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  • Marc Lawrence has a selection for tonight, can anyone post it?
    thanks.
    I'm a rookie here and I have to say this site and the people here are great.
    All the best to everyone in 2004!
    Ken Angland has a 10* tomorrow on Purdue. His 10*s 1-0 this bowl season, and he says 3-0 last bowl season.
    Big Al has 5* GOY on W Virg.
    Big Al 4*?
    ASA will have a 5*?
    Marc Lawrence 10* GOY?

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    • timster2

      Marc Lawrence is a fucking joke!!! He has a 100% win situation every other day. Who believes this??? It looks like his GOY is on Purdue (which looks good to me), but don't buy into all of his "never lost" crap!!!!!!!

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      • Seems like none of Lawrences' info on a game is based on how a team is actually playing. It's all past history which can go back many years, trends, and angles. He doesn't take schemes, matchups, or injuries into play. He has some interesting stats at times, but I would never base a pick solely on his criteria.

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        • Good point and very true.
          Who can forget his ludicrous regular season college GOY in 2002 on UCLA against USC using outdated trends and angles with no concern as to how teams were playing? For the record USC destroyed UCLA by about 50 points;this guy has never impressed ne over any sustained period of time. Just call him Mark "Mediocre" Lawrence.
          Last edited by savage1; 12-31-2003, 11:41 PM.

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          • im really starting to hate these clowns...a friend of mine pretty much laid it out to me today....PPP GOY...PrePicks GOY...any tout GOY...they ARENT BETTING THEIR OWN MONEY on their games...they dont lose if the game wins or loses...only we the PLAYERS do...dont get me wrong, some of these guys do bet...animal has said he's a player 1st...but not many... A LOT of these guys DONT BET...Phil Steele dont bet, dont be fooled by the hype...its killed me all season long...worst season for me in a LONG time (years)....NCoast killed me all year long but SOMEHOW they are 3-0 on their GOY's and 11-0 last 11...(thats fine if you bet their GOY's...they seem to always win and easily)...and that is great, they saved my ass tonight....but many are a complete joke....ASA 7* GOY Minny, that was a horrible pick today....havent these clowns watched ANY of the bowl games so far...lets see WSU DISMANTLED Texas last night....OREST CRUSHED NMEX...Cal knocked off what many thought a top10 program in VT...he goes with a middle of the pack big10 team vs a PAC10 team, that is 3-1 so far in bowls....the big10 teams have now gone 1-3 SU and ATS...

            OCD's total of the year today was OVER UTAH, id love to see the LOGIC behind that play...2 teams with great defense's and offenses that couldnt score on a high school cheerleader...HQ's ATS (not the crook ATS you guys post) had a 20* UNDER UTAH, thats a solid play...(they are a specialist, they play a couple games a week, not 6 games a night...their top play is a 10*, with a 20* as a GOY type play)....on paper without even looking into the game, id say it made sense....and as it turned out, it was the easiest winner of the day....no one can win with a service like PPP that puts out 6 football plays and 11 hoops plays in a day.....their clients are NOT making money...anyone that tells you they are, is lying to your face....you cant make money longterm betting 17 games in a day from a service like PPP....


            I heard UDOG's BGOY is on michigan tomorrow.....
            the original "HuskerFan"

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            • timster2....you have better chances going with Big A or Spreitzer. Those are two of my favorites. They are both good in the bowl series. Those are your best bests (in my opinion). Make your own choice--that's what determine's your fate!!!!

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              • Spreitzer Bowl GOY was Wisconsin.

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                • Spreitzer also had----Ark and BC!

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                  • no the best was Lawrence GOY on indy in the final regular season game....the NFL where "on any given sunday"....laying 9 on the road...any service (like Lexus sports 5* INDY also) that gaves out a team laying 9 on the road in the NFL should automatically be DISMISSED as a joke....NCoast play on STL laying 13 in DET, that was an ABSOLUTE JOKE...your telling me STL would be -20 in STL vs DET.....thats insane...all 3 of those clowns should be shot for releasing plays like that...i mean i can see Lexus sports who has like 10 clients but from a "respected" service like Ncoast and Lawrence, people who have been in the game for years/decades, they should know better than that by now...especially in this time where teams make the SB 1 year and are out of the playoffs the next (look at TB/OAK this season)...the parity is too great in this environment. Laying DD on the road in the NFL is suicide......one of HQ's guys Best Bet had 1 play....DET...and i dont play it like a moron....
                    the original "HuskerFan"

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                    • Good read, guys. By the way Happy New Year!
                      What I found disturbing about last week in the NFL was that at least several of those big plays(Indy for one) espected the teams not only to bounce back but win in a big way.
                      Isn't it a law of physics that when a body is in motion, it stays that way?;its been too many years to remember the law accurately, but I think you know what I mean.
                      Even dumber sometimes is when services for NFL give out big plays on the over when the total is 48 or even higher;to me I rarely play an over if it is over 41;too many things can happen.
                      I don't care who is playing;it is really hard to score 50 points.
                      Most of the overs I play are in 37-40 range especially when touts call for the unders in those contests.

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                      • what made those plays on sunday even more stupid, is the fact that the BIG CHALK won on saturday....NE/Seattle/Philly "all needed to win"...and all did win..........i said to my buddy...it aint gonna playout like this on sunday, where its that easy....where every team that needs to win, does and handily.......those clowns shoulda known that....those morons just looked at the games and said "STL needs to win for home field advantage"...INDY need to win to win the division and get a bye and they are off an embarrasing loss to denver"....that is stupid handicapping.....MUST WIN, so ill play it......and b/c its the final week, ill call it my GOY, even more stupid...at least the NCoast NFL goy made some sense....dallas off a rough stretch, in the running for the playoffs if they win... in a big game vs a division rival, starting a shit QB...the line made you almost think about taking washington...that was a great play.....INDY was ABSOLUTELY FU-CKING HORRIBLE.....OCD's GOY on cinny was a close 3rd...."another MUST WIN team"...lol....ya bungles laying
                        -9...whens the last time they did that.....1990....
                        the original "HuskerFan"

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                        • Intraware-excellent points.
                          Any service with any sense should have figured that in view of Saturday's must win teams winning, that Sunday it might not be as easy.
                          The best bet is that if in any sport you consistenty bet AGAINST the team which has to win you will do well especially in sports like football and basketball, where the teams many times is favored and to also cover the spread(as well as win).
                          I have no problem if say on a given day there are 4 or 5 teams which have to win, and you want to maybe bet one of them which has been playing well;to bet all of them especially with big ridiculous pointspreads involved and even worse to give those points on the road does not make sense.
                          I would never use anys service(even if games won), which gave out St. Louis, the Colts and Cinn.(all of them in other words)) as their picks for Sunday;Joe Moron could pick those;who needs a service?

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                          • Service Plays

                            Take all this info and bet the opposite. I guarantee you will do better. Didnt see too many Auburn and Oregon plays up here. Go figure. SPORTS SERVICES KNOW NOTHING. ITS A SCAM. PLEASE GET THAT. Its a shame to see you people begging for plays. Just do some reading and some analysis. You have just as good a shot, and it will make the game more enjoyable.

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                            • Sorry guys, my bad on Mark Lawrence... ASA 5* is Fla, M Lawrence bowl GOY on Purdue... I was already out last night when I realized that I mixed up my plays when I posted

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                              • Ben Burns- reg plays-over USC, Purdue, Iowa

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