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Has anyone seen any of the divisional series prices yet?
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I'm hearing Boston is -145.
I'll be on the White Sox in that series.
1st game matchup...
Clement vs Contreras
big advantage to Chicago there.
Contreras was top pitcher in 2nd half.
10-2.
His splitter is sinking like Bruce Sutter's split-finger pitch (remember that great pitch?)....and he's got a 95mph fastball.
game 2......
David Wells vs Mark Buehrle
advantage Chicago again....Buehrle has regained his great 1st half form....he was AL starter in All-Star game.
Haven't been able to find the others...
...good luck J -
prices........
1003 Boston Red Sox -148 Risk To Win
1004 Chicago White Sox +138 Risk To Win
10:00 AM 1005 Houston Astros +101 Risk To Win
1006 Atlanta Braves -111 Risk To Win
1007 San Diego Padres +321 Risk To Win
1008 St. Louis Cardinals -351 Risk To Win
1001 New York Yankees -155 Risk To Win
1002 LAA Angels +145 Risk To WinComment
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love the white sox and astros...probably take the angels, too. need pitching in the playoffs.Comment
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thanks shortyComment
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It is interesting(but not that surprising) that in American League playoffs both teams which open at home and have game 5 played in their ballparks are fairly significant dogs for the series.
That being said and even if I am biased, Contreras never had much luck with Yankees in beating Red sox especially in Fenway; although I don't have the stats in front me and can't remember, I assume he pitched better for them this year as a member of the White Sox against the Red Sox.
Does anyone have the stats on that? One of the reasons I don't remember is that I was in Colombia for the White Sox visit to Boston in August.Last edited by savage1; 10-02-2005, 10:53 PM.Comment
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Good pitchin' beats good hittin' on most days. Ya must look at the whole staff from starters to pen. That statement should carry more weight in a 7 game series versus a 5 game series. With that being said, I see pretty good value in the White Sox and Angels for the series. I think they both advance, but what the hell do I know. Wait and see what Chuck Lazaar says and then place your bets."33"Comment
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the white sox and angels have to be good plays for $$$..."MONEY WON IS TWICE AS SWEET AS MONEY EARNED!"Comment
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I think it imperative that both the White Sox and Anaheim get good pitching because both Red Sox and Yankees with their high powered offensives would probably prevail easily in a hitting type series.Originally posted by HOKIE BIRDComment
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you are correct sir....lol.....White Sox are only good for 4 or 5.
Contreras never pitched as well as he has in this 2nd half....
...he went from 5th starter....
almost being traded....
to being a dominant pitcher ,once his sinker got some bite to it.
BTW...one hell of an interesting life story.
Defected from Cuban National team (he was called "The Dominator" by Castro) when the team was in Mexico.
Then, his wife and small children escaped Cuba on an overcrowded boat in shark infested waters.
Claims to be 37...but could be in his 40's.Comment
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The Yankees traded Contreras for more than simply this, BUT the main reason he isnt wearing pinstriped is cos he just got shelled everytime he pitched against Boston. Now he gets his chance with Chicago.
His out pitch is what he calls a fork ball, we refer to as a split, it is nastier than I have ever seen in his time in NY. He deserves to be their Game 1 starter. How we'll see how he reacts to the stage..."MONEY WON IS TWICE AS SWEET AS MONEY EARNED!"Comment
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I have always liked Contreras;as you probably know, the Red sox were in hot pursuit of him also.Comment
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Contreras faced Boston 1 time this year and beat them. Decent outing....6.2 IP, 8 H, 3 ER, 2 BB, 6 Ks.
The key for Contreras is his walks. Check this out...1st half of the year, 4-5, 4.26 ERA, 48 walks in 101 IP. 2nd half, 11-2, 2.96 ERA, 27 walks in 103 IP. However, in 2002-2004, he was 1-4 with a 13.50 ERA vs. Boston, with 19 walks in 21 IP. He obviously is going to need to throw strikes and not walk people. It's okay for Manny or Ortiz to hit solo shots, but start walking Damon/Renteria/etc, and you dig your own grave.
I would assume the White Sox will start Garcia in Fenway, more so because the guy has an unbelievable record in day games and pitches much better on the road. Check these numbers:
Garcia Home:
4-5 4.38 ERA 1.39 WHIP 1.76 K/BB ratio
Garcia Away:
10-3 3.40 ERA 1.13 WHIP 3.59 K/BB ratio
Last 3 years during day games he's 19-4 with a 3.00 ERA, in only 30 starts.
Garcia is 3-1 vs. Boston last 3 years, but hasn't faced them this year.
Buehrle has struggled vs. Boston this year, but very good career-wise against them. And he's been lights-out at home...10-2 with a 2.48 ERA.
The White Sox have always hit Clement and Wakefield hard, and knocked Schilling around earlier this year, although he has had their number in the past.
For as much crap as the White Sox get about having no offense, they still managed to hit the 5th most HRs in the league, somehow hitting even more than Boston, which really surprised me.
I think it'll be a good series, but I think the White Sox bullpen is the big difference in this series.Comment
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Playing the Padres at +320for the series is well worth the shot. I live in St Louis and I am a Cardinal fan, but... and there always is a but in life, this pitching staff (starters and relievers) have not pitched well the last few weeks. Maybe it doesn't mean alot since they have not really played in a meaningful game in quite some time now. LaRussa pet Matt Morris will get a start and has not looked good for a long time. Lefties out of the pen could be a real problem. Ray King has been god awful all year. If La Russa chooses to go with him in key situations (and he will), Cards could be in trouble.
If pitching comes thru, Cards could sweep. But a series wager on the Padres at the price is not a bad bet.Last edited by Ram Fan; 10-03-2005, 12:29 AM.Comment
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Hoosier Daddy-You make some very good points. And I would be dumb to try to minimize importance of Red Sox pitching, because as you say/imply the White Sox are no slouches and will hit Red sox pitching if it is not good.
I personally think it will go five games, and as you say the White Sox bullpen is better than that of Red Sox;may the better team win.Comment
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