Wanna go against the public?

[wizardofoddz]

http://www.sportsinsights.com

[voskuhl43]

that site is fraudulent

I've been logging them for a while now and their data doesn't seem to concure with line movement. I think it's more because they base their "results" on number of bets and not amount of money placed. The amount placed is a better representation of how the public thinks and more importantly, the emotional preparation of the teams involved.

[XXX]

Post caught my eye. I know some who have used that site before as well. Theyve been disappointed as well. However, if you wanna follow number of bets you can do it for free by going to various sites. So, why pay?

I agree with Voskul. It comes down to amount of money on a side. But, even with that it will ALWAYS vary from sportsbook to sportsbook, from bookie to bookie...there is no exact way of knowing where the public is 100% and there never will be unless someone has access to every sportsbook in the world "knowing" the amounts of money. But, amount of bets can give you an idea. I personally agree with Volkuh that it comes to line movements and money. Even with that fading the public doesn't mean you'll win. There are so many games in every sport, so it comes down which ones to fade and which ones to stay away from. But, fading has been around since sports gambling has been around. If it was a gold method every one would be living in opulence. So, it comes down to everyone having a system.

Look at Wayne. He doesnt care where public action is. Many pros dont care about it either. They try to master the art of finding value in lines and finding the best situation for a certain team. And Wayne week after week has proven to beat the spread in every sport. I guess what ever system or belief you have, if you work hard at it and educate yourself you can win. I have been gambling and doing this for many many many years, and I havent seen many people as insightful and educated as Wayne. In baseball knowledge is everything and being as insightful as he is; my bet is he will continue success. If you know a certain pitcher in a situation, it is hard to lose. Just my opinions. If you guys need a bunch of free sites to follow number consensus I can make a list...Best of luck

[wizardofoddz]

It's not so much fading the public. It's more of staying away from hi profile games. It's true you are seeing number of bets, not dollar amounts. It's good to see when a team is being bet and the line is moving the other direction. If you have a list of sites, I'd be more than happy to look.