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no dumbass because he didnt have nearly 1 tenth the talented players that torre hadOriginally posted by TMAC951Bet he didnt have over 1,000 wins did he hater??
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Dude, NO WAY! Francona can't hold a candle to Torre. And I really like the Sox but they won a series despite their Manager. For you to use the ALCS as a barometer is nuts- Torre lost games 4 and 5 with the Greatest reliever in the history of the game on the mound. He didn't have any starters for games 6 & 7 (Cashman again, not Torre's fault). He made the right moves. I imagine losing Game 7 of the 2001 series to the D-Backs was his fault too...Mariano blowing the save....Originally posted by 10DimeBryyes i do believe francona/little/you/me/spark/wayne(stoned) would have won as many WS titles as Torre. please take a good look @ Mr Torre track record before managing the yankees. then we will further this discussion. Please see NY mets,atl,st louisThree Jack's Record http://www.bettorschat.com/forums/sh...10#post1323910
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Fianlly a Red Sox fan that isnt as big of a dumbass as Bry.. I agree 100% with this statememntOriginally posted by savage1No one is perfect. Do you think Francona for example would have won as many WS as Torres had he been in his place, or coversely do you think Sox would have had a better chance of winning more WS with the likes of Torre of Grady Little or even Francona? I bet Torre would have had the smarts to take Pedro Martinez out when he was supposed to in that infamous game 7 of the 2003 playoffs, an error which ultimately cost the Sox the game and the series.
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Originally posted by Three JackDude, NO WAY! Francona can't hold a candle to Torre. And I really like the Sox but they won a series despite their Manager. For you to use the ALCS as a barometer is nuts- Torre lost games 4 and 5 with the Greatest reliever in the history of the game on the mound. He didn't have any starters for games 6 & 7 (Cashman again, not Torre's fault). He made the right moves. I imagine losing Game 7 of the 2001 series to the D-Backs was his fault too...Mariano blowing the save....
When did i ever say francona was better than torre? what i'm saying is torre isnt the 2nd coming. He isnt the best manager ever and 1000 wins is nothing to brag about with the amount of talent the players had. Bottom line. he is average manager, no more no less2013 NCAA POD Record
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This implies to me that he is as good as Torre. You are right, you never said better. But I don't think Tito on his best days is as good as Torre on his bad days.Originally posted by 10DimeBryyes i do believe francona/little/you/me/spark/wayne(stoned) would have won as many WS titles as Torre. please take a good look @ Mr Torre track record before managing the yankees. then we will further this discussion. Please see NY mets,atl,st louisThree Jack's Record http://www.bettorschat.com/forums/sh...10#post1323910
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I bet you that he would have known when to take pedro out in game 7 in 2003.. Thats what managing is all about knowing when to take your pitcher out,knowing when to pinch hit,knowing when to hit and run, knowing when to steal a base... Thats what managing is all about.. Doesnt matter if you have a 10 Billion Dollar salary or a 1,000 dollar salary that IMO is what makes a manager good not the number of wins he has and IMO Torre is a very very good manager and ranks in the top 10 of best managers of all time..Originally posted by 10DimeBryWhen did i ever say francona was better than torre? what i'm saying is torre isnt the 2nd coming. He isnt the best manager ever and 1000 wins is nothing to brag about with the amount of talent the players had. Bottom line. he is average manager, no more no less
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Thats not up to date on the Yankees because he hit win #1000 on Saturday.. He has 1,001 wins as a Yankees coachOriginally posted by wayne1218Joe Torre Managerial Record ............
Win/Loss/%
NewYorkY 982 634 .608
Atlanta 257 229 .529
St.Louis 351 354 .498
NewYorkM 286 420 .405
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Originally posted by wayne1218Joe Torre Managerial Record ............
Win/Loss/%
NewYorkY 982 634 .608
Atlanta 257 229 .529
St.Louis 351 354 .498
NewYorkM 286 420 .405
Thank you wayne. C what money buys You!!!! check mate i win..... this discussion is OVAHHHHHHHHHHH2013 NCAA POD Record
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Your right. I googled it out of curiousity and it's the 1st one i found. I'm sure the other 3 teams are right though!Originally posted by TMAC951Thats not up to date on the Yankees because he hit win #1000 on Saturday.. He has 1,001 wins as a Yankees coach
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So I guess money tells him when to take a player out of the game??? Or i guess its money that tells him who the best player is to replace one of his stars when they go down to injury?? Right?? Dude your a fucking dumbass plain and simple.. Look at all the injuries the Yanks had last season with Jeter, and the entire pitching staff.. I guess it was money that told Torre just who to put in their spots to win as many games as they did right?? Fucking dumbassOriginally posted by 10DimeBryThank you wayne. C what money buys You!!!! check mate i win..... this discussion is OVAHHHHHHHHHHH
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