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    LOS ANGELES -- Lenny Dykstra's longtime friend and business partner has accused the former Philadelphia Phillies center fielder of using steroids and gambling illegally during his baseball career in a civil lawsuit, according to a newspaper report.

    Lindsay Jones, Dykstra's former partner in a lucrative car wash business, alleges the ballplayer advised him to bet thousands of dollars with a bookmaker on selected Phillies games in 1993, Dykstra's best year in the majors, the Los Angeles Times reported in Sunday editions.

    Jones, who is seeking to regain interest in the car wash business, said in a sworn statement that the baseball wagers were a form of payment to him, made "on the basis that Lenny would cover all losses, and I would use the winnings to live on."

    The lawsuit, filed last year in Ventura County Superior Court, is in binding arbitration and a decision is expected this week.

    The suit also includes a sworn statement from a Florida bodybuilder and convicted drug dealer who said Dykstra paid him $20,000 plus "special perks" during their eight-year association to "bulk up" the once-slight ballplayer.

    Baseball did not ban steroids until 2002, though the substances became illegal in 1991 unless prescribed by a physician.

    The bodybuilder, Jeff Scott, told the Times in an interview that he injected Dykstra with steroids "more times than I can count," and that Dykstra stepped up his steroid use in spring training of 1993 because it was a contract year.

    That year, Dykstra led the National League in hits, walks and runs, nearly doubled his previous high in home runs, finished second to Barry Bonds for most valuable player and led Philadelphia to the World Series.

    After the season, he signed a multiyear contract worth almost $25 million, making him baseball's highest-paid leadoff batter.

    Dykstra's lawyer, Daniel Petrocelli, told the Times the three-time All-Star "absolutely denies" the gambling allegation, calling it "unsubstantiated" and "a fabricated story from a disgruntled partner."

    Petrocelli, citing Scott's criminal past, also said the steroid allegation was not "reliable or credible," and called the former bodybuilder "biased and aligned with Jones." In the past, Dykstra has denied using steroids.

    In his lawsuit, Jones cites Dykstra's alleged steroid use and gambling involvement as evidence of financial irresponsibility that endangers the car wash business, which paid Jones $167,000 in 2003. Dykstra fired Jones in September 2003, but Jones contends he still has a financial interest in the business.

    Dykstra's lawyers say in court documents that Jones quit the three car washes after he was confronted about raiding cash registers, demanding kickbacks from contractors and using business funds to pay off his gambling debts.

    Jones' attorney, Michael McCaffrey, declined comment to the Associated Press, citing a gag order.

    Rich Levin, a spokesman for Major League Baseball, said Dykstra could be subject to a permanent ban from the game if an investigation found that he had advised baseball bets while playing. Baseball is not investigating Dykstra, Levin added, explaining that he has no current connection to baseball.

    Dykstra, 42, retired in 1996 after a 12-year career with the Phillies and New York Mets.
    RED LIGHT UP THAT CIGAR

  • #2
    not surprising!!! i heard stuff like that when he was playing

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    • #3
      Look at pics of him in '93 with the Phils and 86-87 with the Mets..... You see the difference, like Bonds now and with Pittsburgh....
      "That ain't working, that's the way you do it... get your money for nothing and your picks for free"

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      • #4
        To me the whole thing is way overblown;I have trouble relating to the section stating that Dyskstra told Jones to bet "selective Philly games."
        What does that mean, that Dykstra could fix the game like a horserace, a basketball or football game? It takes a lot more than one person(on BOTH teams) to try to control the outcome of an individual sport like baseball.
        I feel that the folks cited are trying to cash in like did Canseco with his book.
        With all the terrible things going on in the world, I regard the matter is trivial, a private matter between those concerned and not worthy of coverage.
        I am not condoning the use of steroids, but it is really no different than big corporations companies doing things, some of which are not legal(with big govt. looking the other way), in order to maximize their profits.
        Last edited by savage1; 04-25-2005, 12:52 AM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by savage1
          To me the whole thing is way overblown;I have trouble relating to the section stating that Dyskstra told Jones to bet "selective Philly games."
          What does that mean, that Dykstra could fix the game like a horserace, a basketball or football game? It takes a lot more than one person(on BOTH teams) to try to control the outcome of an individual sport like baseball.
          .
          What he was probably informing her on or betting on was the fact that he maybe knew the starting pitcher's harm was still sore, the bullpen was really overworked and tired or the fact that maybe the night before they got ripped and high or something like that and he knew that there would be a good chance that the day game was going to be rough on them. Betting on those games didn't mean that he needed to "fix" them but he maybe knew how the guys felt that day, sicknesses that would not be reported, guys have terrible headaches from partying that would maybe purposely argue balls and strikes and get tossed. I would hear those stories more often than not about baseball players playing day game after partying the night before. I could see what he did happening alot more than we let on. As for the roids, it all makes sense. A contract year, doubling his home run production and finishing 2nd in the mvp vote helped earn him 25 million = set for life now!!! Get off the roids and enjoy life!!!
          Get the best line possible....or you can just gamble!

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          • #6
            All Of This

            BONDS

            ROIDS

            SOSO-A

            ROIDS

            CANSECO

            ROIDS

            All of this and Pete Rose is getting fucked over to this day for betting on games. Take his records away or star them......then these illegal freaks should be given the same "respect"! NO SHOT AT THE HALL OF FAME!

            Makes no sense.........whatever happened to the games of the sixties/seventies with Koufax, Drysdale,Gibson......Killebrew, Banks,Aaron......real baseball.

            Good Grief......NOW THE LAWYERS and HOLLYWOOD will be running the sport in short order!!
            I am NOT schizophrenic......and NEITHER am I! Just paranoid that fear may overcome my insanity!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Sportsrmylife
              What he was probably informing her on or betting on was the fact that he maybe knew the starting pitcher's harm was still sore, the bullpen was really overworked and tired or the fact that maybe the night before they got ripped and high or something like that and he knew that there would be a good chance that the day game was going to be rough on them. Betting on those games didn't mean that he needed to "fix" them but he maybe knew how the guys felt that day, sicknesses that would not be reported, guys have terrible headaches from partying that would maybe purposely argue balls and strikes and get tossed. I would hear those stories more often than not about baseball players playing day game after partying the night before. I could see what he did happening alot more than we let on. As for the roids, it all makes sense. A contract year, doubling his home run production and finishing 2nd in the mvp vote helped earn him 25 million = set for life now!!! Get off the roids and enjoy life!!!
              All I know is over the years I have heard many services and others give out big plays against teams(including baseball) because theam members were tired from travel,sick, not motivated, a key player was injured and/or would not start, yada, yada, yada.
              More times than not the supposedly troubled team won.
              I don't buy that line of thinking especially when in baseball there are 9 individual players competing against 9 individual players on the other team.
              You can't order a basehit, homerun no matter how tired or sick someone thinks a pitcher is;the other player still has to do his part.
              A fly ball which falls two feet short of the fence is still going to be caught;a grounder to short will still be an out.
              They say baseball is a "game of inches,"and that goes beyond anyone player's ability to gauge what will happen.
              Timed and TEAM events like basketball and football and most importantly with pointspreads are different and more susceptible to a player telling someone to bet on or against a team, as the former(pointspreads) are easier to manipulate than just the winner or loser of a baseball game.
              Baseball is baseball, and other than trying to tell all of your teammates to deliberately strike out and make outs or telling your pitcher to groove some pitches, I don't believe any one player has the ability, knowledge and certainly not the control over the likely outcome of a game jmho.

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              • #8
                Goldvike-for reasons stated I don't think either Pete Rose or the roids users should be banned from the Hall of Fame.;they are simply a microcosm of our society, folks trying to make a buck.
                If the fans don't like it, then they can choose not to attend the games.
                Hey-I don't like the big inflated salaries either and won't attend any games;I think greedy players, agents and owners have ruined things.
                On the other hand, if others want to pay the inflated prices( which are inflated even further by the disgusting tactics of ticket scalpers who scoop up virtually all of the tickets supposedly legally and then sell them for outrageous amounts) so be it.
                Until/if the tenets of this society changes,which is free enterprise and making money, I think players are just doing what everyone does-basically doing whatever it takes to rise to the top and make as much money as they can.
                If you crack down on steroid users, then do the same for government and corporations-cut out the graft, special favors and tax breaks to the corporations and on and on and on.
                Last edited by savage1; 04-25-2005, 01:44 AM.

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                • #9
                  ps It would seem also by the tone of the article that Jones didn't exactly "break the bank" with the supposedly privileged information given to him by Dykstra re: betting on or against the Phillies, and it seems to be that even Pete Rose, while managing and gambing on the games,didn't have the greatest success either; this further supports my allegation that players and managers have no edge over a good handicapper in determining the outcome of ballgames, and that at least that portion of the suit is without merit;if Jones was dumb enough to take a tip to bet onor against the Phillies based on Dysktra's sayso, then that is his problem(yeah I know baseball players aren't supposed to be involved in gambling on baseball directly or indirectly;thats a whole other issue).
                  I guess if Dykstra told this guy to bet on selected horses at the track, no one would give a shit because that form of gambling is legal and ok because the state shares in the profits-again a different issue.
                  If one word sums my feelings in this matter, it is HYPOCRISY.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by GoldVike
                    BONDS

                    ROIDS

                    SOSO-A

                    ROIDS

                    CANSECO

                    ROIDS

                    All of this and Pete Rose is getting fucked over to this day for betting on games. Take his records away or star them......then these illegal freaks should be given the same "respect"! NO SHOT AT THE HALL OF FAME!

                    Makes no sense.........whatever happened to the games of the sixties/seventies with Koufax, Drysdale,Gibson......Killebrew, Banks,Aaron......real baseball.

                    Good Grief......NOW THE LAWYERS and HOLLYWOOD will be running the sport in short order!!
                    I agree and I despise Pete Rose. The hypocrisy in baseball is a fucking joke.

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