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    I am trying to find the "true" odds for someone hitting 21 in a row. To me it wouldn't make a difference if all in one night or over 21 days as far as "true" odds, even though I would think it would be easier for it to be done over 21 days (more choices). At first I thought of 2 to the 21st power which is a pinch under 2.1 million to one. But my math isn't right I think. Any number crunchers with help? Thanks and good luck all...
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    I took Statistics in college over 20 years ago. There are many probability formulas. Just can't remember any that would fit. But it's a lot more involved than you think. Sorry not any help! Maybe try a chat site full of Math Geeks?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by capperjohn1
      I am trying to find the "true" odds for someone hitting 21 in a row. To me it wouldn't make a difference if all in one night or over 21 days as far as "true" odds, even though I would think it would be easier for it to be done over 21 days (more choices). At first I thought of 2 to the 21st power which is a pinch under 2.1 million to one. But my math isn't right I think. Any number crunchers with help? Thanks and good luck all...
      I think your right. 2,097,152 to 1
      MLB (2014): (3-4) -.9 units

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      • #4
        I have a question?
        I have taken Stats over 30 years ago but I believe you are leaving something out. Unlike flipping a coin which has two possible consequences- hitting an ATS play has three consequences or outcomes. A tie is an outcome and blows the probability formula above to less than accurate.
        x) 3 outcomes per play
        y) 21 correct plays
        This is a 1/3 chance of hitting the play. Since there is 63 (21x 3) separate outcomes of 21 plays, it therefore seems logical to place this in the formula. using your formula 3 to the 21st power.

        Now, I understand that we could still look at a loss or a win scenario since ties are considered losses. In that case, forget my comments.
        "The range of what we think and do is limited by what we fail to notice.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Spearit
          I have a question?
          I have taken Stats over 30 years ago but I believe you are leaving something out. Unlike flipping a coin which has two possible consequences- hitting an ATS play has three consequences or outcomes. A tie is an outcome and blows the probability formula above to less than accurate.
          x) 3 outcomes per play
          y) 21 correct plays
          This is a 1/3 chance of hitting the play. Since there is 63 (21x 3) separate outcomes of 21 plays, it therefore seems logical to place this in the formula. using your formula 3 to the 21st power.

          Now, I understand that we could still look at a loss or a win scenario since ties are considered losses. In that case, forget my comments.
          In sports betting a push is considered a NO PLAY. Therefore, the correct calculation is 2 to the 21st.

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          • #6
            Assuming the push as a no bet, I am still questioning whether it's 2 to the 21st power. Because the "true" odds for a parley are 3:1, not 4:1. Team a vs Team B:outcomes
            Team A (W) Team B (W)
            Team A (W) Team B (L)
            Team A (L) Team B (W)
            Team A (L) Team B (L)

            Therefore 4 outcomes, 3 make a loss, 1 a winner. 3:1 "true" odds. That is not 2 to the 2nd power.(4)
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