Going on Strike until Grossman is named starter!

[djnamttor]

That article posted makes me want to stay away from the Bears in general. It seems there is WAY too much finger pointing for a 9-3 team having their best season in who knows how long.........it's craziness......these guys can't lose focus and stay sharp and it sounds like that is exactly what is happening......

[wayne1218]

...but your also not wanting to break up the chemistry of a 9-3 team.

John, The only chemistry they have had is on Defense. Yes, they have had their moments a few times on offense but they have no chemistry. My agrument for them being booted early is their offense, plain & Simple. It's so bad that you simply won't beat the teams you will need to without any help from them.

I think Orton may be the future but i say throw Rex in! What's the worst he could do ... Seriously? Orton's stats have been mind boggling at times and i don't mean in a good way.

Throw Rex a Bone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JBC13]

It's a tough call IMO, i mean they are 9-3 with oron at qb. I like the if aint broke dont fix it approach. Rook do you think grossman is that much better? Orton is not plying well but he is not making key mistakes to lose the game. Grossman who has not played in a while could make alot of errors due to not having played for a while. If it were me (and by no means am i a head coach) i would leave orton in until he costs my team a game. Just my opinion, but like i said it's a tough call.

[TheRook]

That article posted makes me want to stay away from the Bears in general. It seems there is WAY too much finger pointing for a 9-3 team having their best season in who knows how long.........it's craziness......these guys can't lose focus and stay sharp and it sounds like that is exactly what is happening......

That's a very good point....

I only disagree a little bit when I say that I don't think it bothers the defense one bit...and for 8 straight games its been the defense that has made the plays to win the game for them.

Maybe it'll be good for Orton......

[TheRook]

It's a tough call IMO, i mean they are 9-3 with oron at qb. I like the if aint broke dont fix it approach. Rook do you think grossman is that much better? Orton is not plying well but he is not making key mistakes to lose the game. Grossman who has not played in a while could make alot of errors due to not having played for a while. If it were me (and by no means am i a head coach) i would leave orton in until he costs my team a game. Just my opinion, but like i said it's a tough call.

I agree 100% JBC....I applaud Orton for what he's done to NOT lose the game for the Bears in this streak...

But wouldn't it be nice if you were a Bears fan to see both sides of the ball contribute? It can't be all one sided.

If Orton is not doing the job...then a change needs to be made. I think you can safely say that he's not been doing his job the last few weeks...maybe even months. Why wait until you LOSE a game that you might very well need for home field advantage?

I think one half is good enough if indeed Rex is ready to play.

[wayne1218]

I also get the feeling that the defense is starting to question whether or not the offense will ever help them out. I don't care what they tell the media. They have to talk about it.

I bet is Rex was named the starter this week that the defense and everyone around him on offense would come out flying, hitting, and pumped up to be there.

I'm just not sure that attitude will be there with Kyle.

[JBC13]

I agree 100% JBC....I applaud Orton for what he's done to NOT lose the game for the Bears in this streak...

But wouldn't it be nice if you were a Bears fan to see both sides of the ball contribute? It can't be all one sided.

If Orton is not doing the job...then a change needs to be made. I think you can safely say that he's not been doing his job the last few weeks...maybe even months. Why wait until you LOSE a game that you might very well need for home field advantage?

I think one half is good enough if indeed Rex is ready to play.

Orton does need to step up because come playoff time the offense will have to produce but i would just be afraid of grossman making key mistakes. If they are losing this weekend i think they should give rex a shot.

[CHICAGODOG]

We drafted GROSSMAN in the 1st round . I know he is better than Orton !!!!!!If he can stay healthy ???.

[wayne1218]

It's a tough call IMO, i mean they are 9-3 with oron at qb. I like the if aint broke dont fix it approach. Rook do you think grossman is that much better? Orton is not plying well but he is not making key mistakes to lose the game. Grossman who has not played in a while could make alot of errors due to not having played for a while. If it were me (and by no means am i a head coach) i would leave orton in until he costs my team a game. Just my opinion, but like i said it's a tough call.

I would have to disagree a little Jeff. Yes they are (9-3) and Orton has started. I agree with that but he (Orton) has not played a "Clean" game in 5 weeks. Last week he threw for 68 yards with a fumble and a pick. 2 Weeks ago he had a TD and another pick along with 2 fumbles (Neither were lost) and 134 passing yards. 3 Weeks ago he had a TD and a Pick with another whopping 136 yards. 4 Weeks ago he had no TD and yup, another pick and 68 whole passing yards. 5 Weeks ago he had 1 TD, 2 picks and another fumble while throwing for ... You guessed it, 137 yards. This team is 90% Defense and 10% Thomas Jones!

The League has caught up to him quickly and he grabbed some great experience but he is a "Rookie" and it shows.

Put Rex in!!!

[10DimeBry]

with that bears D i could QB that team to a 9-3 record.

[10DimeBry]

Grossman elevated to Orton's backup

December 7, 2005

BY RICK GANO ASSOCIATED PRESS



Their eight-game winning streak and top-rated defense were shoved to the background Wednesday when the Chicago Bears moved Rex Grossman up the depth chart to No. 2 quarterback behind rookie starter Kyle Orton.

Could a change be in the works? A quarterback controversy on a 9-3 team?

Grossman, the starter before breaking his ankle in a preseason game Aug. 12, has been the emergency third quarterback the past two weeks. Now he's one play away from replacing Orton, who's struggling and has a quarterback rating of 60.2.

Deemed healthy, Grossman also got limited practice time Wednesday with the first unit as the Bears got ready for Sunday's game in Pittsburgh.

"Obviously I want to play. There's no one in this locker room that doesn't want to play. At the same time I don't want to be a distraction to the team, I'm just here trying to do the best I can do. Whatever they tell me to do, I'm going to do," Grossman said.

"I'm physically able to do everything that I need to do to play. ... I just know, it's pretty obvious we need to get better in the passing game."

Grossman underwent surgery after breaking his ankle in the second preseason game at St. Louis-- his second major injury in as many seasons. After starting the final three games as a rookie in 2003, Grossman's second season ended when he tore the ACL in his right knee on a touchdown run in Week 3 against Minnesota.

Orton has been the starter during the team's longest winning streak in 20 years, one built on defense and a running game. He connected on just 6-for-17 passes last week for 68 yards in a victory over Green Bay, and his critics are mounting.

Orton, a fourth-round pick, said the criticism doesn't bother him and he's not taking it personally. And, he added, it's not all his fault.

"It's just time for everybody to step up. Even if the look isn't there, just go ahead and make the play," Orton said.

"Just beat your guy and just make the play. If that's me throwing a perfect ball, than that's me throwing a perfect ball. That's just what we have to do."

Wide receiver Muhsin Muhammad was held without a catch Sunday against the Packers, the first time he's been shut out since 2002. Muhammad said not catching any passes wasn't all his doing, either.

"I don't think anyone expected Kyle to be the guy doing what he's done," Muhammad said. "Leading us to victories, or should I say not losing any games for us. ... We lost our starting quarterback, and that has been the place where of late we have struggled. I think Kyle can admit he struggled in the last game playing. Everyone expected Rex to be back at the end of the season. I think the most unexpected thing is for us to be 9-3 without Rex."

Offensive coordinator Ron Turner said he doesn't expect Orton-- who's struggled with his accuracy-- to be looking over his shoulder.

"But I think he knows there's probably a little more sense of urgency right now. Rex is back. He was our starter coming into the year," Turner said.

"He is back, he's healthy and he's getting a little bit of work. But we still have a lot of confidence in Kyle. He didn't play, obviously, his best game on Sunday. But to be honest with you, there's some other guys who didn't either."

Grossman, admitting it was tough to answer questions with Orton at a nearby locker, characterized his relationship with Orton this way: "We pretty kind of let each other kind of do our own thing and not talk a whole lot about football."

But even though he hasn't played in a regular-season game in well over a year, Grossman was confident he could give the offense a lift if he got the chance.

"If you're asking me if I feel like I could throw for more yards (68) than that, yes I could," he said. "But at the same time I'm not doing it. ... I don't want to be sitting here saying, 'Yeah, I can do better than that.' At the same time it's the ultimate team sport, it's not just the quarterback."

[JBC13]

I would have to disagree a little Jeff. Yes they are (9-3) and Orton has started. I agree with that but he (Orton) has not played a "Clean" game in 5 weeks. Last week he threw for 68 yards with a fumble and a pick. 2 Weeks ago he had a TD and another pick along with 2 fumbles (Neither were lost) and 134 passing yards. 3 Weeks ago he had a TD and a Pick with another whopping 136 yards. 4 Weeks ago he had no TD and yup, another pick and 68 whole passing yards. 5 Weeks ago he had 1 TD, 2 picks and another fumble while throwing for ... You guessed it, 137 yards. This team is 90% Defense and 10% Thomas Jones!

The League has caught up to him quickly and he grabbed some great experience but he is a "Rookie" and it shows.

Put Rex in!!!

damn wayne you are on top of your stats..lol. I cant argue with those numbers, i just have a hard time thinking he should get benched until he costs his team a game. But i do think he should be put on a VERY short leash because he has not been putting up good numbers. We will see what happens sunday!

[10DimeBry]

IMO kyle horton should just come out take 3 knees and they should punt the ball away. Let DAAAAAAAAAAA bears D do the scoring.

[10DimeBry]

kyle horton and that bears offense is so brutal they couldnt score with a fist full of 100's in a las vegas whore house.

[TheRook]

kyle horton and that bears offense is so brutal they couldnt score with a fist full of 100's in a las vegas whore house.

They couldn't score with a fist full of pardons in a women's prison.

yada yada yada.....