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  • #16
    The only way of knowing whether the current scattergun approach is working is to POST ACCURATE RECORDS. Even when making a zillion plays, it's not that hard. Just add wins and losses and keep track of units and adjust the number to the previous day's record. If someone has time on their hands today, they could even go back and do it by going through all of his threads (of course, that would mean a lot of time on your hands).

    What I've noticed is that the people in his thread seem very frustrated which implies they are either:
    a) not winning; or
    b) not betting the plays at his suggested units; or
    c) Spiccoli (who always seems to be complaining about losing).

    It is supicious that he has kept track of his halftime picks but not the others. His record has to still be positive because he was so far up so I don't get why he'd stop posting records.

    I have never EVER seen in my gambling life seen somebody who can hit 65 percent betting the way he bets but I have to admit he has done shockingly well, for awhile at least. That's why it is in his own best interest and that of his followers to keep track of records. For me, it's a great tool of self-discipline and helps me keep my focus and keep track of my strengths and weaknesses.

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    • #17
      Nothing for Nothing but I really think if this keeps up he is not going to come back and post.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by gatorfan
        I'm not sure i understand why this thread is even here. (unless i missed the request for advice) Why not just let Hoops post his plays the way he wants to post them, and if you want to follow you can. You even have the option to play a *40 at 20 units if you want. You could even play just 1 or 2 of his games if that makes you feel better.

        I would hate for this guy who has done very well to stop posting beacuse he couldn't do it the way that makes him comfortable.

        just my 2 cents

        i think you're missing the point here. This isn't a thread to bash HJ by any means. This is more of a couple guys trying to help him out. He is a great capper, no one can take that away from him, but what we all saw that was so great in the beginning is NOT what he's been doing as of late. He has changed his style, # of plays, taken tons of halftime games which most people aren't around for anyway, etc., etc.

        I think the point of this thread was to just say calm down, get your head together, post a couple that you like, don't chase, and just have fun. Nothing more, nothing less. That's what this place is all about. This isn't like every other forum you go to, this is not only about winning some $$$$, but also about advise and help from a bunch of guys that are older, wiser, and more experienced than HJ and even myself.

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        • #19
          c) Spiccoli (who always seems to be complaining about losing).


          LOL

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          • #20
            that was kind of funny

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            • #21
              Words like "suspicious" carry an unpleasant and unwarranted implication.

              It's a lot of work handicapping, and it is presumptuous to tell him to keep records.

              The info is all there in the threads, and whoever is not lazy can do the work.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by geeze
                Words like "suspicious" carry an unpleasant and unwarranted implication.

                It's a lot of work handicapping, and it is presumptuous to tell him to keep records.

                The info is all there in the threads, and whoever is not lazy can do the work.


                DISAGREE! I got my balls busted for months about not keeping a thread, everyone from Frank to Spark to Wayne to about every member on here. So, now I keep a record, and no one questioned me since. I think the same goes for HJ

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                • #23
                  Don't you guys think you've beaten this dead horse enough already???? Let it go already.....

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by MB17
                    The interesting (and suprising) thing is that he's playing all of these plays, and he hasn't had a terrible day yet. Normally, when you chase (and it does seem like he's chasing), you have an o-fer or a one-fer day.

                    IF YOU FOLLOW HIS ORIGINAL PLAYS AND DON'T PLAY THE HALFTIME GAMES YOU HAVEN'T BEEN FARING VERY WELL AS OF LATE. i FOR ONE DO NOT SIT AT THE COMPUTER FOR HOURS TRYING TO CATCH ALL OF THE TOTALS AND LINES THAT ARE PUT OUT AT HALFTIME. STILL I AM A WINNER FOLLOWING HIS PLAYS BUT HAVE BEEN PLAYING HIM ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY FOR OVER A MONTH.

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                    • #25
                      IF YOU FOLLOW HIS ORIGINAL PLAYS AND DON'T PLAY THE HALFTIME GAMES YOU HAVEN'T BEEN FARING VERY WELL AS OF LATE.
                      That wasn't the point of my post. The point was that normally when you play a lot of games (which is what has happened over the last few days), you have one of those days where you go 1-9 or something like that. I'm just saying that I'm surpised that that hasn't happened.

                      As for just his original plays, I think the worst day he has had was a 2-4 day. ( I oculd be wrong).

                      I guess my thing is, even when he's had a rough day, he still hasn't had one of those TERRIBLE days that people normally have. Heck, even yesterday, if you played his parlays, you had a winning day. Even if you DIDN"T play the parlays or ANY of the second half lines, you only lost a little juice yesterday. In fact, after going back and looking at it, if you played the three 30* plays that he gave out at 4:30 pm eastern time yesterday, then you actually had a WINNING day on his normal plays.
                      Last edited by MB17; 01-21-2006, 11:32 AM.

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                      • #26
                        He has been trying to win these guys money, and has been on a slide of late....After a great run many here jumped on his bandwagon and after games lost, people have come and cried about losing alot of $$$ after the games..He probably is getting a little tired of the crying but has been trying to win it back for them.....He'll post his records I'm sure after he gets them together...

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                        • #27
                          I'll throw my 2cents in. I think Hoops has come under extreme pressure to post picks by guys begging him for a play. And YES, I'm one of those guys.

                          It's NOT fair to blame him. It has been rather fun posting and jumping all over his plays and following along. But the end result has been too many plays and we all know, in the long run, this spells doom.

                          Hoops can cap, but he needs to do it on his terms. If you go into one of his threads you'll see, "Hoops do you like this? or Hoops I need a play tonight, or what are we playing now?, or where are the second half plays tonight?"

                          Guys are all over him to produce and I AM just as guilty. And it seems like he has been more than fair about trying to please the crowds. Some of us are to blame for perpetuating this rut. The BLAME lies within US.

                          My suggestion, and I am going to honor this myself....Back off the man, let him cap a few games per night and maybe a 2nd half or two. But I'm sure this will fall upon deaf ears and some will ignore this and continue to hound until he gets fed up and moves on......

                          Hoops, you're a great capper in my book, just do what works and don't give in to the pressure to produce!

                          KAZ
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                          I'm just here so I won't get fined....

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Chuck E. Cheese
                            He has been trying to win these guys money, and has been on a slide of late....After a great run many here jumped on his bandwagon and after games lost, people have come and cried about losing alot of $$$ after the games..He probably is getting a little tired of the crying but has been trying to win it back for them.....He'll post his records I'm sure after he gets them together...

                            He has cost me a lot of money...

                            Of course i was usually betting against him in most games so i guess that's my fault
                            Good Luck to everyone
                            Adam

                            Richie: [after Gus hits a homerun] Wow and he did it without steroids.
                            Clark: What's steroids?
                            Richie: Something that makes your pee-pee smaller.
                            Clark: There must be steroids in macaroni!

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                            • #29
                              I like Hoops but i thought the Fairfiled pick was not a good one after reading his write up so I went against him. But I agree a record should be posted.
                              You can live with one lung

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by packer34
                                DIDO!
                                DIDO..........ame shit, people "feel" the need to control the quality and material poste in people post! Just listen to some of these replies like....."funny this post started, I was going to say the same thing but I was drinking for a few hours." What the fuck RJeremy...are you Hoopjunkie's dad? It's fucking comical!
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