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**vondie** · 02-17-2006, 01:01 PM

Well lets be clear on one thing, YOU are not paying their salaries. You are paying to watch them earn their salaries. as far as SS goes, I don't really like him and his one eye. he used to be alright but now he trys SO HARD to be ghetto.

**therealdeal** · 02-17-2006, 01:47 PM

you are paying there salary if no fans shows up there is no one there to watch them perform you think they make millions then no way.

**MB17** · 02-17-2006, 01:55 PM

I always get a laugh when people say that they are paying an athlete's salary. That works both ways, you know. Whatever your particular job may be, there are consumers somewhere that are directly responsible for you having a job. Yet, if one of those consumers "went off" on you, I'm quite sure yu wouldn't be sitting around saying, "well they have that right because if it wasn't for them, then I wouldn't have a job."

**JMR58** · 02-17-2006, 02:03 PM

The fans indirectly pay their salaries, to say we don't is absurd. If we didn't go to games, watch them on tv, or buy the merchandise....they wouldn't have the contracts they do. As for booing...I think it's alright, obscenities..no. I take my children to games from the AAA level to majors in all sports...I don't want another fan yelling obsenities around my son.

Are they trying, not always...should they report to camp in shape, should they play their hardest in a non contract year...of course they should, but not all do. Look at Shaq with the Lakers vs his first year with the heat (and I like Shaq), but he came into camp 50+lbs out of shape every year.

**molta02** · 02-17-2006, 02:09 PM

Stu says that "Not a single athelte out there isn't trying." I wonder if he remembers his fellow UNC boy Vince Carter and the act he pulled up in Toronto. That would classify not trying. BOOYEAH

**molta02** · 02-17-2006, 02:10 PM

Also, I don't have a problem with fans booing at all. Yelling obscentities is wrong, but just booing is fine IMO

**RJeremy** · 02-17-2006, 02:41 PM

I'm not bothered by it, and actually agree with him to a point

**Three Jack** · 02-17-2006, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by MB17

I always get a laugh when people say that they are paying an athlete's salary. That works both ways, you know. Whatever your particular job may be, there are consumers somewhere that are directly responsible for you having a job. Yet, if one of those consumers "went off" on you, I'm quite sure yu wouldn't be sitting around saying, "well they have that right because if it wasn't for them, then I wouldn't have a job."

I hate to tell you but you are about as wrong as I think Stu is...as a GM of a hotel and having been in hospitality for 16 yrs, I fully understand that the irate guest who is eating me for dinner when he is chewing me out pays my salary and the importance of making sure that we do everything we can to make their experience a pleasant one, no matter how challenging they may be too please. Having worked at The Plaza hotel for 10 yrs and dealing with some of the most discernable travellers in the world, getting chewed out was just about a daily occurance. So while others in my industry, and in customer service, may not have my mind set, I would prefer you don't lump me in with everyone else and make generalizations.

**Three Jack** · 02-17-2006, 02:53 PM

Originally posted by vondie

Well lets be clear on one thing, YOU are not paying their salaries. You are paying to watch them earn their salaries. as far as SS goes, I don't really like him and his one eye. he used to be alright but now he trys SO HARD to be ghetto.

Okay, where does the $1250 I pay for season tickets to the NY Giants go? Are you telling me that a portion of what I pay does not go to pay the players? If it doesn't, I'd like to know what I am paying for and then where do the owner's get the money to pay the players? It isn't all TV revenue and concessions....

**savage1** · 02-17-2006, 03:03 PM

Originally posted by molta02

Stu says that "Not a single athelte out there isn't trying." I wonder if he remembers his fellow UNC boy Vince Carter and the act he pulled up in Toronto. That would classify not trying. BOOYEAH

As much as I love the Red Sox, does not a fan like myself have a right to boo for example Manny Ramirez if he hits an easy grounder to the pitcher or second base and decides it is not worth running out, if he decides he doesn't want to dirty up his uniform by sliding into second base to try to break up a double play or by not sliding into homeplate on what could be a close play?

**Three Jack** · 02-17-2006, 03:05 PM

Savage, couldn't agree more.... I guess the line 'booing is classless' is really what ruffled my feathers. Namecalling- yes, that is classles sand gutless. But booing? And to say everyone is trying? We will never know the answer to that but there is no way that every athlete gives 100%, 100% of the time.

**BUD GREGG** · 02-17-2006, 03:09 PM

Hey Stuart As An Official For Baseball And Football How About Asking The Fans To Stop Booing Us?????????? Wake Up Stuart Its A Part Of The Game, Good Officials And Atheltes Knows It Goes With The Territory!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**Three Jack** · 02-17-2006, 03:11 PM

Originally posted by BUD GREGG

Hey Stuart As An Official For Baseball And Football How About Asking The Fans To Stop Booing Us?????????? Wake Up Stuart Its A Part Of The Game, Good Officials And Atheltes Knows It Goes With The Territory!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WOW..I think we have a scandal here, or maybe we can make one up! A working official on Bettorschat...hmmm.....

**savage1** · 02-17-2006, 03:16 PM

I can understand a little bit say in the NFL if on the last weekend of the season a team has clinched a playoff spot, and a starting player(even thought he may be in the game for only a short time) is extra cautious in the way he plays in order to avoid injury.
Above scenario would not apply as much in baseball because of the nature of the game.
For the most part though, players in all sports should try to give 100% especially in view of what they are paid.

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