't even know if he's winning money.

Amazing that he knows his exact W-L record but has no idea of his units........

I suspect that if the units were actually in the black, he'd know exactly what they are.

[wayne1218]

How the fuck can someone "Not work with units" if you are posting here and claiming to be up a ton. Who gives a rats ass about wins & losses in bases??? IT MEANS NOTHING!!!!

Units are ALL THAT MATTERS in a ML sport. If it were NFL or basketball games than great, we could figure that out but don't make a claim in bases and pat yourself on the back while saying you don't use units.

Holy fuck it still amazes me at times when i read some of the shit typed here. I swear my only answer everytime is an attention seeking kid 'cause any adult i've ever known that's been doing this for awhile and gambling just wouldn't come up with crap like this .......................... SERIOUSLY?!?!??!!

[Bill the Thrill]

ditto - wayne

[CheechB03]

I would have to figure that out but like I said I personally bet all the posted picks here and I know im up money in MLB this year.

Based on the favorites you've posted and bet at 121-101 at best you're break-even. 101 loses at an average of -120 would put you at a small loss.