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[Warrior]

I understand that the whole point of the pay service thread is to share pay service info, but please consider refraining from publicly posting my material at bettorschat or other public forums.

Please consider that while other sheets charge extra for their late games with a late phone call, I do not.

I request an exemption because I'm a little guy. I'm not goldsheet or pointwise. I rely on my SRO as a supplementary income.

When you post my SRO publicly, I make zero that week. It affects my income and my family--unlike other sheets who still get paid for their late releases.

If I had a sizeable enough bankroll I would play the games as secondary income and not have a pay service.

Please consider also that many services, outside of a free pick, do not contribute time and insights. I do that. I do it because I want to and I like to. I prefer to.

I've got some very good stuff on the horizon that have nothing to do with the SRO. I intend on posting these games under my NFL FORMULA III TRACKING thread.

The numbers are coming in, and within a few weeks I'll be posting some really neat stuff as I track these all new formulas against VIRGIN DATA LIVE. These have never been tested against PAST DATA.

This is an exciting project and I would prefer to have my home forum be a part of it. Please refrain from publicly posting my SRO.

Thank you in advance for your cooperation...

dave

[midman]

Speak out!

Dave,

I dont want to agree with you but you make one hell of a case. As you know, the people here are all just trying to help each other out-you know that.

It is interesting though, because I am sure you use some of the information that you get here in your own published material. I have been considering starting a pay for picks kind of system myself, but I dont think I have developed enough of a following for myself.

But putting myself in your shoes I can see where your coming from.

Cant wait to see what your talking about, sounds like some neat and exciting new formulas.

Appreciate all that you contribute and wish you the best of luck.

-mid

[Warrior]

Midman,

Thank you for your comments. I do not use other opinions in my material. I want my material to be exclusive for better or worse.

I'll be up front about one thing, it is not my preference to be in the pay service business. I hope that some of my research and posts here reflects that sentiment.

The simple truth is I found myself in a position a few months ago where it was necessary to take a second job. I chose this instead of something else. That's all.

Ideally, when I am in a position where I do not need a secondary source of income, I would not be in the pay service biz. I would just contribute more than I already do without charging. That's my preference. That's where my heart is. But until then, I am a full blown pay service as a second job.

But if or when I develop a sufficient bankroll to supplement my income by betting the games, heck, that would be the way to go. And, yes, I would play some games from some cappers here. I know who the good ones are because I've done my homework...


NFL FORMULA III TRACKING

I have recently developed 3 NFL Formulas that I want to put to the test.

Usually I research my Formulas versus past results. For these 3 new NFL Formulas, I want to test them FIRST against virgin data this season. If they do okay, THEN I will go back in past seasons without altering the criteria. That way there will be no tweaking or backfitting--just posting the games here according to the criteria of the formula(s).

What I want to do is test 3 different formulas and track them this season at the forum by posting the games. These are not Spread Report games and have nothing to do with the other formulas that will be in my SRO.

In addition to tracking them separately, I want to also track how they do when 2 or more agree. And of course, I'll do the usual and break down the results into Dogs, Faves, Division, Non-Division, Home, and Road. In addition, I will break down the results according to categorical ratings. The plays begin Week Seven.

I do not recommend wagering on the games, but I do expect that--overall--they will either win or break even. These are simply experimental. Here's the blueprint for the RESULTS PAGE:


1.) FORMULA III-Y

RATE 1-99:

HM: 0-0; RD: 0-0; FV: 0-0; DG: 0-0; DV: 0-0; NO: 0-0
HF: 0-0; HD: 0-0; RF: 0-0; RD: 0-0
DHF: 0-0; DHD: 0-0; DRF: 0-0; DRD: 0-0
NHF: 0-0; NHD: 0-0; NRF: 0-0; NRD: 0-0
ALL: 0-0

RATE 100-299:

HM: 0-0; RD: 0-0; FV: 0-0; DG: 0-0; DV: 0-0; NO: 0-0
HF: 0-0; HD: 0-0; RF: 0-0; RD: 0-0
DHF: 0-0; DHD: 0-0; DRF: 0-0; DRD: 0-0
NHF: 0-0; NHD: 0-0; NRF: 0-0; NRD: 0-0
ALL: 0-0

RATE 300-499:

HM: 0-0; RD: 0-0; FV: 0-0; DG: 0-0; DV: 0-0; NO: 0-0
HF: 0-0; HD: 0-0; RF: 0-0; RD: 0-0
DHF: 0-0; DHD: 0-0; DRF: 0-0; DRD: 0-0
NHF: 0-0; NHD: 0-0; NRF: 0-0; NRD: 0-0
ALL: 0-0

RATE 500-999:

HM: 0-0; RD: 0-0; FV: 0-0; DG: 0-0; DV: 0-0; NO: 0-0
HF: 0-0; HD: 0-0; RF: 0-0; RD: 0-0
DHF: 0-0; DHD: 0-0; DRF: 0-0; DRD: 0-0
NHF: 0-0; NHD: 0-0; NRF: 0-0; NRD: 0-0
ALL: 0-0

RATE 1000>:

HM: 0-0; RD: 0-0; FV: 0-0; DG: 0-0; DV: 0-0; NO: 0-0
HF: 0-0; HD: 0-0; RF: 0-0; RD: 0-0
DHF: 0-0; DHD: 0-0; DRF: 0-0; DRD: 0-0
NHF: 0-0; NHD: 0-0; NRF: 0-0; NRD: 0-0
ALL: 0-0

ALL RATINGS FORMULA III-Y:

HM: 0-0; RD: 0-0; FV: 0-0; DG: 0-0; DV: 0-0; NO: 0-0
HF: 0-0; HD: 0-0; RF: 0-0; RD: 0-0
DHF: 0-0; DHD: 0-0; DRF: 0-0; DRD: 0-0
NHF: 0-0; NHD: 0-0; NRF: 0-0; NRD: 0-0
ALL: 0-0


2.) FORMULA III-T

RATE 0.01-0.99:

HM: 0-0; RD: 0-0; FV: 0-0; DG: 0-0; DV: 0-0; NO: 0-0
HF: 0-0; HD: 0-0; RF: 0-0; RD: 0-0
DHF: 0-0; DHD: 0-0; DRF: 0-0; DRD: 0-0
NHF: 0-0; NHD: 0-0; NRF: 0-0; NRD: 0-0
ALL: 0-0

RATE 1.00-1.49:

HM: 0-0; RD: 0-0; FV: 0-0; DG: 0-0; DV: 0-0; NO: 0-0
HF: 0-0; HD: 0-0; RF: 0-0; RD: 0-0
DHF: 0-0; DHD: 0-0; DRF: 0-0; DRD: 0-0
NHF: 0-0; NHD: 0-0; NRF: 0-0; NRD: 0-0
ALL: 0-0

RATE 1.50-1.99:

HM: 0-0; RD: 0-0; FV: 0-0; DG: 0-0; DV: 0-0; NO: 0-0
HF: 0-0; HD: 0-0; RF: 0-0; RD: 0-0
DHF: 0-0; DHD: 0-0; DRF: 0-0; DRD: 0-0
NHF: 0-0; NHD: 0-0; NRF: 0-0; NRD: 0-0
ALL: 0-0

RATE 2.00-2.99:

HM: 0-0; RD: 0-0; FV: 0-0; DG: 0-0; DV: 0-0; NO: 0-0
HF: 0-0; HD: 0-0; RF: 0-0; RD: 0-0
DHF: 0-0; DHD: 0-0; DRF: 0-0; DRD: 0-0
NHF: 0-0; NHD: 0-0; NRF: 0-0; NRD: 0-0
ALL: 0-0

RATE 3.00>:

HM: 0-0; RD: 0-0; FV: 0-0; DG: 0-0; DV: 0-0; NO: 0-0
HF: 0-0; HD: 0-0; RF: 0-0; RD: 0-0
DHF: 0-0; DHD: 0-0; DRF: 0-0; DRD: 0-0
NHF: 0-0; NHD: 0-0; NRF: 0-0; NRD: 0-0
ALL: 0-0

ALL RATINGS FORMULA III-T:

HM: 0-0; RD: 0-0; FV: 0-0; DG: 0-0; DV: 0-0; NO: 0-0
HF: 0-0; HD: 0-0; RF: 0-0; RD: 0-0
DHF: 0-0; DHD: 0-0; DRF: 0-0; DRD: 0-0
NHF: 0-0; NHD: 0-0; NRF: 0-0; NRD: 0-0
ALL: 0-0


3.) FORMULA III-P

RATE 1.00-2.99:

HM: 0-0; RD: 0-0; FV: 0-0; DG: 0-0; DV: 0-0; NO: 0-0
HF: 0-0; HD: 0-0; RF: 0-0; RD: 0-0
DHF: 0-0; DHD: 0-0; DRF: 0-0; DRD: 0-0
NHF: 0-0; NHD: 0-0; NRF: 0-0; NRD: 0-0
ALL: 0-0

RATE 3.00-5.99:

HM: 0-0; RD: 0-0; FV: 0-0; DG: 0-0; DV: 0-0; NO: 0-0
HF: 0-0; HD: 0-0; RF: 0-0; RD: 0-0
DHF: 0-0; DHD: 0-0; DRF: 0-0; DRD: 0-0
NHF: 0-0; NHD: 0-0; NRF: 0-0; NRD: 0-0
ALL: 0-0

RATE 6.00-6.99:

HM: 0-0; RD: 0-0; FV: 0-0; DG: 0-0; DV: 0-0; NO: 0-0
HF: 0-0; HD: 0-0; RF: 0-0; RD: 0-0
DHF: 0-0; DHD: 0-0; DRF: 0-0; DRD: 0-0
NHF: 0-0; NHD: 0-0; NRF: 0-0; NRD: 0-0
ALL: 0-0

RATE 7.00-9.99:

HM: 0-0; RD: 0-0; FV: 0-0; DG: 0-0; DV: 0-0; NO: 0-0
HF: 0-0; HD: 0-0; RF: 0-0; RD: 0-0
DHF: 0-0; DHD: 0-0; DRF: 0-0; DRD: 0-0
NHF: 0-0; NHD: 0-0; NRF: 0-0; NRD: 0-0
ALL: 0-0

RATE 10.00>:

HM: 0-0; RD: 0-0; FV: 0-0; DG: 0-0; DV: 0-0; NO: 0-0
HF: 0-0; HD: 0-0; RF: 0-0; RD: 0-0
DHF: 0-0; DHD: 0-0; DRF: 0-0; DRD: 0-0
NHF: 0-0; NHD: 0-0; NRF: 0-0; NRD: 0-0
ALL: 0-0

ALL RATINGS FORMULA III-P:

HM: 0-0; RD: 0-0; FV: 0-0; DG: 0-0; DV: 0-0; NO: 0-0
HF: 0-0; HD: 0-0; RF: 0-0; RD: 0-0
DHF: 0-0; DHD: 0-0; DRF: 0-0; DRD: 0-0
NHF: 0-0; NHD: 0-0; NRF: 0-0; NRD: 0-0
ALL: 0-0


4.) ANY 2 AGREE:

HM: 0-0; RD: 0-0; FV: 0-0; DG: 0-0; DV: 0-0; NO: 0-0
HF: 0-0; HD: 0-0; RF: 0-0; RD: 0-0
DHF: 0-0; DHD: 0-0; DRF: 0-0; DRD: 0-0
NHF: 0-0; NHD: 0-0; NRF: 0-0; NRD: 0-0
ALL: 0-0


5.) Y+T AGREE:

HM: 0-0; RD: 0-0; FV: 0-0; DG: 0-0; DV: 0-0; NO: 0-0
HF: 0-0; HD: 0-0; RF: 0-0; RD: 0-0
DHF: 0-0; DHD: 0-0; DRF: 0-0; DRD: 0-0
NHF: 0-0; NHD: 0-0; NRF: 0-0; NRD: 0-0
ALL: 0-0


6.) Y+P AGREE:

HM: 0-0; RD: 0-0; FV: 0-0; DG: 0-0; DV: 0-0; NO: 0-0
HF: 0-0; HD: 0-0; RF: 0-0; RD: 0-0
DHF: 0-0; DHD: 0-0; DRF: 0-0; DRD: 0-0
NHF: 0-0; NHD: 0-0; NRF: 0-0; NRD: 0-0
ALL: 0-0


7.) T+P AGREE:

HM: 0-0; RD: 0-0; FV: 0-0; DG: 0-0; DV: 0-0; NO: 0-0
HF: 0-0; HD: 0-0; RF: 0-0; RD: 0-0
DHF: 0-0; DHD: 0-0; DRF: 0-0; DRD: 0-0
NHF: 0-0; NHD: 0-0; NRF: 0-0; NRD: 0-0
ALL: 0-0


8.) ALL 3 AGREE:

HM: 0-0; RD: 0-0; FV: 0-0; DG: 0-0; DV: 0-0; NO: 0-0
HF: 0-0; HD: 0-0; RF: 0-0; RD: 0-0
DHF: 0-0; DHD: 0-0; DRF: 0-0; DRD: 0-0
NHF: 0-0; NHD: 0-0; NRF: 0-0; NRD: 0-0
ALL: 0-0


9.) ALL 3 AGREE, EACH HAVING A LEVEL 3 RATING OR HIGHER:

HM: 0-0; RD: 0-0; FV: 0-0; DG: 0-0; DV: 0-0; NO: 0-0
HF: 0-0; HD: 0-0; RF: 0-0; RD: 0-0
DHF: 0-0; DHD: 0-0; DRF: 0-0; DRD: 0-0
NHF: 0-0; NHD: 0-0; NRF: 0-0; NRD: 0-0
ALL: 0-0


The games will be posted most likely on Thursday or Friday. I will find a general consensus line and adjust it "off the hook". If the general consensus is 5.5, I would adjust it to +6.0 or -5.0 depending on which side of the game the formula picks. Just wins and losses will be tracked, not pushes. There will be no editing on the page where the games are posted. I will edit the RESULTS PAGE to reflect it's YTD RECORD.

Have fun with this one, it's a keeper...

dave

[Warrior]

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