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  • Who Loses First- Spurrier or Wannstedt

    This a prop bet- Who loses first - Spurrier or Wannstedt.
    Univ. of South Carolina plays Central Fla in SC in a nationally televised game on Sept 1st.. Granted- that looks to be a win.
    Then South Carolina travels to Georgia Sept 10 and I will conclude that Georgia wins this one.

    Now Pitt plays Notre Dame on Sept. 3 and then at Ohio. Lets concentrate on Notre Dame and this is where it gets interesting.

    Notre Dame is 7-2 ATS in the last nine against Pitt.
    Notre Dame with its famed Head Coach (NE Patriots Offensive Genuis) Charlie Weis returns 11 offensive starters. However, he retains only 3 defensive starters.

    Pitt has Head Coach (Miami Dolphins Head Coach) Dave Wannstedt at the helm. He retains 9 offensive and 7 Defensive Backs.

    More info:

    NOTRE DAME: It’s hard to believe that the shine on the Notre Dame program following the 2002 season has worn off so quickly. Eleven wins in the next 24 games will do to that here. Failure is unacceptable in South Bend, so Charlie Weis will be under intense scrutiny as he begins his tenure as coach. The former OC of the Super Bowl Champion Patriots inherits a team that he should be able to work with, at least offensively. The Irish welcome back 10 starters there, including QB Brady Quinn, who has shown flashes of brilliance in his first two years. He is joined by the full compliment of linemen and a talented set of skill players. Defensively questions abound as only three starters return from a unit that was tough as nails against the run but blistered through the air. With the fourth toughest schedule in the country awaiting, earning a bowl bid is a lofty yet attainable goal.


    PITTSBURGH: Pittsburgh was the fortunate winner of the Big East “BCS millions” lottery, emerging as the winner of the four team first place tie-break in the conference standings. Not to say it wasn’t deserving, but any team that ranks 74th in the country in both offense and defense really isn’t BCS caliber. Still, you play the hand you’re dealt, and the Panthers parlayed it into a nice payout by winning six of their last seven regular season games. Ironically, even the school’s first Big East title wasn’t enough to avoid a coaching change as Dave Wannstedt replaces Walt Harris. He inherits a pretty strong team that had some good things emerge over the course of 2004. QB Tyler Palko’s development into a star was the most noteworthy. In all, 16 starters return, including now junior Palko. Wannstedt’s first season in the college ranks figures to be a success.

    Pitt is ranked 23rd- do they win?. If they win- then the answer is no doubt Spurrier who loses first to Georgia. Oh Now what of Ohio. Well - good team last year and Pitt has to travel there a day earlier than Spurrier meets up with Georgia.
    Tough Bet- but a good sampling of the B/C members could give us the right answer.
    Last edited by Spearit; 08-29-2005, 12:59 PM.
    "The range of what we think and do is limited by what we fail to notice.

  • #2
    Wanstedt blows he will lose first

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    • #3
      Thanx JBC13-- for that I will bet everything on Wannstedt losing first--- sheeesh come on guys- a little thinking is all it takes here- Spurrier is faced with sanctions- Pitt appears to be a solid team. Do they beat Notre Dame?
      "The range of what we think and do is limited by what we fail to notice.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Spearit
        Thanx JBC13-- for that I will bet everything on Wannstedt losing first--- sheeesh come on guys- a little thinking is all it takes here- Spurrier is faced with sanctions- Pitt appears to be a solid team. Do they beat Notre Dame?
        Thats my opinion, wanstedt is not a good coach and i feel that they will not beat notre dame.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by JBC13
          Wanstedt blows he will lose first
          No love for wannstedt? I think he is a great fit for pitt. Good defensive minded coach.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by screwtape
            No love for wannstedt? I think he is a great fit for pitt. Good defensive minded coach.
            He is a very laid back coach at least he was in the NFL, I just think Notre Dame is the better team in that game.

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            • #7
              Pitt will beat ND no doubt about it. ND is still a year or 2 away from contending for anything.

              Georgia will bury SC watch. You think Georgia doesnt remember the GA/Florida games when Steve-o was coaching??? and his style. Bet spurrier to lose 1st and pick yourself up some $$$$
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              • #8
                Wanstedt is a good coach. I think he'll be good for Pitt

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by RJeremy
                  Wanstedt is a good coach. I think he'll be good for Pitt

                  i agree, and pitt has been a decent program lately and should beat ND IMO
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                  • #10
                    UCF won 0 games last year. I wouldn't be surprised if they gave S.C. a run for their money first game of the season. Being on ESPN I feel the Knights will have something to prove. Both UCF and USF are up-incoming teams only they don't get the publicity of the other Florida schools. Spurrier loses first!

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                    • #11
                      My totally honest opinion is that you cannot count on either coach to have that good or a bad opening few games. I think it's almost as close to a red or black kind of gamble you can get. I say this because I see fines/sec violations from the Lou Holtz era and and such on spurriers end and the fact that ND could win easily or get blown out by an up and down pitt team. If someone finds something really convincing, I'm willing to change my mind, but I"m leaning toward Spurrier being the first to lose. as ND is in free fall itself (i.e. do we remember the "emergency meeting" ND board to fire their coach after a bad loss. ND has got to face the facts that the young kids don't associate their program with fball excellence, and it has been harder every year for them to recruit). I go with SC losing first, possibly even their first game. Sorry to my Gamecocks friends... just the way I feel. I went to Vandy, and we almost beat ND a few years ago and I've personally seen us beat SC! Gone are the days when a yard crew walkon can dominate in the last three plays.
                      thoughts?
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                      • #12
                        Did you end up taking anybody??

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                        • #13
                          Since I know Spurrier pretty well from down here in the swamp- I can see he does not have the quality of kids to back up his offensive goals. I also know he has great odds to beat a fine Georgia squad. I believe the game ND and Pitt will be close- but I give the edge the Pitt here. Spurrier receives the first loss in my book.
                          "The range of what we think and do is limited by what we fail to notice.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Spearit
                            Since I know Spurrier pretty well from down here in the swamp- I can see he does not have the quality of kids to back up his offensive goals. I also know he has great odds to beat a fine Georgia squad. I believe the game ND and Pitt will be close- but I give the edge the Pitt here. Spurrier receives the first loss in my book.
                            GL to you if you place a bet on it!!

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                            • #15
                              Spurrier will lose 1st

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