TNF - Bears at Packers
October 19, 2016
Chicago at Green Bay (-7.5, 46), 8:25 pm ET, CBS/NFLN
Weather hasn’t really played a factor in many games this season, most memorably impacting a couple of games via rain and that Ravens-‘Skins game with winds from the waning fury of Hurricane Matthew. This Thursday night game will be played in 40-degree temperatures, a reminder that the days where Mother Nature will play a role are drawing closer.
The fact weather has been so mild is another reason why it’s so concerning that Aaron Rodgers hasn’t looked right. Rodgers is completing 60.2 percent of his passes, ranking 23rd in the NFL. Over his career, he’s a 65-percent passer, but has seen that completion percentage dip every year since topping out at 68.3 back in 2011. It’s no crime if he’s not going to age as gracefully as Tom Brady, but the drop-off has been unexpected enough to question whether he’s injured.
It’s not like Rodgers has had to deal with multiple elite defenses this season. Outside of the Vikings, who held Green Bay to a season-low two scoring drives, the Jaguars, Lions, Giants and Cowboys don’t boast the type of resistance that should be rattling a two-time MVP who looked like he’d be fine with top target Jordy Nelson back.
Is this a slump? Last week’s careless interception was Rodgers’ third in two games. Although he threw for seven touchdowns and just one pick in September, there were instances of sloppy play before the month began. Considering the talent at receiver that the Packers enjoy, Rodgers’ struggles are to blame.
“'I just think it's accuracy,” Rodgers said. “I've missed a couple that I'm used to hitting. And you hit those and you take away the throwaways, being able to hit some things on some of those plays instead of extending and throwing the ball away and we're right where we need to be.”
Eddie Lacy’s ankle isn’t expected to be healed enough for him to suit up, so the Packers will be relying on Rodgers to right himself without much support from the ground game. James Starks remains out with a knee injury that may keep him out into November, which means the newly acquired Knile Davis will arrive from Kansas City and immediately be in the mix for meaningful snaps.
The Bears haven't had QB Jay Cutler (thumb) and RB Jeremy Langford (ankle) for the past few games and should see them miss another due to a short week. Brian Hoyer has thrown for 300 yards in each of his four starts, throwing six touchdown passes without being intercepted. He's averaged just over 30 completions per game, while rookie Jordan Howard and the versatile Ka'Deem Carey have tried to hold down the rushing attack.
Red-zone efficiency has been a major issue for Chicago, which has settled for six Connor Barth field goals in its last two losses, falling to 1-5, its worst start since 2004. The Bears have averaged 1.5 yards per carry in the red zone and rank 24th in points per possession when reaching the opponents' 20-yard line. Regardless of Rodgers' struggles, that's not going to cut it in order to pull an upset at Lambeau.
Chicago Bears
Season win total: 7.5 (Over +145, Under -165)
Odds to win NFC North: 8/1 to 200/1
Odds to win NFC: 20/1 to 500/1
Odds to win Super Bowl: 40/1 to 1000/1
Green Bay Packers
Season win total: 10.5 (Over -170, Under +150)
Odds to win NFC North: 5/8 to 2/1
Odds to win NFC: 5/1 to 6/1
Odds to win Super Bowl: 50/1 to 100/1
LINE MOVEMENT
The Packers were 4-to-5 to win the NFC North last week, the first time they weren't the listed favorite since Minnesota was +100. After falling to Dallas, Green Bay saw the WestgateLV SuperBook offer up 2-to-1 odds on a division title, the highest payout that's been available on them thus far this season. After losing at home to Jacksonville, the Bears were placed at 200-to-1 to win the North after entering Sunday at 80-to-1. Bettors who faded the that preseason win total for Chicago have to love their position, but Packer-backers have to be a little concerned that the OVER looks so far away. As far as this matchup is concerned, most books set the opening number at Packers -9, though CG Technology went -10. After hovering around 9 and 9.5 all Monday, many bettors took the points and books adjusted, settling in at 7.5 at most books including the WestgateLV SuperBook. There are some -8s are out there. The total appears to have settled at 46.
INJURY CONCERNS
In addition to the aforementioned injury situations covered above, both teams have other issues. Bears LG Josh Sitton, formerly a Green Bay mainstay at guard, will be out with an ankle injury. Eddie Royal, who has been heavily targeted by Hoyer and has 18 receptions over his last three games, will miss Thursday’s game with a toe injury. Cameron Meredith will continue to serve in a heightened role. TE Zach Miller is dealing with a rib injury, CBs Tracy Porter (knee), Bryce Callahan (hamstring) and Deiondre Hall (ankle) could all miss this contest, which would leave the Bears awfully thin in the secondary.
Green Bay also has major concerns in its defensive backfield since corners Damarious Randall and Quinten Rollins have been ruled out with groin injuries. The Packers have already been without Sam Shields all season, so their secondary will be relying on some inexperienced players here. Up front, the Pack will have Brian Bulaga (back) in the mix and also got good news regarding Randall Cobb’s back and should have his play-making ability out there.
WOULD P-A-N-I-C FOLLOW PACK LOSS?
Since Rodgers took over for Brett Favre back in 2008, Green Bay’s worst start through six games has been 3-3, so it’s not like an upset would leave them in unprecedented territory. In fact, the Pack went out and won a Super Bowl after finding themselves at .500 through six games back in 2010, but a loss would be the fifth in their last eight home games, where Rodgers once seemed invincible.
Rodgers is 12-4 in his career against the Bears and has thrown for 35 touchdowns against his team’s oldest rival, so no one is going to be buying the r-e-l-a-x routine if he can’t beat this depleted group. Questions about whether the magic with head coach Mike McCarthy has worn off have already started being whispered, so there’s certainly a sense of desperation settling in. Former Packer standout WR Greg Jennings has piled on, pointing out that Rodgers has been able to avoid serious criticism over the years but can no longer do so. With the Thursday night stage to himself, Rodgers’ play will be heavily scrutinized.
RECENT MEETINGS (Green Bay 4-1 SU, 4-1 ATS last five; OVER 4-1)
11/26/15 Chicago 17-13 at Green Bay (GB -7.5, 45)
9/13/15 Green Bay 31-23 at Chicago (GB -6, 48.5)
11/9/14 Green Bay 55-14 vs. San Diego (GB -9, 53)
9/28/14 Green Bay 38-17 at Chicago (GB -2, 51)
12/29/13 Green Bay 33-28 at Chicago (GB -3, 51)
PACKERS AS A HOME FAVORITE
The Packers were 9-0 including the postseason in 2014, going 6-2-1 against the spread, but have slumped at Lambeau over the past year-plus. In '15, they were 5-3 SU and just 4-4 ATS, but covered only one of their last five. Green Bay is 1-1-1 ATS this season in winning two of its first three, but is just 1-2 at Lambeau over the past three seasons against these Bears.
BEARS AS A ROAD UNDERDOG
Chicago hasn't covered a road game this season, arriving in Green Bay 0-3. The Bears actually went 4-1 SU and ATS as road dogs to close out 2015, which includes the 17-13 Thursday night upset last Thanksgiving.
NEXT WEEK'S NUMBERS POSTED
The Westgate opens its advance lines for the following week on Tuesdays and Week 8 has Packers as 2.5-point underdogs at Atlanta in a matchup to look forward to. The Bears are a 5.5-point home underdog as they square off against Minnesota in another national showcase. Jay Cutler could return Monday night.
October 19, 2016
Chicago at Green Bay (-7.5, 46), 8:25 pm ET, CBS/NFLN
Weather hasn’t really played a factor in many games this season, most memorably impacting a couple of games via rain and that Ravens-‘Skins game with winds from the waning fury of Hurricane Matthew. This Thursday night game will be played in 40-degree temperatures, a reminder that the days where Mother Nature will play a role are drawing closer.
The fact weather has been so mild is another reason why it’s so concerning that Aaron Rodgers hasn’t looked right. Rodgers is completing 60.2 percent of his passes, ranking 23rd in the NFL. Over his career, he’s a 65-percent passer, but has seen that completion percentage dip every year since topping out at 68.3 back in 2011. It’s no crime if he’s not going to age as gracefully as Tom Brady, but the drop-off has been unexpected enough to question whether he’s injured.
It’s not like Rodgers has had to deal with multiple elite defenses this season. Outside of the Vikings, who held Green Bay to a season-low two scoring drives, the Jaguars, Lions, Giants and Cowboys don’t boast the type of resistance that should be rattling a two-time MVP who looked like he’d be fine with top target Jordy Nelson back.
Is this a slump? Last week’s careless interception was Rodgers’ third in two games. Although he threw for seven touchdowns and just one pick in September, there were instances of sloppy play before the month began. Considering the talent at receiver that the Packers enjoy, Rodgers’ struggles are to blame.
“'I just think it's accuracy,” Rodgers said. “I've missed a couple that I'm used to hitting. And you hit those and you take away the throwaways, being able to hit some things on some of those plays instead of extending and throwing the ball away and we're right where we need to be.”
Eddie Lacy’s ankle isn’t expected to be healed enough for him to suit up, so the Packers will be relying on Rodgers to right himself without much support from the ground game. James Starks remains out with a knee injury that may keep him out into November, which means the newly acquired Knile Davis will arrive from Kansas City and immediately be in the mix for meaningful snaps.
The Bears haven't had QB Jay Cutler (thumb) and RB Jeremy Langford (ankle) for the past few games and should see them miss another due to a short week. Brian Hoyer has thrown for 300 yards in each of his four starts, throwing six touchdown passes without being intercepted. He's averaged just over 30 completions per game, while rookie Jordan Howard and the versatile Ka'Deem Carey have tried to hold down the rushing attack.
Red-zone efficiency has been a major issue for Chicago, which has settled for six Connor Barth field goals in its last two losses, falling to 1-5, its worst start since 2004. The Bears have averaged 1.5 yards per carry in the red zone and rank 24th in points per possession when reaching the opponents' 20-yard line. Regardless of Rodgers' struggles, that's not going to cut it in order to pull an upset at Lambeau.
Chicago Bears
Season win total: 7.5 (Over +145, Under -165)
Odds to win NFC North: 8/1 to 200/1
Odds to win NFC: 20/1 to 500/1
Odds to win Super Bowl: 40/1 to 1000/1
Green Bay Packers
Season win total: 10.5 (Over -170, Under +150)
Odds to win NFC North: 5/8 to 2/1
Odds to win NFC: 5/1 to 6/1
Odds to win Super Bowl: 50/1 to 100/1
LINE MOVEMENT
The Packers were 4-to-5 to win the NFC North last week, the first time they weren't the listed favorite since Minnesota was +100. After falling to Dallas, Green Bay saw the WestgateLV SuperBook offer up 2-to-1 odds on a division title, the highest payout that's been available on them thus far this season. After losing at home to Jacksonville, the Bears were placed at 200-to-1 to win the North after entering Sunday at 80-to-1. Bettors who faded the that preseason win total for Chicago have to love their position, but Packer-backers have to be a little concerned that the OVER looks so far away. As far as this matchup is concerned, most books set the opening number at Packers -9, though CG Technology went -10. After hovering around 9 and 9.5 all Monday, many bettors took the points and books adjusted, settling in at 7.5 at most books including the WestgateLV SuperBook. There are some -8s are out there. The total appears to have settled at 46.
INJURY CONCERNS
In addition to the aforementioned injury situations covered above, both teams have other issues. Bears LG Josh Sitton, formerly a Green Bay mainstay at guard, will be out with an ankle injury. Eddie Royal, who has been heavily targeted by Hoyer and has 18 receptions over his last three games, will miss Thursday’s game with a toe injury. Cameron Meredith will continue to serve in a heightened role. TE Zach Miller is dealing with a rib injury, CBs Tracy Porter (knee), Bryce Callahan (hamstring) and Deiondre Hall (ankle) could all miss this contest, which would leave the Bears awfully thin in the secondary.
Green Bay also has major concerns in its defensive backfield since corners Damarious Randall and Quinten Rollins have been ruled out with groin injuries. The Packers have already been without Sam Shields all season, so their secondary will be relying on some inexperienced players here. Up front, the Pack will have Brian Bulaga (back) in the mix and also got good news regarding Randall Cobb’s back and should have his play-making ability out there.
WOULD P-A-N-I-C FOLLOW PACK LOSS?
Since Rodgers took over for Brett Favre back in 2008, Green Bay’s worst start through six games has been 3-3, so it’s not like an upset would leave them in unprecedented territory. In fact, the Pack went out and won a Super Bowl after finding themselves at .500 through six games back in 2010, but a loss would be the fifth in their last eight home games, where Rodgers once seemed invincible.
Rodgers is 12-4 in his career against the Bears and has thrown for 35 touchdowns against his team’s oldest rival, so no one is going to be buying the r-e-l-a-x routine if he can’t beat this depleted group. Questions about whether the magic with head coach Mike McCarthy has worn off have already started being whispered, so there’s certainly a sense of desperation settling in. Former Packer standout WR Greg Jennings has piled on, pointing out that Rodgers has been able to avoid serious criticism over the years but can no longer do so. With the Thursday night stage to himself, Rodgers’ play will be heavily scrutinized.
RECENT MEETINGS (Green Bay 4-1 SU, 4-1 ATS last five; OVER 4-1)
11/26/15 Chicago 17-13 at Green Bay (GB -7.5, 45)
9/13/15 Green Bay 31-23 at Chicago (GB -6, 48.5)
11/9/14 Green Bay 55-14 vs. San Diego (GB -9, 53)
9/28/14 Green Bay 38-17 at Chicago (GB -2, 51)
12/29/13 Green Bay 33-28 at Chicago (GB -3, 51)
PACKERS AS A HOME FAVORITE
The Packers were 9-0 including the postseason in 2014, going 6-2-1 against the spread, but have slumped at Lambeau over the past year-plus. In '15, they were 5-3 SU and just 4-4 ATS, but covered only one of their last five. Green Bay is 1-1-1 ATS this season in winning two of its first three, but is just 1-2 at Lambeau over the past three seasons against these Bears.
BEARS AS A ROAD UNDERDOG
Chicago hasn't covered a road game this season, arriving in Green Bay 0-3. The Bears actually went 4-1 SU and ATS as road dogs to close out 2015, which includes the 17-13 Thursday night upset last Thanksgiving.
NEXT WEEK'S NUMBERS POSTED
The Westgate opens its advance lines for the following week on Tuesdays and Week 8 has Packers as 2.5-point underdogs at Atlanta in a matchup to look forward to. The Bears are a 5.5-point home underdog as they square off against Minnesota in another national showcase. Jay Cutler could return Monday night.
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