No relief in sight!!!!!!

[Bubbles]

no lead is safe. starters pitch 6 maybe 7 innings top. give to the bullpen to fuck up and boy it seems to happen more than not. as a bettor, leads are never safe and if your down. your not out. over/unders are always won or lost between 8-9 innings. but i guess thats baseball!!!!!!! have a good weekend all!!!!!!

[BettorsChat]

Relief pitchers have been getting me of late as well. Some of these guys shouldn't even be in the majors, but they are because of the lack of talent.

[Bubbles]

you hit it right on the head!!!!! so right. it becomes frustrating because in the past alot of teams had good 8th and 9th inning guys. i don't see alot this year even on the yankees!!!! hope and pray i guess.

[Bubbles]

Brad lidge???????? lights out last year. 6th blown save already this year. never ends!!!

[BigMike]

He's getting very predictable and fucking annoying. Needs a 3 run lead to get the save.

[Chado1]

Brad lidge???????? lights out last year. 6th blown save already this year. never ends!!!

Are you serious? Fucking 6? Now that makes a ton of sense...NOT! WTF?

[bryce]

I have been betting bases for 12 years now...I had a few good years but for the most part I wonder why I do it...ACTION I guess....this year is freaky as ever...bullpens SUCK---I mean really pathetic. I have not seen it this bad

[mavskidd02]

Wow just checked the box score. Screw you B Lidge!!!!!!

[PhilJr]

You need some relief tonight blubbles. Try this

[Chado1]

Wow just checked the box score. Screw you B Lidge!!!!!!

6th blown save this year already for him and its only the beginning of June?

[frankb03]

One can't really blame the Phillies for sticking with Lidge. Afterall, he was perfect last season. What I wonder is how long managers are going to continue to manage based on pitch count. How many times will it take for managers, GMs and owners to realize it's not how the game was meant to be played? Good starters must be very frustrated. They pitch their asses off. Then hit some magic number and they get yanked irregardless of how effective they're still pitching. The 7th, 8th and 9th innings are almost unwatchable. Even in games they don't blow the save it seems they're still loading the bases before escaping.

[Chado1]

One can't really blame the Phillies for sticking with Lidge. Afterall, he was perfect last season. What I wonder is how long managers are going to continue to manage based on pitch count. How many times will it take for managers, GMs and owners to realize it's not how the game was meant to be played? Good starters must be very frustrated. They pitch their asses off. Then hit some magic number and they get yanked irregardless of how effective they're still pitching. The 7th, 8th and 9th innings are almost unwatchable. Even in games they don't blow the save it seems they're still loading the bases before escaping.

So true....

[Bubbles]

as bettors, we think we have the game in the bag thru 7 innings. starters come out cause pitch count at 100 WTF!!!!! arms are so babied these days. nolan ryan said it best. its time to retrain these young arms. bullpen comes in and game is changed. drives me nuts and im sure many others. hitters are getting better and pitchers are not i guess.

[wayne1218]

Just bet on the Red Sox. Best bullpen era in baseball and the only team with a bullpen era under 3 at 2.77

[BettorsChat]

http://www.bettorschat.com/forums/al...ing-count.html

hokie99 posted this regarding Nolan Ryan & today's pitchers

Bill Conlin: Organizing a revolt against the pitching count | Philadelphia Daily News | 05/29/2009