Wednesday Play$$$!!!!

[Phil Helmuth]

Originally posted by diesel
I am dissapointed to see this if this is his actual stats per day. Basically if these stats are reliable what you are pointing out is that RJ is no better than one of the scamdicappers, I hope it isn't true

just a popularity contest here. not professional at all. if this place didnt make me laugh with some sort of scandal everyday theres no reason to come here.


im sorry but this place has changed alot. naked girls are common avatars. people have fake records and are stealing picks. its a joke

[10DimeBry]

im sorry but this place has changed alot. naked girls are common avatars. people have fake records and are stealing picks. its a joke [/B][/QUOTE]

Whos stealing picks?? I beg you to say that I'm stealing picks, I never stole a pick in my life. W/L the picks are mine. I never claimed to be GOD like someone from here. All I do is post plays thats it. I can tell you that 100%.

[surveyor]

I do not consider posting plays found at another forum as stealing plays. But denying that you did when it is in black and white is wrong. Just admit it and go on. Hey we are all here to find winners. That is all I care about. But something is wrong here.

[fats12]

In real life I am skinny....Sorry guys!

[wayne1218]

If what surveyor say's is true then it needs to change. It is not something we promote here. I hope it isn't true because it is deception if it is. PICKJOCKEY was caught editing his threads from losing teams to winning ones and making records much better than what they are. He was banned because it is not a place where we will tolerate deception when people try to come here for financial gain. If it's true then it's a problem and it needs to change. RJ i really hope it's not true but surveyor has been here quite awhile and he has never stirred the pot for no reason before. If it is then i agree with his thoughts. I for one and many others work hard to post plays daily and keep an honest record for the new viewer's to see. Win or Lose. If you don't keep a record that's fine, but don't put a false and glamorous one out there for views either!

[wayne1218]

Originally posted by surveyor
Not trying to say that at all. Just do not like people boasting when the record is false. I made that list up late last night and have not proofed it but it is not far off. no where near 70%

I just went back a little too and you are right about one thing. The numbers don't add up and are not right.

[rented mule]

Originally posted by wayne1218
If what surveyor say's is true then it needs to change. It is not something we promote here. I hope it isn't true because it is deception if it is. PICKJOCKEY was caught editing his threads from losing teams to winning ones and making records much better than what they are. He was banned because it is not a place where we will tolerate deception when people try to come here for financial gain. If it's true then it's a problem and it needs to change. RJ i really hope it's not true but surveyor has been here quite awhile and he has never stirred the pot for no reason before. If it is then i agree with his thoughts. I for one and many others work hard to post plays daily and keep an honest record for the new viewer's to see. Win or Lose. If you don't keep a record that's fine, but don't put a false and glamorous one out there for views either!

I think his silence about this is an indictment in and of itself. I've been reading this board for 6 months and i've never seen him start another thread to add a late play, which he did tonight. I hope there's a logical explanation because he seemed like a genuine guy. Hard to tell on the internet, though.

This is also why I always tell people that if you're going to go down in flames, do it with your own plays. Especially over the internet, you never know what you're dealing with.

[bfpsu]

I hope it's not true and if it's not I apologize but in the last year I've seen many people come on this site and claim to be on the up and up and then turn out to be something else-Pickjockey, Sportstipster, SP Connection, MMM, etc. Hopefully Wayne and BC will get to the bottom of this.

[wayne1218]

Not looking good............

bfpsu, you're right, we have seen this stuff 100 times here before. It can be disappointing at times.



Looking back to just last Friday. You posted a record of (64-30)

Friday = (2-3) -6.90 Units
Saturday = (0-1) -11 Units
Sunday = (0-4) -12 Units
Monday = (2-1) +2.80 Units
Tuesday = (1-2) +.40 Units
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(5-11) -26.70 Units

Shouldn't that put your "Winner's & Loser's" at (69-41) not (71-39). That's 2 wins in place of 2 losses in just the last 5 days. I went back further and kept noticing loser's one night being switched to winners in the record days later. Alot of gaps in posting the record made it hard to keep up but that's why we have pen & paper. Ron what's going on here??? I never assumed you would be one to check into but alot of friction has followed you here lately and i'm trying to figure out why. What's the deal?

[Phil Helmuth]

I feel bad ya know. People look up to him. Im surprised noone came up with this sooner, so many people follow him, you would think your bankrolls would show. Seems like a nice guy but its the Internet. I mean I just stopped posting because I hit a horrible streak. There can only be 1 right thing to do, and it's going to cause problems and chaos, but you have to ban him.

[bfpsu]

Wayne,
Your right. It's very disappointing. Looking back now I can see some of the same red flags as posters such as Pickjockey-Bragging about one's record, drawing attention to one's thread's, posting a great record. Unfortunately in this field if something appears to good to be true it usually is.

[wayne1218]

Once you post plays and the games start you should NEVER edit that part of the thread. People can figure out a win or a loss on their own. Every time we have seen people edit the pick part of a thread after the games are final it has eventually proven to be a problem.

[ItsBillBelichick]

Originally posted by surveyor
The Nba record is bogus. I do not have a problem with anyone on this site unless you start boasting about a posted record when it is in error.
Here they are if you find a error let me know.

11/2 4-0
11/3 3-5
11/4 2-0
11/5 3-3
11/8 1-1
11/9 2-2
11/10 3-0
11/11 1-0
11/12 1-1
11/14 2-0
11/15 1-0
11/16 0-1
11/17 1-1
11/19 1-3
11/22 1-0
11/23 2-1-1
11/24 2-0
11/26 1-6
11/27 1-2
11/28 3-0
11/29 1-2
11/30 3-2
12/1 5-2
12/2 2-0
12/3 1-2
12/6 3-2
12/7 2-0
12/8 3-0
12/9 2-0
12/10 1-4
12/11 0-1
12/12 0-4
12/13 2-0
12/14 1-2
total 61-47

31-29 last 60

Our numbers are close.

I came up with 62-45. :confused:

[Spark]

This is horrible... This is not a good night here at BC ... I am not going to be persuaded either way till we hear from RJ ... Wayne, as usual you have valid points but I am sure you know what I mean here ... as far as banning ... Come on

[fats12]

Winning percentage of 57.9 is very good....He is still making money, all that matters.....If people were following him to the play, this would have come out long ago....No harm no foul.....Boasting is part of the fun....Just my two cents....


Fatman