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  • #16
    Originally posted by frankb03 View Post
    Since 2007 blindly playing all dogs on the ML would have returned a nice profit.

    821-941 +3520
    Of the 821 home dog wins 303 or 36.9% are by 1 run

    It's of my opinion and the opinion of others never lay -1.5 with the home team. Although, I don't have ARLs playing Home dogs on the ARL and laying 1.5 runs is probably suicide. Too many games end with 1 run victories. Once again, the home team doesn't bat the bottom of the 9th if winning.
    Last edited by frankb03; 06-26-2009, 04:42 PM.

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    • #17
      Yeah, I hate the -1.5 on home teams as well. Just something I'm looking at. I'm not just using home dogs, I am using all dogs. But if the home dogs aren't winning, I may drop them and just use road dogs on the ARL. Gonna' see how it works out.

      At the start of the season I was using ARL parlays, putting big favorites together while getting 1.5, it was working out well, but profits started to tail off so I ditched it. Thought I'd see how this works, because of all the ways you can play a baseball game, this way offers you the biggest return without having to parlay. Even if these games hit between 30-40 %, it has a good chance to be profitable.

      Thanks a lot for the info Frank.
      "CFB YTD: 5-8-1 -16.2"

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      • #18
        ML Away Dogs 1659-2361 -10,825
        RL Away Dogs 2330-1645 -20,350

        The RL juice is too prohibitive.

        Of the 2361 away dog losses 714 or 30.2% are by 1 run.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by frankb03 View Post
          ML Away Dogs 1659-2361 -10,825
          RL Away Dogs 2330-1645 -20,350

          The RL juice is too prohibitive.

          Of the 2361 away dog losses 714 or 30.2% are by 1 run.
          This is what amazes me. RL away dogs, hitting at 59% and still 20,000 in the red. With something like what I'm doing, I don't even need to hit 40% to get a profit. Because every loser, loses 100, and every winner wins 200-300. It's just a matter of whether or not something like this can actually get to around 35%. Which I don't know.

          But the stats you have, just proves the point, that laying juice consistently, eventually breaks you.
          "CFB YTD: 5-8-1 -16.2"

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          • #20
            Yesterday: 4-11 (-2.03 units)

            Total: 8-35 (-18.47 units)
            "CFB YTD: 5-8-1 -16.2"

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            • #21
              Sat 6/27 901 San Francisco Giants
              B. Zito -1.5 +200

              04:05 PM 902 Milwaukee Brewers
              S.McClung +1.5 -220

              Sat 6/27 903 Philadelphia Phillies
              J. Happ +1.5 -225
              10:05 AM 904 Toronto Blue Jays
              B. Mills -1.5 +205


              Sat 6/27 905 Minnesota Twins
              K. Slowey +1.5 -240
              10:10 AM 906 St Louis Cardinals
              T. Wellemeyer -1.5 +220


              Sat 6/27 907 Chicago Cubs
              R. Dempster -1.5 +178

              01:05 PM 908 Chicago White Sox
              M. Buehrle +1.5 -191

              Sat 6/27 909 Boston Red Sox
              T. Wakefield -1.5 +220

              01:10 PM 910 Atlanta Braves
              J. Vazquez +1.5 -240

              Sat 6/27 911 LAA Angels
              J. Lackey +1.5 -240
              01:10 PM 912 Arizona D-Backs
              D. Davis -1.5 +220


              Sat 6/27 913 Washington Nationals
              S. Martis -1.5 +240

              04:05 PM 914 Baltimore Orioles
              J. Guthrie +1.5 -260

              Sat 6/27 915 Florida Marlins
              C. Volstad -1.5 +210

              04:05 PM 916 Tampa Bay Rays
              S. Kazmir +1.5 -230

              Sat 6/27 917 Cincinnati Reds
              H. Bailey -1.5 +183

              04:05 PM 918 Cleveland Indians
              T. Ohka +1.5 -201

              Sat 6/27 919 Detroit Tigers
              A. Figaro +1.5 -210
              04:05 PM 920 Houston Astros
              F. Paulino -1.5 +190


              Sat 6/27 921 Kansas City Royals
              B. Chen -1.5 +210

              04:05 PM 922 Pittsburgh Pirates
              P. Maholm +1.5 -230

              Sat 6/27 923 New York Yankees
              A. Burnett +1.5 -340
              04:10 PM 924 New York Mets
              T. Redding -1.5 +310


              Sat 6/27 925 San Diego Padres
              K. Correia -1.5 +200

              05:05 PM 926 Texas Rangers
              D. Holland +1.5 -220

              Sat 6/27 927 Colorado Rockies
              J. De La Rosa -1.5 +190

              06:05 PM 928 Oakland Athletics
              T. Cahill +1.5 -210

              Sat 6/27 929 Seattle Mariners
              F. Hernandez +1.5 -275
              07:10 PM 930 Los Angeles Dodgers
              E. Milton -1.5 +255
              "CFB YTD: 5-8-1 -16.2"

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              • #22
                Yesterday: 5-10 (-0.17 units)

                Total: 13-45 (-18.64 units)

                Yesterday, hit 33%, and broke even.
                "CFB YTD: 5-8-1 -16.2"

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                • #23
                  Sun 6/28 951 San Francisco Giants
                  R. Sadowski -1.5 +225

                  11:05 AM 952 Milwaukee Brewers
                  J. Suppan +1.5 -245

                  Sun 6/28 953 Cincinnati Reds
                  M. Owings -1.5 +226

                  10:05 AM 954 Cleveland Indians
                  D. Huff +1.5 -246

                  Sun 6/28 955 Philadelphia Phillies
                  J. Moyer -1.5 +204

                  10:05 AM 956 Toronto Blue Jays
                  B. Tallet +1.5 -224

                  Sun 6/28 957 New York Yankees
                  C. Wang +1.5 -275
                  05:05 PM 958 New York Mets
                  L. Hernandez -1.5 +255


                  Sun 6/28 959 Boston Red Sox
                  B. Penny -1.5 +156

                  10:35 AM 960 Atlanta Braves
                  T. Hanson +1.5 -166

                  Sun 6/28 961 Kansas City Royals
                  Z. Greinke +1.5 -335
                  10:35 AM 962 Pittsburgh Pirates
                  C. Morton -1.5 +305

                  Sun 6/28 963 Florida Marlins
                  A. Miller -1.5 +245

                  10:35 AM 964 Tampa Bay Rays
                  D. Price +1.5 -265

                  Sun 6/28 965 Washington Nationals
                  J. Lannan -1.5 +183

                  10:35 AM 966 Baltimore Orioles
                  D. Hernandez +1.5 -201

                  Sun 6/28 967 Detroit Tigers
                  E. Jackson +1.5 -280
                  11:05 AM 968 Houston Astros
                  R. Ortiz -1.5 +260


                  Sun 6/28 969 Chicago Cubs
                  C. Zambrano -1.5 +160

                  11:05 AM 970 Chicago White Sox
                  J. Danks +1.5 -170

                  Sun 6/28 971 Minnesota Twins
                  F. Liriano -1.5 +192

                  11:15 AM 972 St Louis Cardinals
                  J. Pineiro +1.5 -212

                  Sun 6/28 973 Colorado Rockies
                  A. Cook -1.5 +175

                  01:05 PM 974 Oakland Athletics
                  V. Mazzaro +1.5 -185

                  Sun 6/28 975 Seattle Mariners
                  G. Olson -1.5 +270

                  01:10 PM 976 Los Angeles Dodgers
                  H. Kuroda +1.5 -300

                  Sun 6/28 977 LAA Angels
                  M. Palmer -1.5 +200

                  01:10 PM 978 Arizona D-Backs
                  M. Scherzer +1.5 -220

                  Sun 6/28 979 San Diego Padres
                  C. Gaudin -1.5 +195

                  05:05 PM 980 Texas Rangers
                  T HUNTER +1.5 -215
                  "CFB YTD: 5-8-1 -16.2"

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                  • #24
                    Yesterday: 8-7 (+9.66 units)

                    Total: 21-52 (-8.98 units)
                    "CFB YTD: 5-8-1 -16.2"

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                    • #25
                      Mon 6/29 901 Chicago Cubs
                      R. Harden +1.5 -231
                      04:05 PM 902 Pittsburgh Pirates
                      Z. Duke -1.5 +211


                      Mon 6/29 903 Washington Nationals
                      S. Olsen -1.5 +265

                      04:10 PM 904 Florida Marlins
                      R. Nolasco +1.5 -285

                      Mon 6/29 905 New York Mets
                      F. Nieve -1.5 +190

                      04:05 PM 906 Milwaukee Brewers
                      B. Looper +1.5 -210

                      Mon 6/29 907 San Francisco Giants
                      T. Lincecum +1.5 -266
                      05:15 PM 908 St Louis Cardinals
                      B. Thompson -1.5 +246


                      Mon 6/29 909 Houston Astros
                      R. Oswalt +1.5 -320
                      07:05 PM 910 San Diego Padres
                      J. Geer -1.5 +290

                      Mon 6/29 911 Colorado Rockies
                      U. Jimenez -1.5 +171

                      07:10 PM 912 Los Angeles Dodgers
                      R. Wolf +1.5 -181

                      Mon 6/29 913 Chicago White Sox
                      G. Floyd +1.5 -201
                      04:05 PM 914 Cleveland Indians
                      C. Pavano -1.5 +183


                      Mon 6/29 915 Boston Red Sox
                      J. Lester +1.5 -320
                      04:05 PM 916 Baltimore Orioles
                      J. Berken -1.5 +290

                      Mon 6/29 917 Tampa Bay Rays
                      J. Niemann -1.5 +220

                      04:05 PM 918 Toronto Blue Jays
                      R. Halladay +1.5 -240

                      Mon 6/29 919 LAA Angels
                      S. O' Sullivan -1.5 +183

                      05:05 PM 920 Texas Rangers
                      V. Padilla +1.5 -201

                      Mon 6/29 921 Minnesota Twins
                      N. Blackburn +1.5 -250
                      05:10 PM 922 Kansas City Royals
                      L. Hochevar -1.5 +230


                      Mon 6/29 923 Detroit Tigers
                      R. Porcello +1.5 -215
                      07:05 PM 924 Oakland Athletics
                      B. Anderson -1.5 +195
                      "CFB YTD: 5-8-1 -16.2"

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                      • #26
                        Yesterday: 4-8 (+ .28 units)

                        Total: 25-60 (-8.70 units)

                        Hit 33% with profit again. Interesting.
                        "CFB YTD: 5-8-1 -16.2"

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                        • #27
                          Tue 6/30 951 Chicago Cubs
                          T. Lilly +1.5 -260
                          04:05 PM 952 Pittsburgh Pirates
                          R. Ohlendorf -1.5 +240


                          Tue 6/30 953 Arizona D-Backs
                          D. Haren +1.5 -280
                          04:10 PM 954 Cincinnati Reds
                          B. Arroyo -1.5 +260


                          Tue 6/30 955 Washington Nationals
                          C. Stammen -1.5 +195

                          04:10 PM 956 Florida Marlins
                          S. West +1.5 -215

                          Tue 6/30 957 Philadelphia Phillies
                          J. Blanton -1.5 +183

                          04:10 PM 958 Atlanta Braves
                          D. Lowe +1.5 -201

                          Tue 6/30 959 New York Mets
                          JO. Santana +1.5 -275
                          05:05 PM 960 Milwaukee Brewers
                          M. Burns -1.5 +255


                          Tue 6/30 961 San Francisco Giants
                          R. Johnson -1.5 +290

                          05:15 PM 962 St Louis Cardinals
                          C. Carpenter +1.5 -320

                          Tue 6/30 963 Houston Astros
                          M. Hampton -1.5 +169

                          07:05 PM 964 San Diego Padres
                          J. Banks +1.5 -179

                          Tue 6/30 965 Colorado Rockies
                          J. Marquis -1.5 +260

                          07:10 PM 966 Los Angeles Dodgers
                          C. Billingsley +1.5 -280

                          Tue 6/30 967 Seattle Mariners
                          B Morrow -1.5 +330

                          04:05 PM 968 New York Yankees
                          J. Chamberlain +1.5 -360

                          Tue 6/30 969 Chicago White Sox
                          C. Richard -1.5 +270

                          04:05 PM 970 Cleveland Indians
                          C. Lee +1.5 -300

                          Tue 6/30 971 Tampa Bay Rays
                          M. Garza +1.5 -250
                          04:05 PM 972 Toronto Blue Jays
                          S. Richmond -1.5 +230


                          Tue 6/30 973 Boston Red Sox
                          J. Smoltz +1.5 -235
                          04:05 PM 974 Baltimore Orioles
                          R. Hill -1.5 +215


                          Tue 6/30 975 LAA Angels
                          J. Saunders -1.5 +164

                          05:05 PM 976 Texas Rangers
                          S. Feldman +1.5 -174

                          Tue 6/30 977 Minnesota Twins
                          S. Baker +1.5 -280
                          05:10 PM 978 Kansas City Royals
                          B. Bannister -1.5 +260


                          Tue 6/30 979 Detroit Tigers
                          A. Galarraga +1.5 -210
                          07:05 PM 980 Oakland Athletics
                          G. Gonzalez -1.5 +190
                          "CFB YTD: 5-8-1 -16.2"

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                          • #28
                            I have to ask--how are you picking these---1.5 or +1.5?? Maybe you already stated that..Just looking through this I don't understand but I am high and drunk~~ just kidding neither at all just trying to see what you are doing.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by bryce View Post
                              I have to ask--how are you picking these---1.5 or +1.5?? Maybe you already stated that..Just looking through this I don't understand but I am high and drunk~~ just kidding neither at all just trying to see what you are doing.
                              They are Alternate Run Lines.

                              So the team (underdog) that is usually getting (+1.5) is now giving the (-1.5) (now the favorite). An underdog LAYING 1.5 gets back very good odds. +200 or so on average.

                              Example for tonight: Washington is an underdog (+130) and on the RL they are +1.5 (-155)

                              -But on the Alternate. Pittsburgh is -1.5 (+240). Harder to win, but there is value if it does come through.

                              I am just testing the value of these ARL's as a whole.
                              "CFB YTD: 5-8-1 -16.2"

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                              • #30
                                Yesterday: 5-9 (+4.15 units)

                                Total: 30-69 (-4.55 units)
                                "CFB YTD: 5-8-1 -16.2"

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