F*ck These Announcers THat Criticize Moss

[TwoTonTony]

Professional football is not a "job" in which class can be judged completely and fairly. It is played under a microscope and this affects the actions that are made. So, twotontony, this isn't just a "job". You seem to be like most others that enjoy selectively attending to the wrong things that moss does and then use these against them any chance that is possible. WHen you look at moss through "purple colored glasses" as you so put it, you actually give the guy a chance and are not as biased. He helps the younger players on the team, he can set an example in other ways, and usually comes up with the big play. Basically, I was just pissed at the accusatory way you made it sound like I was defending moss because I am a vikes fan. Actually, I called for his trade at the end of last season, I am just sticking up for a guy that has made some mistakes. I get irritated at people making judgements about a professional sports player's character when the only reason they are pissed is because they lost $$$

DOne.

just my 2 cents

[/QUOTE]First and foremost i won on the Vikes......i agree partially that you can not judge a man's class by what he does on the field...we do not know the athlete...or the actor..or the public figure.....it is generally a persona.....however, that being said it does play a part......i always believed in sportsmanship.....(when barry sanders scored he handed the ball to the ref because he said acted as if he had been there before)...do not get me wrong...i do not dislike someone due to celebration.....it is just not in my nature to do it....i was a boxer and after a KO i never stood over an opponent and taunted...it is bush and on the field of battle i always gave respect.....i knew several pro athletes and played against a few.... enough to know that this is a job.....a high paying job too.....one that allows you more freedoms than most..... as far as randy helping younger players...why shouldn't he??? he may help them, but then bitch when he doesn;t "get the damn ball"......it got to the point where culpepper was forcing too many throws to get the right ratio for the randy quotient.....anyways, there is no way you can comvince me this guy is a first class citizen...too much bad history on this guy.....do people change....yes they do...however, as you heard player after player, announcer after announcer say.....he just does not get it.....when michael irving trashes you...you know you deserve it, because he cuts players the most slack of any of the announcers......i personally do not know randy moss and could not say 100% that he is low budget...but if i had to bet i would say he is...if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...there is a good chance it may be a duck.....thats all...not trying to pick a fight....just not ready to say moss is high class

[iwright]

I find it interesting that no complains when Chad Pennington makes tauting gestures after his td pass. No one screams "Chad act like you have been there before". I guess its ok for Chadwick to taut. Different rules for different people.

[casheasy]

Learn about your subject next time

Moss never complained about "getting the damn ball". That was Keyshawn Johnson.

The Randy Ratio was conceived by a rookie head coach trying to use his best weapon.

Mike Irvin (not Irving) has been critical of late because he wants to fit in. Again, outside of leaving a field with 2 seconds left, what has the guy done in ANY negative way this past 2 years? NOTHING.

Again.....IT WAS A FAKE MOON, PEOPLE. Like iwright popinted out, what Moss did (which by the way was his first celebration of a TD outside of jumping into the stands) was not nearly the taunting gesture you see from Pennington, AND it was completely legal and funny.

[jt4545]

One More Thing From An Old Man I Also Won On Colts And Minn. Parlay And Tease Over And The Under, So I'm Not Against Any Team. Just The Way These People Act After They Make A Good Play, Why Don't They Act The Same After They Blow A Play Or Miss A Tackle Or Just Fail To Do The Job ?
Also Is It Going To Get To The Point That They Grab Their Crotch And Act Like They Are Playing With Self? Remember Roseanne Barr When She Sang The National Anthem, How She Grabed Her Crotch And Spit, Now That Was Disgusting I Think What Moss Did Was Just As Bad. People Need To Think About The Young Kids Who See These Things And Know That They Might Act The Same Way, I Would Rather Do Something In Good Taste And Have Someone Follow In The Same Way, So What I'm Trying To Say Is Act And Do The Right Thing As An Athlete Or Anyone In The Public Eye. Be A Class Act, As Someone Said About Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, ****** Unitas Joe Montana, Where Are The Heros We Can Look Up At And Say Now There Is A Great Person. Thanks!

[Hoosier Daddy]

I was wondering if this topic was going to be discussed here today.......

here's my thoughts (as if you cared, but I'm writing them anyway)....Moss seems like a selfish prick. Would I want to hang out with him or have my daughter date him? No. Would I want him on my football team? Yes. Probably the most physically gifted player in the NFL, along with Michael Vick.

As for yesterday, I thought it was funny.....classless act? Mmmm....yeah, maybe a little, but not to the extent that Joe Buck was going off. Joe made it sound like he spiked the ball, whipped out his cock and started beating off on the goal post. If he's going to apologize for Fox showing that, what about when it was 17-0 in the 1st quarter and they were showing Moss talking to Packer fans behind the bench, VERY clearly saying, "look at the Mother Fucking score. look at the mother fucking scoreboard." Compared to the other garbage that is on TV these days, the end zone celebration was nothing. This is getting blown way out of proportion.

JT - I don't agree that what Moss did was as bad as Roseanne disgracing the National Anthem, not even close. I don't like when guys jump up and start signaling 1st down with their arm everytime they make a catch, especially when they're losing. But face it, that's what the game is today. It isn't going to change. Blame the Cowboys back in the early 90s, including Emmitt when he decided to become an ass and take off his helmet after every big play.

Casheasy, you're right. VERY surprisingly, Moss isn't the type of guy who talks a lot of trash on the field, or has elaborate end zone celebrations, or signals 1st down after every catch. Media is making way too big of a deal out of this, rather than talking about 2 fantastic games on Saturday that came down to the last play in each, one of the best games by a QB in the playoffs ever, and an impressive Vikings win in Lambeau in January, they focus on this. That's sad.

[TwoTonTony]

Moss never complained about "getting the damn ball". That was Keyshawn Johnson.

The Randy Ratio was conceived by a rookie head coach trying to use his best weapon.

Mike Irvin (not Irving) has been critical of late because he wants to fit in. Again, outside of leaving a field with 2 seconds left, what has the guy done in ANY negative way this past 2 years? NOTHING.

Again.....IT WAS A FAKE MOON, PEOPLE. Like iwright popinted out, what Moss did (which by the way was his first celebration of a TD outside of jumping into the stands) was not nearly the taunting gesture you see from Pennington, AND it was completely legal and funny.

i realize it was KJ who was famous for the quote....just moss has echoed those sentiments........you think tice came up with the ratio by himself or was it a little prodding from randy........anyways, you can defend this guy all you want....he did not pull down his pants, agreed...does not make the gesture have class....if he pretended to show the jerkoff motion to the crowd would you defend that too, cuz he didn't pull his cock out.....

i agree it is not just moss...however, that is who is on the headlines and all the sports shows.........bottom line is that many athletes are primadonnas and moss is at the top of the heap....

do you call leaving the field nothing negative.......do you call telling the GB fans to look at the mfing scoreboard class.......also ending an interview on national TV with kiss my ass....yeah, thats class and i would be real proud if her were my dad, brother, etc........stop defending this punk with saying others do worse....when they do i will rip them also......i did not se pennington, but what he did to the NY media was classless move also.....

randy moss...great talent....classless punk....

anyways, i am gonna get back to the biz at hand...capping

peace out bro

[TwoTonTony]

I was wondering if this topic was going to be discussed here today.......

here's my thoughts (as if you cared, but I'm writing them anyway)....Moss seems like a selfish prick. Would I want to hang out with him or have my daughter date him? No. Would I want him on my football team? Yes. Probably the most physically gifted player in the NFL, along with Michael Vick.

As for yesterday, I thought it was funny.....classless act? Mmmm....yeah, maybe a little, but not to the extent that Joe Buck was going off. Joe made it sound like he spiked the ball, whipped out his cock and started beating off on the goal post. If he's going to apologize for Fox showing that, what about when it was 17-0 in the 1st quarter and they were showing Moss talking to Packer fans behind the bench, VERY clearly saying, "look at the Mother Fucking score. look at the mother fucking scoreboard." Compared to the other garbage that is on TV these days, the end zone celebration was nothing. This is getting blown way out of proportion.

JT - I don't agree that what Moss did was as bad as Roseanne disgracing the National Anthem, not even close. I don't like when guys jump up and start signaling 1st down with their arm everytime they make a catch, especially when they're losing. But face it, that's what the game is today. It isn't going to change. Blame the Cowboys back in the early 90s, including Emmitt when he decided to become an ass and take off his helmet after every big play.

Casheasy, you're right. VERY surprisingly, Moss isn't the type of guy who talks a lot of trash on the field, or has elaborate end zone celebrations, or signals 1st down after every catch. Media is making way too big of a deal out of this, rather than talking about 2 fantastic games on Saturday that came down to the last play in each, one of the best games by a QB in the playoffs ever, and an impressive Vikings win in Lambeau in January, they focus on this. That's sad.

good perspective!!!

[casheasy]

First off, I already said the leaving the field thing, so you can't use that. I said OUTSIDE of that, name one. You can't.

He didn't say "Kiss my ass", he said "we whupped their ass"

The scoreboard thing, are you serious? You don't think players say things to fans from the bench all the time? Get real.

And Tice is the one who came up with the Randy Ratio, not Moss. Moss has always wanted EVERYBODY involved in the offense. You're thinking of Moss merely saying "Chuck it out there, dog" when he gets single coverage. Nothing selfish about that. He's the greatest weapon that ever lived at WR. You use him more, not less. John Madden agrees with that logic. You should too.

And as far as capping, you're right. Time to get started. And the Iggles might be a good selection this Sunday. We'll get to that later. Good luck this week.

[leadhand]

Keep in mind what reflection all this has on little kids playing the game at thier level. I see it all the time in lower level sports now. kids doing the same crap these supposedly primadonnas do. But thats life I guess, so what the hell lets condon it, over my dead body. Its stinks, and thats the bottom line. Some one comes into your thread and pisses all over ya cause your games lost and ya call that person a idiot and to get a life. Tell me the difference. Do ya think that is funnie when they do that. Don't ya get it. Moss and people like him just don't have any class or respect. I am not just picking on Moss. Its all the players like him, some worse than others. Keep condoning it and all it will do is get worse. Again everyone has thier opinion.

[casheasy]

No YOU don't get it

He didn't DO anything. He was mocking what Packer fans do when players leave the parking lot (they ACTUALLY moon the visiting team bus) by FAKING a moon at the endzone guys. It was a joke. There's nothing to condone. You losers get trapped and fooled by the media into thinking Moss actually did something bad. The rest of the media jumps on board because ever since last year's Super Bowl, we have been swept over by this Conservative bullshit to try and make certain nothing will ever offend anybody.

If things keep going the way they are, pretty soon they'll have Paul McCartney doing the halftime at the Super Bowl.

[gbc]

hmm, I've been to about 10 Packer games at Lambeau and have never seen fans moon the visiting team bus, have you been on the bus before or waiting to watch it leave, or just a MN story through the grape vine? Every game I have been too whether it is against the Vikings or another team, the fans are respectful. In fact, this year against Dallas, I was in the bathroom, there was one Cowboy fan and a whole lot of Packer fans. One Packer fan gave the Cowboy fan a little fun ribbing and quickly there were many Packer fans telling the guy giving the shit to cool it and be respectful, it is something Packer fans pride themselves on. Of course, you will probably have a couple of pricks at each game, but where don't you?
Love the defending of Moss, sorry, but the guy is a prick, and if he was on any other team besides your favorite you would agree. How about nudging the traffic cop in 2002? Same incident he got caught with a joint in his ashtray, of course it wasn't his and he didn't get in trouble for it. The guy gets chances over and over again to redeem himself and he continues to make an ass out of himself. Watch the interviews, he has never and never will be sorry for a damn thing he does or says. He can get away with it because of his abilities. Dennis Green was basically fired because Moss wanted it, watching the interview a couple of nights ago when they asked Moss if Tice is the coach for this team makes me believe his future is limited as well, (I know his contracted was just extended for a year). Moss gets special treatment, generally excused from Monday meetings whent he rest of the players attend, and Tice kisses his ass as well. This is why he thinks he can get away with whatever he wants, shit he said it to Jimmy Johnson, I'm gonna do whatever I want to do, I'm gonna say whatever I want to say.
The guys attitude sucks and if you can't see that, take off the blinders.

[iwright]

gbc are you saying Dungy is lying? This is another example of how truly pathetic sports media is. I can't recall one of these media idiots pointing out this low class tradition of packer fans. Its telling. We will see how the Randy Johnson incident today will be reported.

[rwall]

OK my turn,
I wish I read this earlier, great theater.
Moss is and has always been an ass. Great talent, but an unappreciative asshole.
Great ones in the past may have showboated, but were not disrespectful.
This culture of athletes is what keeps me away from professional sports.

[BigTicket]

hmm, I've been to about 10 Packer games at Lambeau and have never seen fans moon the visiting team bus, have you been on the bus before or waiting to watch it leave, or just a MN story through the grape vine? Every game I have been too whether it is against the Vikings or another team, the fans are respectful. In fact, this year against Dallas, I was in the bathroom, there was one Cowboy fan and a whole lot of Packer fans. One Packer fan gave the Cowboy fan a little fun ribbing and quickly there were many Packer fans telling the guy giving the shit to cool it and be respectful, it is something Packer fans pride themselves on. Of course, you will probably have a couple of pricks at each game, but where don't you?
Love the defending of Moss, sorry, but the guy is a prick, and if he was on any other team besides your favorite you would agree. How about nudging the traffic cop in 2002? Same incident he got caught with a joint in his ashtray, of course it wasn't his and he didn't get in trouble for it. The guy gets chances over and over again to redeem himself and he continues to make an ass out of himself. Watch the interviews, he has never and never will be sorry for a damn thing he does or says. He can get away with it because of his abilities. Dennis Green was basically fired because Moss wanted it, watching the interview a couple of nights ago when they asked Moss if Tice is the coach for this team makes me believe his future is limited as well, (I know his contracted was just extended for a year). Moss gets special treatment, generally excused from Monday meetings whent he rest of the players attend, and Tice kisses his ass as well. This is why he thinks he can get away with whatever he wants, shit he said it to Jimmy Johnson, I'm gonna do whatever I want to do, I'm gonna say whatever I want to say.
The guys attitude sucks and if you can't see that, take off the blinders.

This is to you and all the other packer backers that post in this thread. I will admit I have blinders because I LOVE my vikings but I will only admit this if you guys concede you have just as big a bias because you are packer fans!!! Its so easy to call us ignorant and that we cant see it because we are fans of the vikes but you are guilty of the same thing you haters! Truth is, the vikes were 1-2 against the pack this year, with the 1 win being the important one! Tough break! Moss can be a dick, of course he can! This thread is kinda heated, kinda funny, and very biased.

[10DimeBry]

Favre needs to retire already.