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    Utah-USC Controversy

    September 12, 2011


    There was all kinds of commotion going on in Las Vegas sports books Saturday night regarding the final score posted USC-Utah game. USC returned a blocked kick for an apparent touchdown in the final seconds while leading 17-14, but was ruled not a score by the officials because USC was called for unsportsmanlike conduct for running on the field before the play was over. Final Score: USC 17, Utah 14.

    That was good enough for the sportsbooks. The wire services sent over the final score, it was confirmed and then posted just like any other game.

    But two hours later, the Pac-12 conference and USC reviewed the play and overturned the decision made on the field and allowed the score making the 'official' final score 23-14. For bettors who laid 8 ½-points with USC, this was a god-send, or so it appeared. This is when the uproar started with USC bettors.

    It is a rare occurrence to have this rule reffered to, but most sportsbooks have rules posted that state exactly what the policy is on overturned initial decisions. For most, that policy is to not recognize overturned decisions and only recognize what decision was made on the field of play. MGM Resorts, Wynn Las Vegas and Caesars properties opted to stay with their initial posted score of 17-14.

    After consulting with the Nevada Gaming Control Board, a few other sportsbooks did un-post the initial score and re-posted it 23-14. Coast Resorts, South Point, Station Casinos and the Las Vegas Hilton all went that route and bit the bullet of already paying out some on Utah and then paying all of the USC -8.5 and -9 sides.

    For those who cashed in on Utah during the two-hour window, they should consider themselves lucky. Those who had Utah that didn't cash on the game because of not getting to the book in time along with the others who bet USC and didn't get paid makes it the bad beat of the year. Either way, GCB is sure to get plenty of calls from upset customers.

    Station Casinos got such an outcry from their bettors on each side of the game that they eventually decided to pay both sides, not including those that laid the early number of -10 and -9 ½ with USC.

    The real question is this entire matter is why the Pac-12 commissioner was reviewing a play at 10:30 in the evening when that score in question had no bearing on the outcome of the game? USC won and Utah lost, that should have been all that mattered.

    When looking at what the universal point spread around the world was, the decision by the conference should raise some eye-brows with the NCAA. Would someone with the authority to change a score do so because of the spread? Doubtful.

    It may be a mere coincidence and someone just doing their due diligence to have the new celebration rules be interpreted properly, but nevertheless, it is kind of suspicious.

    If the score had been 34-14, with the spread not in question, would there have been as much dedication into the getting the score correct? Possibly.

    And does this now set a precedent for other conferences to follow suit with the power they have over their schools in overturning decisions.

    Let's hope it's just an isolated thing that never happens again because if something like this becomes commonplace, sportsbooks will have to protect themselves more which would mean longer delays in posting games.
    Remember the 3 G's Gambling, Golf, Girls not in any particular order.....

  • #2
    he had money on the game lol
    rjeremy for my accounts manager/i love how he keeps numbers

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    • #3
      Public favorites hurt Books

      September 12, 2011

      For the second straight week of college football action, the sports books got the type of favorite/underdog ratio results they love as the favorites went 23-21-1. However, just like last week, it was the public favorites grouped into parlays that kept the sports books from having a good day.

      Big favorites like Wisconsin (-20 ½), Alabama (-10), Oregon (-27) and most of all, Stanford (-21), led the way as the most popular public plays and they all came in easily. In each of those cases, the line didn’t move much as they respected the straight bets with disregard for the parlay action. “We always seem to get beat or break even in the first couple weeks of college football with all the large favorites against the sacrificial lambs,“ said Coast Resorts race and sports director Bob Scucci. “It hasn’t mattered how high we make some of these teams, because the public still bets them and they all seem to cover.“

      Conventional bookmaking wisdom tells the bookmaker to move numbers based solely on straight bets allowing parlay and teaser risk to fall as they may. They can only control what happens based on money that is bet on each individual team. When a result comes in, it’s posted and the parlay risk from that games moves on to the other games.

      If the sports book moves a game too high, then the Sharps will jump in and feed off the gift spreads like chum to sharks, something the books don‘t want to do considering their high win percentage.

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      No game was more apparent of the respect sports book have for the Sharps than the Stanford-Duke game where action on the game might have warranted moves up to -22 or -23, but each time they attempted to move up because of overwhelming public play, the sharks started circling and chomped on the number pushing it back to -20 ½ or -21. Despite the Sharps play, the game was overloaded with small public money.

      “I couldn’t believe the action on the Stanford game, it was the largest of the day,” said Scucci. “Every time I moved past 21, we’d get a bet immediately sending me back. Stanford was by far the most popular side of the day.“

      Most other books also reported this game as having the largest handle of the day with certainly the most parlays attached to it on the Stanford side. Chances are if you asked to see anyone’s parlay ticket on Saturday that Stanford would have appeared on it. That game alone was the gateway to success for many in the betting public. Although it appeared Duke would play a tough game after watching the first 28 minutes where Stanford only led 10-7, they ultimately closed it out and won 44-17.

      When a team wins big for the public, they don’t stop playing them meaning that this week’s game at Arizona where Stanford is favored by a mere 10-points should be equally as popular a play.

      A game where the sports books moved rapidly because of public play on both straight bets and parlays, where the Sharps wanted no part of the other side was Minnesota, which moved from -18 ½ to -22 ½ with no resistance by kickoff. New Mexico State, considered one of the worst teams in college football, won the game outright 28-21.

      In the beginning, it looked like Saturday was shaping up to be a big day for the sports books when the favorites went 2-7 in the early games with Ohio State (-17) not covering, but the tide quickly turned the public’s way in the afternoon. Had it not been for the Michigan's fantastic come back or UCLA not covering their large 21-point spread in the late games, it would have been a disastrous day.

      At the end of the day, it was either break even or a small loss for the sports books.

      The popular public choices this week will be Boise State (-18), Wisconsin (-16), Texas A&M (-36), TCU (-28), Alabama (-45) and of course Stanford. The books will be hoping to beat at least two of those games and most of all, hoping Arizona plays a great game at home.
      Remember the 3 G's Gambling, Golf, Girls not in any particular order.....

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      • #4
        The final of the stanford game was 44-14 not 44-17. Nonetheless interesting article.

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        • #5
          Seems easy on the USC game either it was a penalty at the end of the game or not. If there was then the scores should have remained 17-14. If there wasn't a penalty then the points should count. Looks like some books bit the bullet and paid twice.

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          • #6
            Nice to see some books pay out...........
            Remember the 3 G's Gambling, Golf, Girls not in any particular order.....

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            • #7
              Thanks bum good article

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