How much do mid-level services make

[GoBrownies]

Alright last time i posted, I inquired about feist, root and them and we thought of some pretty big numbers. Anyone have any idea of what mid level services make...

some that come to mind
nsa
alatex
big al
psychic
marc lawrence
foote
ppp

some of these are on the higher end of mid level, while others are on the lower end.
any guesses?

[BettorsChat]

lawrence is high end
big al is high end
ppp is moderate to high end
aletax moderate
nsa medium

don't know the other 2

[zeib10]

The only way that these services make any $$$$ is if they fade the plays that they are giving out!!!

[doc mercer]

Why would anyone - WITH BRAINS - pay any money to a service?
The average service hits 43.3% ..... it is nothing but a scam
operation @ best ....

Good example: Feist himself does not even wager on sporting
events .... Tom Miranda with Sunshine Sports told me one can not make money running an honest service .... it is all about the hard sell and taking advantage of your clients

Why again would you pay any money to a service??? There are
plenty of great sites like this one that have excellent cappers that post plays and a lot of em posted with great writeups

Anyone paying money to a service has no sympathy from me
when they start crying .... again, the national avg for services is 43.2% ...... Feist has an umbrella of services working under his corporate setup and the ads in print are nothing but flat ass lies .... if you call an 800 free pick line it automatically records your name and expect the calls to come and your name passed among sister companies

Services DO NOT have scouts in the field .... Services DO N0T have inside info ... Services DO NOT have info on Hold games from Casinos .... Services con guys with their bullshit marketing crap - yeah, 3* and 5* and 10* crap .... like anyone with any intelligence is gonna put 3 times as much on a single play over another one??? Give me a fricking break!

STAY AWAY FROM SERVICES .... unlike ya like losing !

[BettorsChat]

Originally posted by zeib10
The only way that these services make any $$$$ is if they fade the plays that they are giving out!!!

They make $$ by selling their picks.

[savage1]

Doc Mercer-Great Post!
What you forgot is that there are some folks at Big Green Machine who give out 100 million star lock plays.
How much would a person be expected to play that?
Of course Feist doesn't bet.;why should he when he can con people into buyins picks from him and his partners, all of whom who are on different sides and combinations to make sure that someone wins for that day.
Last I heard Feist owned some porno sites on the internet;I wonder if he gets any freebies.

[GermanBettor]

In five years Jimmy Boy Feist will MAKE porns.
:D

[www.yourbestpic]

Very Surprised No Other Services are responding

Well the Top services, the ones we know who market like crazy in national papers ,,usa today , ny times , etc
I Can tell you they make in the millions and for the moderate services , they make 6 figures, which seems like alot but with advertising and TAXES, really is nothing to brag about...

[tatbar]

Anyone have Don't Call number?

Does anyone know how can I get all the scamdicappers from calling my phone? I heard there was a don't call list and you have to call a certain number. I am amaized at how many call I have been getting.
Thanx For any help

[Pwong8543]

Sports Services

Despite the warnings on this site, I decided to renew with a service a used a bit last year. I stopped using it after a pretty successful basketball season. I just didn't want to play baseball all summer.

The service is for the entire year. I won't tell you how much.

I just started Sunday 1/25/04 and got 3 college picks and 3 pros. So far, so good. The service is 2-1 in college and 2-1 in the pros. I will continue to monitor and let you guys know how it is working.

These guys are very nice and no pressure. What a relief.

Pwong

[BettorsChat]

Re: Anyone have Don't Call number?

Originally posted by tatbar
Does anyone know how can I get all the scamdicappers from calling my phone? I heard there was a don't call list and you have to call a certain number. I am amaized at how many call I have been getting.
Thanx For any help

https://www.donotcall.gov/

[doc mercer]

Man ...

They call em I like to screw with em right back ....

"How much do ya play per game??" is one of the
first 3 questions they ask --- so they can determine
how much to charge ya per game

Screw with em: "probably more than yourself ....
how much do you move?" watch em lie as they will
tell ya 3-5 dimes .... Tell em: "shit, your money mgmt
skills must totally suck because here ya are on the phone
today beggging me for cash ..."

Ask em where they are located .... if ya have call waiting,
screw with em so more .... put em on hold for about a minute
and come back and ask em: "just called info ... no listing for
your suppossed company .. what other name you guys supposedly go by?" ... that will really piss em off!

If they screw with ya ... return the favor ... make sure ya get the guys name and call their 800 # and pick any area code and leave about 15 messages with fake names for the guy that called ya

Have some fun with em ... make sure ya have the reps name that
called ya ... call em up and leave a message that you need to talk with him immediately as you have a tracking number from Fed EX that you need to give to him

Don't let em get to ya ... don't let em control the conversation ...
jack with em ... put em on hold ... come back on line with a nice conversation piece ... "man, my main contact @ Caesars just told me they have been blasted with a huge money move from Tim Bassert on an NBA game tonite .... guy has hit his last 9 big moves in the NBA this year ..."

Now for you that want to get rid of them .... real simple tip:
When they call ... put em on hold for 30 seconds and simply come
back on line and say the following and shut up! "Operator, this is the number I need for you to trace! " they will hang up, fellas

By the way ... Jim Feist got fleeced in his divorce!

[savage1]

Jim Feist got divorced?-I didn't think he would actually have time to find a woman(man?);I thought he and his partners were "married" to gambling and as you termed it "fleecing" the public with his scamdicapping/ marketing tactics.

[Pwong8543]

Service Update

Earlier, I posted that I renewed with a service that I used last year. I started on Sun 1/25. Before today, the service was 2-1 in college and 2-1 in the pros. It gave out 3 plays today and swept the board with 2W's in the pros (NJ and Dal -1-) and 1 W with Fla in college. To after three days College 3-1, Pros 4-1. Hope it can keep it up.

Pwong

[BigMike]

Post the plays then if they are winning for you!