Man, Pitt

[ChiefsFAN]

its crazy how bad this game is going!!
IF pit isn't the WORST team in NCAA football, it has to be the biggest/worst turn around from a team that won a conference the year before!!!

[griffey_mojo]

And this will be a picture of the Kaptain and his men after this game ... If you look good you can see our Kaptain ....

HAHAHA Thats hilarious Spark!

[synch22]

I hate to admit shit but we went from top 5 team in the country my Jr year to the shits my senior year, we lost way too many guys it happens and as a player it sucks

we still missed a bowl game sr year by a fuckin missed fg.. i still want to kick that guys ass

[vinnyvegas]

The main reason I couldn't take them...I knew this & refused to take them...didn't think they would make Rutgers look so good...LOL

[RJeremy]

spark,

thats funny as shit. glad i can laugh at this. i'm in NO way a Pitt fan having gone to WVU, but i bet on them tonight, and i can't believe i did

[Spark]

I am glad you can laugh at it also RJ ... I mean no harm buddy ...

[TheRook]

Take it from a Bear fan ... I have said this many many times before on this forum ... he is the worst coach in foots .. I can never understand how he keeps a job ...


How "Wanny" Ruined the Bears in the 1990's


Welcome Dolphin Fans. It is now October 2004, three years after I wrote this article. My disdain for Dave Wannstedt has mellowed, largely because the Chicago Bears organization has not made the proper decisions to make the team any better than it was under Dandy Dave. Unfortunately for Wanny and Dolphin fans, the prophecies I declared here in 2001 indeed have come true. But I'm no longer spiteful, mainly, I feel sorry for you and he. As a Dolphin fan recently pointed out to me, the "Peter Principle" has been validated in Miami without a doubt. Enjoy this forward-looking historical article.

It is January 6, 2001, the day that Dave Wannstedt attempts to win his second playoff game-one more than he was able to win in his illustrious six-year career as Chicago Bears head coach. As I watched Wanny's Dolphins losing last week to Indianapolis with less than two minutes remaining in the game, I couldn't help feeling sorry for himas he stood there with his classic puzzled, frustrated look. I'm a fairly sensitive guy, and my human side tells me not to hold a grudge against this person. However, for several reasons, I can't at this point forgive Dave Wannstedt for his role in the demise of the Chicago Bears that we have suffered through for much of the last seven years. Read on for a summary of his "successes" in Chicago, and one fan's reasons for not being able to forgive at this point.

Wannstedt was the hottest head coaching prospect in the NFL in January 1993. To the suprise of Bear fans, Michael McCaskey was determined to hire the best available prospect. As Wannstedt was deciding between the Bears job and that of the New York Giants, the decision came down to personnel power. Giant General Manager George Young would not give up his control over personnel, so McCaskey promised it to Wannstedt. As a result, he took the Bears' offer, and became the eleventh coach of the Chicago Bears. It is documented that Wannstedt took the job because of personnel control, a fact that he currently denies. Further proof lies in the fact that during the '93 draft, Wannstedt wanted to take receiver Curtis Conway, while personnel boss Bill Tobin was sold on O.J. McDuffie. McCaskey sided with Wannstedt, and Tobin resigned.

In 1993 and 1994, Wannstedt did an admirable job, leading the team to a two-game improvement in '93, and a playoff berth and victory over Minnesota in '94. During these years, most in Chicago gave full confidence and credit to Wannstedt. In fact, one organization named Wannstedt Coach of the Year for the '94 season. Perhaps the first sign of Wannstedt's demise came prior to the 1995 season. As a way to get his young linemen Alonzo Spellman, Carl Simpson, and John Thierry on the field, Wannstedt traded consistent defensive end Trace Armstrong to Miami for second and third round picks, which turned out to be Todd Sauerbrun and Evan Pilgrim. With the same linebackers and secondary, Chicago's defense dropped from 5th against the pass in '94 to 27th in '95, causing the team to miss the playoffs due to several nightmarish defensive performances.

Prior to the 1996 season, Wannstedt proclaimed that "all the pieces were in place" for a Super Bowl run. Wanny had drafted Walt Harris, a promising young cornerback, in the first round, made Bryan Cox the highest-paid Bears player ever, and re-signed Alonzo Spellman instead of Jeff Graham. After the last preseason, Wannstedt cut popular and reliable kicker Kevin Butler in favor of Carlos Huerta, a free agent that could not latch on with any other team. Huerta promptly missed three quarters of his attempts in the first two games, and was replaced. Wannstedt had stated that Huerta "easily outkicked" Butler during the preseason, and it was precisely this time that Wannstedt's reputation for being dishonest with players began. Butler was never treated fairly in the competition, Wannstedt's words contradicted his actions, and players began to mistrust his word. Early during the 1996 campaign plays host to another one of Wanny's current denials. QB Erik Kramer smashed most Bears records in his fabulous 1995 season. However, for the first three games of 1996, he was not the same player. He had lost his top receiver in Jeff Graham (over 1,300 yards in '95) because Wannstedt chose to sign Alonzo Spellman to a big contract as well. Kramer had thrown more interceptions than touchdowns (he threw 29 TD's to 10 INT's in '95) in '96, and was lost for the season with a neck injury after game three. Recently from an interview in Miami, Wannstedt was asked what happened in Chicago. His comments were: "We were poised for a Super Bowl run in '96, then Erik Kramer broke his neck, and that ended it." Wanny, Erik Kramer would have never led you to a Super Bowl in '96. Your decision to keep Huerta, and him missing two of three field goals in Washington in a 10-3 loss, leading to a 1-3 start, had more to do with your demise than Kramer. But you claim that that was the sole reason for your failure here.

Beginning in the Spring of 1997, Wannstedt's mistakes began to intensify, leading to the "Wannstedt Death Spiral" of '97 and '98. He orchestrated the trading of the Bear's first round pick (11th overall) for QB Rcik Mirer of Seattle. Mirer couldn't beat out Kramer in training camp, and was cut after one terrible season. Bryan Cox became a nightmare on the sidelines, drawing many unsportsmanlike conduct penalties, and was also cut before the '98 season. These two moves, along with others, crippled the Bear's salary cap situation until after the '99 campaign. In 1998, Wannstedt was irritated with Curtis Enis's holdout in training camp, and benched the draft's fifth pick until the latter part of the season. During his first start, Enis tore his ACL, and has never been the same.

Now, for a few reasons we can not forgive. During the news conference announcing Wannstedt's firing, the coach made several comments that still weigh on my mind. When asked to reflect on some of the things that caused his dismissal, Wannstedt's first reason was: "Probably staying with the Super Bowl players too long. You know, the Keith Van Hornes', the Steve McMichaels', the Richard Dents'. I wanted to keep them because of the history, but staying with them put me a year behind." For the record, McMichael and Dent were two of Wannstedt's few bright spots in 1993, and he let all three go after one year. This was not a contribution to his failure. Recently, Wannstedt has stated that he "never wanted personnel control in Chicago. It has been proven that he did. When asked about the Rick Mirer trade this year, Wannstedt has stated that "All of us in Chicago approved the Mirer deal, it wasn't just me."

So I currently watch the Dolphins, and hear the whole league rave about what a great coach Dave Wannstedt is, and how none of the problems in Chicago were his fault, I remember not to feel sorry for him as I watch him lose. As sick as I, and many Bears fans are, of our current coach, at least he has admitted many of his mistakes this year. Wannstedt still denies them. As the national media adopts him as their darling, those of us in Chicago that saw him take apart this team have a good feeling that it will happen again.

God that is SO true. How many f'ing times would we have to hear "The pieces are almost in place"

I feel no pain for Pitt....they should have know what they were getting themselves into.

[Spark]

Thanks for the e-mail John ... Yes!!!!

[aces r wild]

And to compilment Wanstedt, no one has mentioned his offensive coord. Matt Cavanuagh(Balt. Ravens off. coord. last couple years)

[frankb03]

And to compilment Wanstedt, no one has mentioned his offensive coord. Matt Cavanuagh(Balt. Ravens off. coord. last couple years)

He was mentioned in another thread title

[RJeremy]

Pitt throws another pick. hahahahahaha. pitt is fuckin horrid!

[Pitt37]

I know alot of you have bashed Pitt and Wannstedt. You guys have to realize he has no offensive or defensive line. He is trying to play power football with Harris's recruits that were recruited to run the west coast offense. Aslong as they are able to keep their recruits, Pitt is going to have a top 10 maybe top 5 recruiting class next year. Give Wannstedt a few years and he will be contending for a national championship.

However, you are right they do stink this year. But patience is a virtue.

[TwoTonTony]

Pitt could be the worst team in NCAA football. I dare anyone to tell me someone that's worse......

I feel like a dumb fuck for taking them and even more embarrased that Wanstedt went to my highschool

i feel even dumber...i doubled my bet!!!

[TwoTonTony]

I know alot of you have bashed Pitt and Wannstedt. You guys have to realize he has no offensive or defensive line. He is trying to play power football with Harris's recruits that were recruited to run the west coast offense. Aslong as they are able to keep their recruits, Pitt is going to have a top 10 maybe top 5 recruiting class next year. Give Wannstedt a few years and he will be contending for a national championship.

However, you are right they do stink this year. But patience is a virtue.

why not cater your offense to your personnel???? also they were ranked in the top 20 preseason...so someone thought they had talent.....Bottom line...wannstedt has stunk up every team he has touched...he is the king of mediocrity!!!

[ChiefsFAN]

I hated ricky williams for turning his back and leaving the NFL. Watching how awful Pitt is makes me realize that maybe Ricky is alot smarter than I thought!!