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  • Its now official.... Suspensions out. Artest done for year

    NBA takes hard line against Pacers, Artest (gone for year)


    Nov. 21, 2004
    SportsLine.com wire reports



    NEW YORK -- Ron Artest was suspended for the rest of the season Sunday as the NBA came down hard on three members of the Indiana Pacers for fighting with fans when a melee broke out at the end of a game at the Detroit Pistons.
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    Overall, nine players from the teams were banned for 143 games, including some of the harshest penalties the league ever issued. Artest is the first player to be suspended for nearly an entire season for a fight during a game.

    Indiana's Stephen Jackson was suspended for 30 games and Jermaine O'Neal for 25. Detroit's Ben Wallace -- whose shove of Artest after a foul led to the five-minute fracas -- drew a six-game ban, while Pacers guard Anthony Johnson got five games.

    Four players were suspended for a game apiece: Indiana's Reggie Miller, and Detroit's Chauncey Billups, Elden Campbell and Derrick Coleman.

    All of the suspensions are without pay.

    Artest, O'Neal and Jackson -- who all threw punches at fans in the stands or on the court at the end of the nationally televised Pacers-Pistons game Friday night -- began serving their suspensions Saturday. Indiana, limited to just six players because of the suspensions and injuries, dropped an 86-83 decision to Orlando.
    Ron Artest won't be donning his Pacers jersey for the rest of the season. (AP)
    Ron Artest won't be donning his Pacers jersey for the rest of the season.(AP)
    "The actions of the players involved wildly exceeded the professionalism and self-control that should fairly be expected from NBA players," NBA commissioner David Stern said in a statement, adding that the league must not "allow our sport to be debased by what seem to be declining expectations."

    The NBA also has to "redefine the bounds of acceptable conduct for fans attending our games and resolve to permanently exclude those who overstep those bounds," Stern said.

    He added that security procedures in all NBA arenas will be reviewed and rules need to be added to prevent a repeat of what happened at Auburn Hills, Mich., on Friday.

    The brawl was particularly violent, with Artest and Jackson bolting into the stands near center court and throwing punches at fans after debris was tossed at the players.

    Later, fans who came onto the court were punched in the face by Artest and O'Neal.

    Nine people were treated for injuries, and police are investigating possible criminal charges.


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    Wallace began the fracas by delivering a hard, two-handed shove to Artest after Wallace was fouled on a drive to the basket with 45.9 seconds remaining. After the fight ended, the referees called off the rest of the game.
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    The initial skirmish wasn't all that bad, with Artest retreating to the scorer's table and lying atop it after Wallace sent him reeling backward. But when a fan tossed a cup at Artest, he stormed into the stands, throwing punches as he climbed over seats.

    Jackson joined Artest and threw punches at fans, who punched back. At one point, a chair was tossed into the fray.

    The most recent example of an NBA player going into the stands and punching a fan came in February 1995, when Vernon Maxwell of the Houston Rockets pummeled a spectator in Portland. The league suspended him for 10 games and fined him $20,000.

    Among the harshest non-drug-related penalties in NBA history was a one-year suspension of Latrell Sprewell -- later reduced to 68 games -- for choking Golden State Warriors coach P.J. Carlesimo at practice.

    Kermit Washington of the Los Angeles Lakers drew a 60-day (26-game) suspension in 1977 for a punch that broke the jaw of the Houston Rockets' Rudy Tomjanovich during a game, while Dennis Rodman was suspended 11 games for kicking a courtside cameraman in the groin and six games for head-butting a referee.

    Artest was benched for two games this month for asking Pacers coach Rick Carlisle for time off because of a busy schedule that included promoting a rap album.

    Artest was suspended twice by the NBA last season, once for leaving the bench during a fracas at a Pacers-Celtics playoff game; the other for elbowing Portland's Derek Anderson. During the 2002-03 season, Artest was suspended five times by the NBA and once by the Pacers for a total of 12 games.

    Artest also once grabbed a television camera and smashed it to the ground after a loss to the Knicks two years ago.

  • #2
    playoffs

    Will the Artest suspension count for the playoffs as well?
    Let it Ride

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    • #3
      that is

      if they make the playoffs
      Let it Ride

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      • #4
        Even when a pitcher throws and/or hits a batter in the head deliberately, which could actually KILL someone, the pitcher doesn't get a suspension like that.
        Until/if the instigating fans in this case receive an apporpriate and equal jail sentence, I think punishment is way in excess of the ''crime."
        Last edited by savage1; 11-21-2004, 06:58 PM.

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        • #5
          After watching what occured in the Det/Ind game,I look at the other side as well. Ron Artest went overboard by going into the stands but it was the fans that provoked it too.Throwing water and water bottles onto visiting players isn't cool either. By no means am I sticking up for the troubled Artest but in some way I think he and other Pacers' players were protecting themselves from serious harm. I think the league should watch the tapes a little closer and see which fans are just as guilty and take action towards them. For instance,the fan that threw the water bottle or the fan that threw a chair.Punches were thrown by fans too.

          I think its the fans fault just as much as the players...
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          • #6
            Wallace should have been given at least a 30 game suspension also.

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            • #7
              Interesting that a number of people define "defending themselves" as going into the stands after being doused with a plastic cup and water. Where is Artest DEFENDING himself against bodily harm? He was just as wet from sweat. I am not saying that what the fans did was right in any way at all, but IF he doesn't go into the stands, and even stays on the court, nothing happens. The fan gets pointed out and arrested. (assuming they point out the correct one)
              Vince Carter saying he would have done the same thing because Artest was "disrespected?" Give me a break with the street cred, gangsta wanna be, hip-hop mentality. Fans=wrong...players=more wrong
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              • #8
                I am a huge Sox fan, but lets say Pedro beaned someone or tried to do so, and it was obvious to all.
                He would get suspended and fined, bur fat chance that he would get suspended for the season; if anything that kind of incident would warrant a season suspension, as it is more serious than merely Artest losing his cool.
                I would give him a month off with stern warning (no pun intended) that if he EVER did it again, then he would be through for the season.
                Wallace gets a token suspension;total miscarriage of justice; Pacers season is essentially over because of one incident.
                Even worse-very little interest on what happens(if anything)to the offending fans.
                Stern should rethink this.
                Last edited by savage1; 11-22-2004, 12:27 AM.

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                • #9
                  The difference is that the beanball is in the context of the game. Just as a flagrant foul is. What sort of suspension do you think Pedro would get if he beaned then went into the stands b/c someone was yelling at him, or threw a drink at him?
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                  • #10
                    I disagree;to me it is the amount of actual physical harm which could be done;a 95 mile an hour fastball could kill someone.
                    Going into stands is wrong, but police can bring it under control before anyone could die.
                    If Pedro went into stands, he should be suspended, but there is ZERO chance it would be for season;money and politics and "who you are" talk and don't forget it.
                    Don't mean to repeat, but just compare Pacers incident with Iraq;I just heard tonight that our casualty lists(1200 dead) don't even include thousands of soldiers who were injured but not in line of fire;who gets suspended or fined over a war where innocent people on both sides DIE, when the former is based on shaky premises?
                    I changed the subject, but I think perspective is needed in what is really serious here.

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                    • #11
                      Comparing what happened in the NBA to the war in Iraq is crazy.

                      Artest was completely in the wrong, no matter what the fans did. He had no right to go into the stands just because someone threw a cup of beer at him. I agree that a person has the right to defend himself, but this was not one of those situations.

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                      • #12
                        Lots of people have "no right' to do things but they do them in the heat of battle, but they don't get as severe punishments as Artest and his teammates got.
                        Something is out of whack, and thats my point;also I think in terms of what our country is doing in Iraq, the comparison has some merit. jmho

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                        • #13
                          Those assholes got the punishments that they deserved. How would you feel if some humongous black man beat the shit out of you because your friend threw a water bottle at him? That just shows how stupid NBA players are. I bet the average IQ of an NBA player couldn't be 80. The average SAT score is only around 600.
                          The 1927 Yankees weren't the best team ever. What everyone fails to realize is that the year before, with the exact same team, they lost to the Cardinals in the World Series.

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                          • #14
                            Also anyone that compares what Ron Artest did to what our country is doing in Iraq is as ignorant and out of date with the people as a Democrat. If you don't like what are country is doing then get the fuck out.
                            The 1927 Yankees weren't the best team ever. What everyone fails to realize is that the year before, with the exact same team, they lost to the Cardinals in the World Series.

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                            • #15
                              Excuse me, but some of the fans, the one who threw things at the players, aren't exactly rocket scientists either.
                              The real crime is that the offending fans probably won't get thrown into the slammer for a few months or suspended for one year from attending games in Detroit.
                              Lets tell both sides of the story here.

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