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  • #16
    There should be a rule. Have a website, get monitored, or GET LOST. Just my opinion ***********, winagain, rainman, mrpickum = it all sounds the same to me. Some guy, taking picks from other sources, trying to scam up money from people on sports betting threads. Spark, it never ends huh? On a more positive note, thick should be able to post a basketball consensus with some of our favorites on there, which will also eliminate my needing to post Executive basketball since they are on that consensus! best of luck to everyone tonight, let's get some more basketball winners!

    OBE
    Last edited by OleBlueEyes; 01-04-2005, 11:29 AM.
    OBE

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    • #17
      Originally posted by BettorsChat
      So now you're stating that he's been posting his plays for free? When above you had to check and see if it was ok to post them here. That' doesn't make sense.
      As of today, he is going to have a cappers showdown against the winning wager team. Didnt know that until I asked him about posting here. I just dont want to chance losing his services, because I know that most cappers get mad when they see people posting their plays. He is going to be posting for a week free, all his plays.

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      • #18
        betonthese = big jim

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        • #19
          Originally posted by betonthese
          As of today, he is going to have a cappers showdown against the winning wager team. Didnt know that until I asked him about posting here. I just dont want to chance losing his services, because I know that most cappers get mad when they see people posting their plays. He is going to be posting for a week free, all his plays.
          You should know that since you're him you dick. Do you actually think you can post under more than 1 name on here and I wouldn't find out?

          p layswinbig is his other name
          Last edited by BettorsChat; 01-04-2005, 11:42 AM.

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          • #20
            can someone post sebastian 100* sugar bowl, he is on fire lately..

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            • #21
              Anyone Have Godspicks Card? They Are 18-2-1 In Hoops! No Shit!

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              • #22
                NC please

                whatever their play is fade it, you will make some green

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                • #23
                  Phil Steele's

                  Orange Bowl Write-Up

                  This year's National Championship is between two teams that were disappointed by the results of LY's Sugar Bowl, USC for not being in it and Oklahoma for losing it to LSU 21-14. The Trojans did get some satisfaction as after their Rose Bowl win over Michigan they won the AP Poll and were Co-National Champs. USC and Oklahoma went wire-to-wire as #1 & 2 for the first time in the AP Poll's history. USC leads the series 5-2-1 SU all-time (3-0 ATS) with the last meeting coming in '92. Trojans HC Pete Carroll in his 1st year back was 6-5 SU & ATS but dropped their 2001 Las Vegas Bowl matchup to Utah 10-6. Since then USC has gotten better each year going 10-2, 11-1 and 12-0 TY with dominating bowl wins in the 2002 Orange Bowl (38-17 over Iowa) and LY's Rose Bowl (28-14). OU Co-DC Bo Pelini served as a Carroll assistant for 5 years in the NFL while the Sooners former-DC Mike Stoops is the headman at Arizona and will certainly give his brother all the film and help that he can (USC beat UA 49-9). Oklahoma has won 7 National Titles with their most recent coming the last time they played in Miami in the 2000-'01 Orange Bowl, a 13-2 upset of Florida St as 10 pt dogs. OU is 12-5 SU all-time in the Orange Bowl. Stoops is 3-2 SU (2-3 ATS) in bowls and is 12-2 SU all-time vs Top 10 teams. USC played the tougher schedule (#13-22). In games against bowl teams this year both teams were 6-0 SU but only 2-4 ATS. USC outscored those foes 32-15 and outgained them 401-320. The Sooners outscored them 34-18 and outgained them by a wider margin 450-304. Both teams have only been a single digit fav once TY with USC getting a non-covering 23-17 win (-7) over Cal (a game in which they were outgained 424-205!!), while OU covered against Texas 12-0 (-7) as a 4H Key Selection on these pages. Both teams play on grass so no advantage to either team. The Trojans have 8 seniors with 14 total upperclassmen starters. OU is a senior dominated team with 13 overall starters and 18 upperclassmen. This will be the first time the Sooners have been a dog since 2002 but they have gone 9-2 ATS in that role with 8 outright upsets including their last visit to the Orange Bowl.

                  USC has the NCAA's leader in all-purpose yds Reggie Bush (PS#5, Heisman finalist) who totalled 2,181 yds TY. OC Norm Chow likes to move Bush around to create mismatches and he finished 2nd on the team in rushing (833 yds, 6.1) and receiving (478 yds, 11.7) with 13 TD's. Heisman Winner QB Matt Leinart (PS#9) made the offense go avg 249 ypg (67%) with a 28-6 ratio (#9 NCAA pass eff). LenDale White was the leading rusher with 985 yds (5.2) and 15 total TD's (13 rush). They had hoped to get WR Mike Williams back after his failed bid to enter the NFL draft but the NCAA ruled him ineligible. Steve Smith (PS#3) stepped in but was injured mid-season although he did return at the end and will start here (#3 w/35 rec, 15.6). True Fr Dwayne Jarrett (PS#4) led the team with 50 rec (14.7) and 12 TD's. TE's Dominique Byrd & Alex Holmes (PS#3 & #5) combined for 58 rec (9.8). The OL has gone thru growing pains TY as they only have one senior starter, LG John Drake on the unit. Drake (350 lbs) and RT Taitusi Lutui (370 lbs) are the largest USC linemen in history. The rest of the line is made up of youngsters and overall the line avg 6-4 317 lbs. They allowed 24 sacks (6.1%) with an impressive 4.5 ypc TY and USC finished with our #5 offense. The defensive front seven is solid and quick, led in the middle by DT Shaun Cody (9 sks, 40 tkls), NT Mike Patterson (6 sks, 10 tfl, 42 tkls), and MLB Lofa Tatupu (#1 tklr 92, 5.5 sks & 7 tfl, 8 pbu, 3 int) with all 3 being 1st Tm Pac 10 members. Overall the DL had 27.5 of the team's 48 sks. DT Manuel Wright is a key member of the rotation who missed the last couple of games but is expected to return here. The secondary has a bunch of solid tacklers with good coverage skills which is why they finished with our #1 pass efficiency defense. SS Darnell Bing (53 tkls, 6 pbu, 2 int), FS Jason Leach (44 tkls, 4 pbu, 2 int) and CB's Justin Wyatt (39 tkls, 5 pbu, 1 int), Kevin Arbet (26 tkls, 2 pbu, 1 int) and Eric Wright (29 tkls, 6 pbu, 1 int) comprise the unit. USC held opponents to just 196 ypg (53%) with an outstanding 11-19 ratio in the pass-happy Pac 10. Overall USC has our #2 defense.

                  After dominating their 12 regular season games in '03 by an avg 48-13 margin, many in the media crowned the Sooners as "the greatest college football team of all-time." OU then got run over 35-7 by Kansas St in the title game as KSU was the one team who exploited OU's glaring weakness - its lack of a physical running game. Due to their substantial lead in the BCS system, OU still made the Sugar Bowl at the expense of USC where they again were out-toughed in the trenches. OU avg'd just 67 rush ypg (2.2) in their L/4 games LY and Stoops knew that the top offseason priority was to upgrade the running game to take the pressure off Heisman Winning QB Jason White (Heisman finalist TY). Stoops immediately signed PS#1 RB Adrian Peterson and the rest is history as "AD" (All-Day) had one of the finest freshman campaigns in NCAA history. Peterson (Heisman finalist) bulled his way to 1,843 yds (5.9) despite splitting time early in the year with Kejuan Jones (504, 4.0). With LB's now having to genuinely respect play fakes, Jason White was sk'd just 7 times all year (16 in L/4 of '03) and he was able to remain healthy all season for the first time in his 6 year career. White had another terrific season avg 247 ypg (65%) with a 33-6 ratio. Mark Clayton had fewer opportunities but still hauled in 62 rec (13.8) with 8 TD's. Travis Wilson (43 rec, 14.0, 9 TD) and Mark Bradley (21, 20.2, 7) also are quality playmakers. The OL is anchored by Outland Winner OT Jammal Brown and Rimington finalist C Vince Carter. OU finished with our #4 offense. OU's defense (#1) remained the team's solid backbone with the DL leading the way. Dan Cody (1st Tm Big 12, 9 sks, 6 tfl), Jonathan Jackson (1st Tm Big 12, 8 sks) and Larry Birdine (7 sks) gave OU what Stoops hailed as its best DE play ever. The DT position was thin after the departure of preseason AA candidate Dusty Dvoracek but they were able to piece together a quality 3 man rotation. OU allowed just 86 rush ypg (2.8) with 38 sks. Lance Mitchell (72 tkls, 10 tfl) returned from an ACL injury to lead the LB corps. The secondary allowed just 194 ypg (55%) with a 10-8 ratio to rank #20 in pass eff D despite playing without top cover CB Antonio Perkins for a number of games. After the backups were burned for several long passes vs Okla St and A&M, Stoops burned Marcus Walker's (PS#2) redshirt. With Walker in the lineup and the return of Perkins, OU allowed just 84 ypg (49%) with a 0-2 ratio L/3 games. The Sooners have one of the finest safety combinations around in FS Brodney Pool (85 tkls, 9 pbu) and SS Donte Nicholson (66, 6).

                  For USC AA Reggie Bush is a dangerous returnman avg 26.4 on KR's (#10 NCAA) and 16.0 on PR's (#9 NCAA) with 2 TD's. They have a top flight punter in Tom Malone who LY would have finished #1 in the NCAA in avg but did not have enough attempts. This year he was 10th with a 43.8 avg and a team net 42.4 with 17 inside the 20. PK Ryan Killeen struggled this season only hitting 14-23 (4-9 40+) with a long of 42 but looked to have regained his confidence hitting 5 of 5 (USC record) FG's against UCLA. The Trojans finished #24 in our special teams rankings (#32 incl K) due to the below avg coverage units that allowed 21.4 on KR's and 9.5 on PR's with 2 of their punts blocked. OU ranked #18 in special teams (#45 incl K) headed by their terrific coverage units as they allowed just 15.7 on KR's and 4.2 on PR's. PR Antonio Perkins (9.2) tied the NCAA career record with 8 PR TD's but missed most of the season due to an inj. KR Mark Bradley avg'd just 18.4. P Blake Ferguson avg'd 41.8 with a 39.1 net but did drop 2 snaps which led to opp's TD's. K Trey DiCarlo struggled so badly (8-16 with L/35) that Stoops pulled the RS off of true frosh Garrett Hartley in the 11th game of the season. Hartley hasn't att'd a FG yet but is 10-10 on PAT's.

                  Having the top 4 Heisman Trophy vote getters on hand, along with the teams having our #4 & #5 offenses and #1 & #2 defenses, these are CLEARLY the best two teams in the NCAA and this is a TRUE National Title game. At the start of the year we called for this matchup in the Orange Bowl and called Oklahoma the best team in the country (only 1 of 2 magazines to pick the Sooners #1). Now that their D is healthy they are the best team in the country and Stoops will have his team well motivated for this. USC has looked beatable many times this year (Virg Tech, Stanford, Cal, Ore St, UCLA) and this is by FAR the best team they will face this year. We feel the Sooners should be favored (see checklist, page 29).

                  FORECAST: OKLAHOMA 31 Usc 23

                  RATING 4*Oklahoma

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                  • #24
                    hey guys great job!!!

                    Looking for

                    alatex- super
                    sebastian
                    billy colemen 4*
                    tony george

                    thanks
                    Get the best line possible....or you can just gamble!

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by jfk1203
                      can someone post sebastian 100* sugar bowl, he is on fire lately..
                      For a "mere" $69 discounted rate you can sign up and find out along with his other plays.
                      As much as I do respect his picks(that is reason I post his comp. every day), the fact of the matter is that he has a swollen head and his daily so-called discounted service is not worth $69.
                      I don''t use services very often, but there are some very fine services out there at least as good as Sebastian and at a much cheaper rate; All Star Sports for one charges $49 for an ENTIRE week, and his picks are every bit as good if not better as Sebastian's.(this is not a commercial only a comparison to make a point).
                      Personally I think Sebastian ought to come off his high horse and charge maybe $20-$25 a day for ALL his picks, not this crap where each category is segmented, and you have to pay for each sport or each category within the sport.
                      Sorry for the rant, but I wanted to get it off my chest.
                      Of course I will post his freebie later after it is posted;as they say "the best things in life are free". and that applies to picks INCLUDING the many FREE cappers here at this GREAT site.
                      I would bet that most of them would equal or exceed Sebastian's picks(or for that matter most paid cappers) in any one on one contest.;

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                      • #26
                        Net Prophet


                        College football:

                        USC -1 over Oklahoma
                        (recommendation on total:* UNDER 53')

                        College hoop:

                        BYU +11 over St. Mary's
                        Get the best line possible....or you can just gamble!

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                        • #27
                          A few comps(from Northcoast):
                          Great lakes-4* Minn.
                          Stan Lisowski-3* San Francisco
                          Last edited by savage1; 01-04-2005, 12:19 PM.

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                          • #28
                            Tin-thanks for the writeup by Phil Steele.
                            I still maintain thoiugh that Phil goes on too long and is too full of himself ,and that about 90% of what is written in that writeup has absolutely no effect on what will happen tonight;this is a Bowl Game, and you can throw most of stats out;the intangibles and such things as motivation, coaching, etc. are what count.
                            Last edited by savage1; 01-04-2005, 12:24 PM.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by BettorsChat
                              You should know that since you're him you dick. Do you actually think you can post under more than 1 name on here and I wouldn't find out?

                              p layswinbig is his other name
                              LMAO

                              betonthese owned by BettorsChat.
                              Every
                              Villain
                              Is
                              Lemons

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                              • #30
                                Maxxpicks Orange Bowl Breakdown









                                Quarterbacks



                                Jason White has been waiting one year for this game and should be very motivated to win after coming very close in last season’s title game. Matt Leinart is having a great season and wants to win another national championship but will have the burden of being a marked man after winning the Heisman Trophy. The key in this game will be which QB performs better and we have to give the nod to the Sooners leader. Jason White is a 6th year senior who came back specifically to win a national title and is much more mature than his counterpart. Advantage – Oklahoma



                                Offense



                                USC runs a very high-powered offense led by running backs Lendal White and Reggie Bush. Bush is one of the top backs in college football but heavily relies on White to clear up space for him. True freshman Dwayne Jarrett is the team’s top receiving threat and creates mismatches with his size. Steve Smith is another talented player that brings maturity to the lineup after missing the first 5 games with a broken leg.



                                Oklahoma running back Adrian Peterson is the best running back in America and could become on the best ever after rushing for over 1800 yards as a freshman. Backup runner Kejuan Jones is a very talented player who would start on most other teams and can provide a boost for the offense. Senior Mark Clayton is one of the best receivers in America and will not allow teams to crowd the line waiting for Peterson. Travis Wilson has over 600 receiving yards and is a dangerous deep threat. Fullback J.D. Runnels is a bruising blocker that can run the ball if needed. Advantage – Oklahoma





                                Defense



                                The Sooners defense is led by defensive end Dan Cody who is arguably the best at his position in all of college football. Lance Mitchell leads a strong group of linebackers who gets help from big play DE Larry Birdine. Senior Antonio Perkins is the Sooners best cover corner while FS Brodney Pool is one of the best in America.



                                USC relies heavily on Linebackers Lofa Tatupu and Matt Grootegoed to make up for a talented but inexperienced secondary. The defensive front is one of the best in America led by All American DT Shaun Cody who simply blows by opponents with his mobility. Advantage – Even



                                Coaching



                                Oklahoma head coach Bob Stoops is simply outstanding at competing for a national championship every year. He is a workaholic who has led his program to 3 national title games in 5 years. He has been very intent on winning it all this year after getting coming up short a year ago. USC head coach Pete Carroll is a fantastic recruiter who has built USC into a rising power on the national scene but we have to give the edge to the Sooners. Bob Stoops has more title game experience and is determined to not let anyone out coach him after losing to LSU last year in the title game. Advantage – Oklahoma



                                Intangibles



                                Key Injuries – USC Running Back Lendale White is still not 100% after recovering from a high ankle sprain in the season finale against UCLA. It is very crucial for USC that he can play because without him they will not be able to mix up their offense and all the defensive focus will turn to Reggie Bush.
                                Heisman Hype – Matt Leinart is this year’s lucky winner and will have a huge target on his back especially after beating Sooners Jason White and Adrian Peterson. All the press that comes with the award can be draining and take attention off the title game.
                                Motivation – Oklahoma has every reason in the world to want to win this game after losing to LSU last year in the title game. They have worked all year on one goal and that was to get redemption by winning a national title. Southern Cal has already won a share of the title last year and may not be as hungry to win another one. Advantage – Oklahoma



                                Final Analysis



                                Oklahoma is the better team on paper and should have an advantage playing in Florida where they won the national championship 5 years ago. The biggest key will be if USC can stop Adrian Peterson from having a huge game. We think Oklahoma is the more physical team and will have a huge advantage with their offensive line that will allow Peterson to have a huge game. Look for the Sooners to come out fired up and win this game by double digits.

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