*** Wednesday

[kingcash]

Thanks mbates. But I don't FOLLOW anyones plays.
I use others plays as a "GUIDE" for what I finalize and put my cash on.
Example-I loved Providence tonight.I saw you had a big play on Uconn. Lots of people did.That just reinforced my Providence play.
No disrespect to you.Thats just how i do it.
I don't need to follow anyone as I have been doing this for over 15 years.
I guess you saw that I was a rookie poster and thought I was a rookie at sports wagering.
No biggie.Thanks for the heads up anyway.
Good luck fellas.
Peace

[mbates]

I wasn't referring to you. Your too new here. You sound like you've been studying lines for awhile and have your own system
figured out. Nothing but the best for you. I was referring to the
frequent visitors of this site who been here for awhile.

Kingcash, I also had big plays tonight on the Houston Rockets,
Furman, UCONN and WI. Badgers. My other plays tonight
will be on the plus side. Last night I was 3-1 and hit my big play on Boston College. So did you fade those plays also?

[trap]

and not only that, every body is pissing, and moaning about ***
posting late, and then you thro B.S. post out there, and slo him down that much more, when he feels he should reply.
Money mgnt. the key, and also play-um, fade-um, but more important, have some fun

[Ryan C]

Louisville line was two becuase oddsmaker thought a key player was suspended when they found out he was going to play they adjusted the line to 4

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Well, another winning night finishing up 16.6 units for the night. But, a disappointing finish to go 6-4 for the night. Brings the week totals to 21-12 and up 65.1 units. Has been a nice run all week, but it should even get better. No excuse to finish 6-4 tonight, but still winnings and hopefully will continue 2morrow. Best of luck to all.

[soonerisaacs]

Dear SIr

Yes I said SIR. For the 2 weeks that I have been here and posted a respectable number and have tried to out number you I have to admit YOU THE MAN and I do respect your picks and do wish you the best of luck with all your picks. Keep up the good work and win win win.

[Ryan C]

Dime Bettor had $96,800 invested to win $16,600

100 dollar bettor had $9,680 invested to win $1,660

LMAO sorry not possible when dealing with REAL cash you would have to have KING KONG size balls to have 90X 1 unit RISKED in one night and u would not have the $$ to do so

No way in hell somebody who decides a 110 dollar is what they feel safe with betting goes up and pushes 1,100 through the betting window 4 times in one night no less and also pushes $880 through the betting window 6 times if they could do this they would have made 1 unit alot higher then 110.00 they would have made 1 unit $550.00 or $1,100 not $110.00

110 dollar bettor is not going to wager 1,100 and a $1,100 dollar bettor is not going to wager$11,000 but *** does this to make it look like he has won more UNITS then he really has

also look at the EDGE the Bookmaker has $96,800 to win $16,600 LMAO you are only giving up $80,200 dollars or use 110 as a example $9680 to win $1,660 you are giving up $8020 dollars Bookies would be lined up at *** door to take those odds

PLUS 16 units for the Night please if you have two bad days in a row risking $ 9,680 to win $1,660 as a $110 dollar bettor you would go BROKE you would not survive it. Just admit that you are not really betting 10X 1 unit just come clean and say 10X is 1 unit and you did'nt really win 16 units you made like 1.4 units AFTER JUICE. The only way this betting format is possible is if you have a $10,000 Bankroll and you decided one unit is $55.00 and evry time you bet you just wager $550 then when the game wins you say you are up 10 units and then you just keep on betting $550 when common sense says after the millionth day of betting an average of $550 per play 55 is not one unit $550 is there for you are not really winning all those units. If you said to somebody on the street you went 6-4 for the night and made 16 units in profit they would say WOW you must of hit some HUGE underdogs on the money line. LMAO please the guy was 6-4 you don't win 16 units going 6-4 unless you hit a 25-1 shot or something.I wager $1,100 on a game that is 1 UNIT I could easily say they are 7x or 10X and when I go 3-0 say I won 30 units instead of the 2.7 units AFTER JUICE $3,000 divided by $1,100 = 2.7 that is a 27.3 unit swing from the truth and that is why his money mangement is just wrong in so many ways. But he can Pick winners But his unit basis is WAY off

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Wow, Ryan you are becoming a basher very quick. Leave it go. What is your problem? My system for the last time is conservative and fair to people to judge the plays. Ok, lets do it your way then. Ok, for the week I am 21-12. In your system that means I won 21,000 and lost 13200. Wow, that comes to a GRAND TOTAL of UP $7,800 in JUST three days. Is that big enough for you HAHA. So, who looks like the one who is realistic? But, thanks for pointing that out. So, can I tell my followers and MISLEAD them that I'm up near 8K in just three days. So, you can try to distort as much as you want, but either in your system or any system; winnings are winnings. It's funny when I lose units, you've never had problems counting them ALL as losses. Like I've said all along, to earn them, you have to WIN them.

I don't tell people I'm up over 8K for the week. I NEVER post above a 10* play. Why don't you go attack people who post 100* plays. And your comments that people who rate plays are 1 900 scammers, well you just called everyone on the board a scammer, while you're telling everyone to play 100K/month. Last I checked no one needs to call a 1900 number to access this page. Its free for EVERYONE. Seems you have problems with people here. Give it a rest and try to help people win. People UNDERSTAND a scale of 1-10, but do you think the average person bets 1K per game? Get real man. I've been at this for many years. I would NEVER risk any follower to be misled. My goal is to make anyone who follows to win. That's the bottomline. Not to be better than Ryan C or anyone else. That's why I never butt in what other people are doing. To each his own.

As for your sarcastic comment that with me on any given night you could lose up to 30K if the plays go down, well on your system you lost almost 5K just tonight. So, few more of those are you going to take the bridge? Or are you misleading people to think you're really betting that much. I've been in this industry way to long to know and spot dime players. So, I don't see why you're so worried about me. EVERYONE uses, EVERYONE uses scales. EVERYONE. What part don't you understand? You'd probably hunt me down and try to kill me if I posted 100 stars like many. Give it a rest. I know you're the type that needs to get the last word in, but this is my last reply on this matter. Like it or love it. For the last time like they posted earlier ENOUGH OF GARBAGE TALK and start posting what you're here for, WINNERS

Best of luck

2 to 1 odds you have a rebuttal post

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One more thing, and I'm not saying this in an arrogant manner; but I wouldn't back down to anyone in statistics and math as they were my strengths all the way through college. I've said it once already and you aren't grasping the concept; when numbers are RELATIVE it is IMPOSSIBLE to divide and conform like you want. You are so hard pressed trying to impress people with big bucs, let me throw away your argument. For example, on one of the boards I have a follower and this is how he breaks it down for HIMSELF cause it is RELATIVE. You're assuming everyone bets the "same" amount. That is incorrect. That would make it an "exact" system. it's a relative system. Anyway, one of the guys who follows me gambles for fun. So this is how he breaks down my system


5X- he plays 25
6-7X- he pays 30 bucs

8X- he plays 35 bucs

10X- he plays 40 bucs


so, you're assuming increments of thousands and hundreds. Look at the guy above. He hardly jumps from an 8x to a 10x play. Did it ever strike you that some people go up in much smaller increments? So, its called RELATIVITY...The 1-10 scale is a gauge to show strength of opinion. I hope you understand this. But, it is IMPOSSIBLE to divide relative numbers. That is simple math.

[Ryan C]

Im not impressing anybody with Big money bets I Flat Bet 1 unit and two percent of my Bankroll on each play you have to have a BIG Bankroll when wagering on sports if you want to make any good money. And also I don't care how other people manage there money Im talking about *** you said you wager 10 x 1 unit on games you said the X were units How in the world can you wager 10x 1 unit and not go broke when you lose, and how do you win 16 units going 6-4. Also if you are so good a math you should know that every time you change the size of your wager you are raising the breakeven Point and aslo screwing up the cash Flow of your Bankroll and only the BIG wagers will count for anything when it's said and done all proven by MATH guys and casino Executives and I could go on with the math stuff.

Say you have a $10,000 bankroll and that person is Flat betting $110 so 110 is one unit if they follow you they would wager $1,100 on one 10X play which is one tenth of there working Bankroll if you hit a bad week your 10,000 is gone betting $1,100 on one play. Now you trying to say how do you know 1 unit is 110X10 well all what I have to say is that people who have 10,000 Bankrolls do not wager 40.00 on one unit which would make $400 on one 10 X play which is better But what Im saying is that nobody wagers 40.00 as one unit with a $10,000 Bankroll because common sense says to raise the one unit play of 40.00 to around 110 or 220 and cut back the 10X plays and the 9 x plays, and that is why when you win 16 units in one night at 6-4 is not really the truth 40X10=$400 you had $1,600 dollars Risked which is 1 tenth of the Bankroll mutiplying a lousy 40.00 with a 10,000 Bankroll on 10X plays alone factor in the 8x 40 x8=320 multiply by 6=$1,920 1920 + $1,600=3,520 dollars Total invested with a $10,000 Bankroll that is not bad but who in the hell has $3,520 dollars Divided by 40.00= 88 units invested in one Night does that not tell you that 40.00 as one unit with a $10,000 Bankroll is two low and that 10X plays are not really ten times Plays becuase of that and so 16 units in one night is very deceiving to the public eye 10 X plays for you are really like evrybody elses 1 or 2 unit plays but by doing it your way the units look IMPRESSIVE you can go around and say you made 16 units tonight any yopu would not be lying but if you look closer you did not really win 16 units you just made the unit size really small and then Multiplied them by 10 to say you have a big power ball pick but the game is 40 X10= $400 which would be a 4 unit play or even for some people a 1 unit play but then you add all those extra units on becuase you set it so low and it looks alot better then what it really is It is relative even if you wager 40 as a 1 unit play 10 X then is not so bad but it is still very risky and adding on all those extra units in my mind is uncalled for. Just my opinion *** I still love the games you post they win more times then not keep it up *** good luck:D

[Ryan C]

Of course anybody can take your games and use their own money management but IM talking about how you do it and that for example even with a 10,000 Bankroll wagering as little as 40.00 on a 1unit play making 10X plays is still to high and makes the units deceiving to people. Don't say you made 16 UNITS tonight because you did'nt make no 16 units I lost 4 units tonight but you did not win 16 what ever you bet with your bookmaker on a 9x play multiply the winners by 6 and multiply the losers by four and ADD THE VIG to the losers which you never do and then Subtract the winners from the losers, then Divide that outcome by whatever you wager on 9x plays with your bookmaker and it will be around 1.4 to 1.7 units NOT 16 units

This is what I don't understand at all he claims big units all the time but they are not UNITS:confused:

[Ryan C]

how was my comment sarcastic that on any giving night a dime bettor following your system could lose $30,000 a night all you would have to do is go 0-3 in 10x plays and that would do it.

you could have a $50,000 Bankroll wager 1,100-$1,000 follow your system go 0-3 on 10X plays and lose $30,000 in one night sounds outrageous but when you win betting like this you take credit you would be the first to say you won 30 units if it was 3-0 instead of 0-3 so I don't see how my comment was sarcastic

[Ryan C]

LMAO or are you saying a guy with a 50 K Bankroll should wager less the $1,100 a game because following you he would have to wager $220 a game with a $50,000 Bankroll LMAO

Honestly *** what the hell don't I understand Im still confused :confused:

[dtrain]

This site is a damn soap opera.


*** keep up the good work. If you ever don't feel like posting anymore I'll send you my email. Best of luck to you.:D

[BettorsChat]

Ryan C,

You're missing the point on the ranking system. As *** pointed out look at how 1 guy bets his plays.

As for *** I don't know what he puts on a 10x play but lets say it was only $200 then on a 8x its 150 & so on.

Unit ranking and what people put on each unit varies from person to person.