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I agree that it would make it a pass for me too, rather than offering both sides to a game in different threads, I would have difficulty giving out a tip if it went against my "undefeated" system too.Originally posted by BettorsChat View PostI would assume different systems could put out different plays and with an opposite play of another one. I would think that would make it a pass, but that's just me. It's not my system so I don't know. What other actions are you referring too?
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Sorry, I am repeating myself, referring to what I mentioned earlier on. He stated this was almost infallible over 15 years, then in post #10 after Houston lost he stated:
The 2014 Undefeated NFL Season System
It seems that every time I introduce something new, it usually bombs the first day out.
So, people would take him at his word and continue wagering on the system thinking it was first day jitters or whatever, giving him the benefit of the doubt.
Then in post 1#18 he says:
As always, every time I introduce a new program it bombs in the beginning
So, he has gone from stating that it was undefeated:
This system is riding a 22 game "win" streak*. to saying it bombs the first day then after 5 straight losses that it bombs in the beginning. After also saying that their research shows there is almost no chance of losing a C bet over 15 years.
I am just noticing the contradictions in his statements and the fact that for a system that almost never lost over 15 years, it could not generate a single winner from the 5 tipped teams in this thread. I personally would be happy to see this thread continue, even just to see how it progresses, if this was just an anomaly and if he pulled a few winners out then it would be worth following.
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I would assume different systems could put out different plays and with an opposite play of another one. I would think that would make it a pass, but that's just me. It's not my system so I don't know. What other actions are you referring too?Originally posted by winslow View PostAnd that was the other thing which surprised me yesterday, that in his other thread, he bet against the Cowboys which he had for a system bet here. If you are telling people that this is an undefeated system, then bet against it in another thread on the same day, that certainly does send mixed messages about how much you trust your own supposedly undefeated system.
I am not as upset as some other people appear to be, I made the choice to bet my money, but just a bit perplexed at some of his actions.
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And that was the other thing which surprised me yesterday, that in his other thread, he bet against the Cowboys which he had for a system bet here. If you are telling people that this is an undefeated system, then bet against it in another thread on the same day, that certainly does send mixed messages about how much you trust your own supposedly undefeated system.
I am not as upset as some other people appear to be, I made the choice to bet my money, but just a bit perplexed at some of his actions.
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Don't know maybe he meant new to this site? Not sure. However, he has been posting and keeping an accurate record on his plays.
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I followed his picks, lost my money and said nothing to him or anyone else because I decided to follow him. Now, I know nothing about the "hate mail" he received, but when he advertised his "system" as undefeated, it does make people pay a little more attention. Then he followed up after the loss and something doesn't add up.Originally posted by Udog View PostWow! Hate mail? They've never picked a loser? It's not like you held a gun to anybody's head and forced em to play.
I'll take the sticky off but anytime you feel like resuming I'll stick it right back up there. Thanks for posting, Joe.
In his original post, he says:
The 2014 NFL season will always be special to me. Using a money management system and my picks I went "underfeated" for the entire season excluding the Super Bowl.
To reinforce how good the system is, he then adds this:
If you lose a Bet C, this is considered a loss for the
system. There are no losses counted for a loss on Bet A
or a Bet B. But over the last 15 years our research shows
there is almost no chance of that happening.
Today, after the unthinkable happened and the bet C lost, possibly taking a sizable chunk of people's bankroll with it, he posted this:
As always, every time I introduce a new program it bombs in the beginning.
So, was it a 15 year program, or a new program he just introduced?
Either way, he talked it up as if it was infallible which we all know can't be true so I wouldn't be surprised if some people took him at his word and were then surprised when it lost.
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Hate mail from who? No one on here has your e-mailOriginally posted by rhodyjoe View PostAs always, every time I introduce a new program it bombs in the beginning. Since I received so much hate mail in the last 24 hours i will not post this program again.
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Wow! Hate mail? They've never picked a loser? It's not like you held a gun to anybody's head and forced em to play.
I'll take the sticky off but anytime you feel like resuming I'll stick it right back up there. Thanks for posting, Joe.
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As always, every time I introduce a new program it bombs in the beginning. Since I received so much hate mail in the last 24 hours i will not post this program again.
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October 4th
The 2014 Undefeated NFL Season System
System Play Bet C
‘to win amount’ equal to the sum of any losses from Bet A and B plus
any profit you would have achieved from winning Bet A and B
4:25
274. Arizona Cardinals -7*
System Play Bet A
8:30
275. Dallas Cowboys +3*
Let's go over how to bet the Football games following the system.
I will list the point spread that I am getting which I will use for my win percentage. If you can get a better number, then take it.
If your sportsbook is showing a worse number then you may have to buy a half point or more to get the desired spread. If you choose not to and bet the game anyway just be aware that I will be judging my won-loss record at the spread I get.
If there are multiple picks on a given day - if you hit an early game then the next bet would be a Bet A, and so on. If you aren't sure how to use the system, please check out the first post above.
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October 1st
The game tonight does not fit the system.
We will have our very important C Bet on Sunday.
As of now, it looks like we will have at least 2 plays on Sunday.
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September 27th
Well it doesn't happen very often - maybe once or twice the entire season. But this is one Sunday where none of the games fit the Original system.
I'll be back Monday afternoon with an update for the Chiefs-Packers game.
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The last sentence from above should have said Some members choose to bet all of my releases while others choose to stick to the system exactly as it’s laid out above. If there are multiple games going on at once that fit the system, the * lets you know which is the strongest and therefore the system play.
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