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  • #31
    gl Chuck E!
    RED LIGHT UP THAT CIGAR

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    • #32
      Sflinsj

      Originally posted by SFLINSJ
      Chuck,
      My guy doesn't do -1 RLs. I know someone on here explained how to bet both teams with one laying the -1 1/2 RL to make it essentially a -1 bet. Can you explain how to do this? Thanks buddy.

      P.S. It's still early for me so I can't think right now.
      To lay -1 when your book only allows ML and -1.5 RL do the following.

      Take StL today as an example ML is -155, -1.5 RL is even.

      play StL on the ML 155 to win 100
      play StL on -1.5 RL 100 to win 100.

      Basically you are laying 255 to win 200, or -128 on the -1 RL. If StL wins by 1 you lose the RL play and win the ML play, and you push. The key is your RL wager should equal your ML winnings.

      Hope this helps and isn't too confusing.
      Control what you can control...

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      • #33
        Mi66-What if St. Louis loses? Then you lose both bets, whereas if you are allowed to play St. Louis - 1 run and they lose, you only lose 1 bet. Am I missing something?
        I am assuming the bets listed are all 1 unit bets.
        ps Sure if St. Louis wins by 2 runs, you win both bets;however. assuming that the intent was to win a one unit bet, I don't see stated method as legitimate.
        Last edited by savage1; 06-20-2005, 05:22 PM.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by savage1
          Mi66-What if St. Louis loses? Then you lose both bets, whereas if you are allowed to play St. Louis - 1 run and they lose, you only lose 1 bet. Am I missing something?
          I am assuming the bets listed are all 1 unit bets.
          I think he means to play Cincy at +1.5. Maybe just a typo.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by savage1
            Mi66-What if St. Louis loses? Then you lose both bets, whereas if you are allowed to play St. Louis - 1 run and they lose, you only lose 1 bet. Am I missing something?
            I am assuming the bets listed are all 1 unit bets.
            Yes you are missing something, if St. Louis loses, you lose no matter what you played on St. Louis.

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            • #36
              Thanks illjaunt

              Originally posted by savage1
              Mi66-What if St. Louis loses? Then you lose both bets, whereas if you are allowed to play St. Louis - 1 run and they lose, you only lose 1 bet. Am I missing something?
              I am assuming the bets listed are all 1 unit bets.
              Your right savage, if the Cards lose, I only lose $129 on the -1 runline. Whereas if the cards lose and you play both -1.5 at $100 and the ML at $155, you can lose $229. That a difference of $100 more!

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              • #37
                Originally posted by BigWeiner
                Yes you are missing something, if St. Louis loses, you lose no matter what you played on St. Louis.
                I edited my last post.
                The point is that if you bet St.Louis -1 run and they lose, you lose only that bet for 1 unit.
                If you play St. Louis on the regular ML and - 1 1/2 runs for 1 unit, you lose two bets if St.Louis loses.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Cashmoneyasians
                  I think he means to play Cincy at +1.5. Maybe just a typo.
                  But if the Cards lose, you lose $29. And if the cards win by more than 2, you don't win anything! So you can't win unless it hits in the middle!
                  Last edited by ChuckLazar; 06-20-2005, 05:29 PM.

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                  • #39
                    GL Chuck --kapt


                    Don't make me go Cajun on your Ass!

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Chuck E. Cheese
                      But if the Cards lose, you lose $29. And if the cards win by more than 2, you don't win anything!
                      That is true, just play the frickin Cards and make some money!

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by savage1
                        I edited my last post.
                        The point is that if you bet St.Louis -1 run and they lose, you lose only that bet for 1 unit.
                        If you play St. Louis on the regular ML and - 1 1/2 runs for 1 unit, you lose two bets if St.Louis loses.
                        If St. Louis -1 is a one unit play, let's say $130 to win $100, and you don't have pinnicle, but you want to play it, here's how you do it.
                        Moneyline $80 to win $50
                        Runline $50 to win $50
                        Therefore, $130 to win $100, which is the same thing. Hope that clears is up. Good luck everybody

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by savage1
                          Mi66-What if St. Louis loses? Then you lose both bets, whereas if you are allowed to play St. Louis - 1 run and they lose, you only lose 1 bet. Am I missing something?
                          I am assuming the bets listed are all 1 unit bets.
                          ps Sure if St. Louis wins by 2 runs, you win both bets;however. assuming that the intent was to win a one unit bet, I don't see stated method as legitimate.
                          I should have clarified... i used 100 value to keep it simple. 100 value would be half your bet. So in this case it would be a 2 unit play. If you were only going to play for one unit divide by 2.
                          Control what you can control...

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                          • #43
                            To get around this dilemma, "The National Association of Offshores and Bookmakers" should require that in order to be "licensed," all must have -1 runs as part of their betting menu.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by BigWeiner
                              If St. Louis -1 is a one unit play, let's say $130 to win $100, and you don't have pinnicle, but you want to play it, here's how you do it.
                              Moneyline $80 to win $50
                              Runline $50 to win $50
                              Therefore, $130 to win $100, which is the same thing. Hope that clears is up. Good luck everybody
                              Thanks BW, we're talking about the samething I think you just made it clearer for everyone...

                              Sorry for the confusion guys. And yes, if StL loses, you lose regardless if you play ML, -1RL, or -1.5 RL.

                              So just win Cards! and hopefully by a lot!!!
                              Control what you can control...

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                              • #45
                                Easier way to do that, if you don't us Pinnacle is

                                You want to bet $500 on this one game, i.e St Louis tonight

                                Bet:

                                $250 on -.5 runs at -170 so your risking $425 to win $250

                                $250 on -1.5 runs at -110 so your risking $275 to win $250

                                so your $500 now turnes to $700 to win $500 or basically St. Louis -140 -1 run

                                Hope that helps

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