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  • Kaptains Winning, not WHINING" plays

    WHINING.....

    To complain or protest in a childish fashion.

    ....believe you me, we have become infested with the whining BUG here as of late....

    Here's my "Non scripted, non fixed" MLB picks for Thursday...

    we're gonna sail to Runline Isle on all of em.....

    953 Arizona + 1 1/2 RL -160.....................1*
    963 Cards + 1 1/2 RL -165............................................... ..5*
    966 Florida + 1 1/2 RL -145............................................... .5*

    976 Oakland + 1 1/2 RL -160.....................1*

    lets see what we do today, hope we win, so we don't have to start looking for excuses, fixes, officiating, weather, bad calls, etc..........in essence, more whining....

    Lock and load
    Last edited by Kaptain; 06-12-2008, 12:27 PM.


    Don't make me go Cajun on your Ass!

  • #2
    Good luck Kapt, Cards and Marlins were on my radar

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    • #3
      good luck on the card Kapt

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      • #4
        I didn't whine Kapt ... all I said is that I lost 2 days in a row ... hahahahahahaha



        Good Luck YOF

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        • #5
          I know that is a direct shot at me -- nice !! -- lol

          Lets all close out eyes and ears and pretend everything is OK

          Lets believe everything we see on the news and read in the newspapers -- lets all be blind sheep and noty formulate our own opinions


          Im still waiting for a response to this:


          Originally Posted by Kaptain
          I guess that erroneous statement explains why the USA dominates in InterNational BasketBall....

          Check the stats......who is the power of BasketBall.....last time I looked, it was the USA.....not, the rest of the world...

          I'm starting to worry about you here lately.....





          Originally Posted by GOLDENGREEK
          ARE YOU KIDDING ME KAPT -- DONT TURN THIS INTO ANTI - US SENTIMENT BULLSHIT

          IM AN AMERICAN THRU AND THRU BUT I WILL BELIEVE WHAT I SEE AND NOT WHAT I AM TOLD



          FACT --

          THE US FINISHED 3RD -- GOT THE BRONZE IN THE LAST OLYMPIC GAMES



          IN THE LAST 3 FIBA WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS THE US HAS :

          FINISHED 3RD IN 2006 ( FUKING GREECE BEAT THEM )

          SIXTH IN 2002

          3RD IN 1998

          FIRST IN 1994

          THIRD IN 1990



          THEY HAVE CONTINUALY BEEN BEATED BY TEAMS LIKE ARGENTINA AND SPAIN



          THEY EVEN FINISHED 4TH PLAYING AT HOME IN THE FIBA AMERICAS CHAMPIONSHIP / TOURNAMENT OF THE AMERICAS
          (World Champ. / Olympic Qualifier)



          MAKE NO MISTAKE THE REST OF THE WORLD HAS CAUGHT UP TO THE US IN BASKETBALL IF NOT PASSED THEM IN MANY ASPECTS OF THE GAME

          IT IS NOT ANTI - PATRIOTIC TO TELL THE TRUTH !!



          where do you see this domination ??

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            Greek

            Greek----you have an uncanny ability to extract just that which appears to make you right, when in actuality, it's the other way............read the following.....comprehend......retain.....then do your twisting....




            United States men's national basketball team
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            Medals Gold: 1936, 1948, 1952, 1956, 1960, 1964, 1968, 1976, 1984, 1992, 1996, 2000
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            Bronze: 1988, 2004
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            Appearances 15
            Medals Gold: 1954, 1986, 1994
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            The United States men's national basketball team is the representative for the United States of America in international men's basketball. Considered the best national basketball team in the world, team USA is historically the most successful team in international competition, medaling in all fifteen Olympic tournaments it has entered, coming away with twelve golds.

            Traditionally composed of amateur players, a 1989 rule change by FIBA allowed USA Basketball to field teams with professional players. The "Dream Team" won the gold medal at the 1992 Summer Olympics in Barcelona, Spain. That team is often regarded as the greatest collection of talent on one team in basketball history.[1][2][3]

            With the introduction of professionals, Team USA was able to spark a second run of dominance after capturing only a bronze medal in 1988. A team of professional players competed in the 1994 Basketball World Championships, finishing first. In 1996 and 2000, Team USA once again captured gold medals.

            However, Team USA's renewed dominance has lessened in recent years. Facing increased competition from international teams, helped in no small way by the expansion of basketball sparked by the 1992 Dream Team,[4] the USA failed to win a medal at the 2002 World Championship, finishing sixth. The 2004 Summer Olympic team lost three games on its way to a bronze medal, a record that represented more losses in a single year than the country's Olympic teams had suffered in all previous Olympiads combined.

            Determined to put an end to these recent failures, USA Basketball has changed its philosophy and has looked to field complete teams instead of piecing together rosters of NBA All-Stars at the last minute. Team USA won their first seven games at the 2006 World Championships in Japan, struggling against Greece in the semi-finals. After coming away with a bronze, Team USA is still striving to recapture international gold.

            Contents [hide]
            1 1936-1968 Early Dominance
            2 1972 Controversy at Munich Olympics
            3 1976-1980 Bounce Back and Boycott
            4 1984 Olympics (Los Angeles)
            5 1988 Olympics (Seoul)
            6 1992 The Dream Team
            6.1 Dream Team roster
            6.2 The 1992 Dream Team's Olympic Summary
            7 1994 World Championship Team
            8 1996 U.S. Olympic Basketball Team
            9 1998 World Championship Team
            10 2000 U.S. Olympic Basketball Team
            11 2002 USA Men's World Championship Team
            12 2004 U.S. Men's Basketball Team
            13 2006-2008 U.S. Men's Basketball Team
            14 Past players
            15 Team USA Coaches
            15.1 Olympics
            15.2 FIBA World Championships
            16 Rosters
            17 References



            [edit] 1936-1968 Early Dominance
            As the nation that oversaw most of its early development, the United States possessed a clear advantage in the early decades of international play. The US men were dominant from the first Olympic tournament held in Berlin in 1936, going 5-0 to win the gold, and joined by continental neighbors Canada and Mexico on the medal platform. Through the next six tournaments, the United States went undefeated, collecting gold while not losing a single contest in the games held in London, Helsinki, Melbourne, Rome, Tokyo, and Mexico City. Participation in these tournaments were limited to amateurs, but the US teams during this period featured players who would later go on to become superstars in professional basketball, including all-time greats Bill Russell, Oscar Robertson, Jerry West, and Jerry Lucas, the latter three competed on the 1960 Rome team often credited as the best U.S. roster until the formation of the 1992 Dream Team.[5]


            [edit] 1972 Controversy at Munich Olympics
            Main article: Basketball at the 1972 Summer Olympics
            The 1972 Olympic men's basketball gold medal game, marking the first ever loss for Team USA in Olympic play, is inarguably the most controversial in Olympic history. The United States rode their seven consecutive gold medals and 63-0 Olympic record to Munich for the 1972 Summer Olympics. The team won its first eight games in convincing fashion, setting up a final against the Soviet Union.

            With three seconds left in the gold medal game, American forward Doug Collins sank two free throws to put the Americans up 50-49. However, the horn sounded before Collins' second free throw. Immediately following Collins' free throws, the Soviets inbounded the ball and failed to score. But one official had whistled play to stop with one second remaining after hearing the earlier horn and seeing a disturbance near the scorers table. The Soviets argued that they had requested a timeout before Collins' foul shots. The referees ordered the clock reset to three seconds and the game's final seconds replayed. However, the clock was in the process of being reset when the referees put the ball in play. A length of the court Soviet pass missed its mark, the horn sounded and the U.S. again began celebrating.

            However, R. William Jones, Secretary General of FIBA, ordered the clock to be reset again at 0:03 and the game replayed from that point. This time, the Soviet's Aleksander Belov and the USA's Kevin Joyce and Jim Forbes went up for the pass, and Belov caught the long pass from Ivan Edeshko at the foul line, sending the two Americans sprawling. Belov then drove to the basket for the layup and the winning points as the buzzer sounded. The U.S. team quickly filed a protest after the game, which was heard by a five-man Jury of Appeal. In a 3-2 decision (divided along ideological lines between Communist and non-Communist countries), the Jury voted down the protest and awarded the gold medals to the Soviet team.[6] The U.S. players voted unanimously to refuse their silver medals; several team members have directed in their wills that their heirs are never to accept the medals, even posthumously.


            [edit] 1976-1980 Bounce Back and Boycott
            After the controversial loss in Munich, 1976 saw Dean Smith coach Team USA to a 7-0 record and its eighth Olympic gold medal in Montreal. The success at this tournament pushed Team USA's all-time Olympic record to an impressive 78-1.

            The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan prompted several countries, including the United States, to boycott the 1980 Olympics in Moscow.

            The 1980 U.S. team, which featured a number of future NBA players, was the youngest American national team ever assembled. Unable to compete in the Olympics due to the boycott, it instead participated in the "Gold Medal Series," a series of games against NBA all-star teams in various U.S. cities, recording a 5-1 record.[7]


            [edit] 1984 Olympics (Los Angeles)
            Main article: Basketball at the 1984 Summer Olympics
            In response to the American-led boycott of the 1980 games, most Communist countries (including the Soviet Union) boycotted the 1984 Games, held in Los Angeles.

            Michael Jordan, Patrick Ewing, and Chris Mullin, future members of the '92 Dream Team, made their Olympic debuts. Jordan led the team with 17.1 points per game, and Bob Knight coached the team to an 8-0 record and another Olympic gold.


            [edit] 1988 Olympics (Seoul)
            Main article: Basketball at the 1988 Summer Olympics
            A roster that included a host of future NBA all-stars including David Robinson and Mitch Richmond came up short, finishing third and winning the bronze medal. Team USA lost its only game to the Soviets 82-76 in the first Olympic meeting between these countries since the controversial 1972 gold medal game. The Americans went on to beat Australia 78-49 in the bronze medal game. "Thunder" Dan Majerle led Team USA in scoring, averaging 14.1 points per game.


            [edit] 1992 The Dream Team
            In 1989, FIBA, international basketball's governing body, allowed professional NBA players to participate in the Olympics for the first time. Prior to the 1992 Olympics, only European and South American professionals were allowed to play in the Olympics.

            The team assembled by USA Basketball for the tournament in Barcelona in 1992, was one of the most illustrious collections of talent assembled in the history of international sport. Of the 12 players on the team, 10 would be named in 1996 among the 50 Greatest Players in NBA History, the NBA's official list of the 50 greatest players of the league's first 50 years. Because of this star line-up, the team's games usually featured opposing teams asking for pregame photos with their U.S. opponents — and idols.


            [edit] Dream Team roster
            Charles Barkley of the Phoenix Suns via trade from the Philadelphia 76ers
            Larry Bird of the Boston Celtics
            Clyde Drexler of the Portland Trail Blazers
            Patrick Ewing of the New York Knicks
            Earvin "Magic" Johnson of the Los Angeles Lakers
            Michael Jordan of the Chicago Bulls
            Christian Laettner of Duke University
            Karl Malone of the Utah Jazz
            Chris Mullin of the Golden State Warriors
            Scottie Pippen of the Chicago Bulls
            David Robinson of the San Antonio Spurs
            John Stockton of the Utah Jazz
            Coach: Chuck Daly of the Detroit Pistons[8]
            The only players not named on the NBA's 50 Greatest list were Laettner and Mullin.


            [edit] The 1992 Dream Team's Olympic Summary
            Team USA cruised through its qualifying round with a 6-0 record. The team then took on Angola in the opening game of the Olympic competition. Barkley had 24 points in a team USA 116-48 romp. Barkley also received attention for elbowing an Angolan player, whom Barkley outweighed by almost 50 pounds. When asked about the incident after the game, Barkley responded, "Somebody hits me, I'm gonna hit him back, even if it does look like he hasn't eaten in a while!"

            The Dream Team next took on a talented Croatia team and beat them soundly by 33 points, led by Jordan's 21. The United States team then defeated Germany (with later NBA All Star Detlef Schrempf and Uwe Blab) behind Larry Bird's 19 points and Karl Malone's 18. In the next game, seven USA players scored in double digits and Barkley set the new single game Team USA scoring record with 30 points in a 127-83 rout of Brazil. Team USA then closed out pool play with a resounding 122-81 drubbing of Spain.

            In the quarter finals, Mullin scored a team high 21 points as the Dream Team scored a 115-77 victory over Puerto Rico. Team USA rolled on in the semis with a 51 point win over Lithuania (with then-current NBA player Šarūnas Marčiulionis and later NBA player Arvydas Sabonis). Nine US players scored in double figures. Jordan led the way in the gold medal game against Croatia (with five current or future NBA players in Dražen Petrović, Toni Kukoč, Dino Radja, Stojko Vranković, and Žan Tabak), scoring 22 points. Patrick Ewing had 15. Barkley had 17. The final game was the closest of the entire Olympics, with the Dream Team winning by 32 points in a 117-85 blowout to take the gold. The high point for Croatia was a brief 25-23 lead.

            Barkley led the star-studded squad in scoring (with an average of 18.0 points per game and a field goal percentage of 71.1%)[9] followed by Mullin, who was also the second-leading scorer for the 1984 Olympic team. The Dream Team won the Olympic basketball tournament with an average margin of victory of 43.8 points and without coach Chuck Daly ever using a timeout.


            [edit] 1994 World Championship Team
            The United States fielded another team composed of professional players in the 1994 World Championship, held in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. This was an entirely new roster, as USA Basketball elected to showcase stars who were not present at the 1992 Olympics. Composed primarily of younger NBA players, the team lacked the widespread appeal of its predecessor but nevertheless continued its dominance. The 1994 roster included Isiah Thomas recently retired from the NBA, Shaquille O'Neal, Reggie Miller, Dominique Wilkins, Joe Dumars, Alonzo Mourning, Mark Price, Shawn Kemp, Dan Majerle, Derrick Coleman, Steve Smith, Larry Johnson and Kevin Johnson. Coached by Don Nelson of the Golden State Warriors, this team easily captured the gold medal in tournament play.


            [edit] 1996 U.S. Olympic Basketball Team
            Main article: Basketball at the 1996 Summer Olympics
            The third team composed of NBA players participated in the 1996 Summer Olympics held in Atlanta, Georgia, USA. The star quality of team was impressive as it featured five members of the original Dream Team (Barkley, Malone, Pippen, Robinson, and Stockton), plus two other members of the NBA 50 Greatest Players list in Hakeem Olajuwon and O'Neal. The rest of the squad consisted of Reggie Miller, Mitch Richmond, Anfernee Hardaway, Grant Hill and Glenn Robinson. Lenny Wilkens coached the team

            The Americans won another gold medal with an average margin of victory of 32.3 points per game. They captured the gold medal after defeating Yugoslavia 95–69.


            [edit] 1998 World Championship Team
            The American team that competed in the 1998 World Championship in Athens, Greece was different from the previous teams, as none of its players were current members of NBA teams. Therefore, the team was nicknamed the "dirty dozen" because of the way they worked hard on the court and maximized their ability for the good of the team. Because of a labor dispute that led to a lockout, no active or well-established NBA players were permitted to compete in the tournament. Brad Miller is the lone example of a member of the team who would go on to have a solid NBA career. Another team member, Trajan Langdon, had a short and uneventful NBA career, but went on to an outstanding career in Europe. This unheralded team, composed largely of players from American colleges and the minor-league Continental Basketball Association or European pro leagues, captured a bronze medal—considered a solid achievement given the team's complete lack of top-notch talent.


            [edit] 2000 U.S. Olympic Basketball Team
            Main article: Basketball at the 2000 Summer Olympics
            During the late 1990s, international basketball began to gather attention as more and more foreign players became stars in the NBA. Therefore, the 2000 U.S. team had the enormous task of proving that American basketball was the best in the world. The new team that was assembled again featured NBA players, but this time few of them were considered to be true superstars, as several elite players elected not to participate.

            The 2000 U.S. team participated in the 2000 Olympics in Sydney, Australia and was coached by Rudy Tomjanovich. It won its first two games by lopsided margins, but faced more difficult competition thereafter. A preliminary game against Lithuania, won 85-76, marked the first time a team of professional players failed to win by double digits. Two games later, in a 106-94 victory over France, Vince Carter of Team USA executed what some call "the greatest dunk of all-time", literally jumping over 7'2"/2.18 m France center Frédéric Weis on his way to the basket.

            A major shock came on the semifinals game when the United States managed to defeat Lithuania by only two points, 85–83, after Lithuanian star (and future NBA player, first with the Indiana Pacers and later with the Golden State Warriors) Šarūnas Jasikevičius missed a desperation three-pointer at the buzzer that would have won the game.

            The closeness of the semifinal game was so shocking that NBC took the extraordinary step of showing the gold medal game live rather than on tape delay. (The game started around 2 p.m. Sydney time on Sunday October 1st, which is late Saturday evening in the USA. NBC originally planned to show the game almost 24 hours later during its Sunday prime time broadcast.) The USA won the gold medal against France in a very close game, 85-75. Though the US went undefeated on its way to the gold medal, for the first time the team began to lose its aura of invincibility.


            [edit] 2002 USA Men's World Championship Team
            The 2002 team competed in the 2002 FIBA World Championship in Indianapolis, Indiana, USA. Coached by George Karl, the team finished a surprising sixth in the competition. During the tournament, Argentina and then Yugoslavia became the first teams ever to defeat a USA Team composed of NBA players. To a greater degree than in 2000, a number of top NBA players declined to participate, forcing USA Basketball to resort to picking mostly second-tier players. The group has been considered as one of sport's greatest flops, as they failed to produce as previous teams had.


            [edit] 2004 U.S. Men's Basketball Team
            Main article: Basketball at the 2004 Summer Olympics
            The humiliating outcome of 2002 prompted a number of NBA superstars to agree to join the team for the FIBA Americas Championship 2003, which the squad was required to participate in to qualify for the 2004 Summer Olympics. The team easily cruised to a first-place finish, earning it a spot in Athens, Greece the following summer.

            However, the dominant team that competed in 2003 could not be kept together. For different reasons, 10 of its 12 players elected, did not want to participate in Athens, causing USA Basketball to scramble to fill their places. The revamped 2004 team generally consisted of young NBA stars early in their careers, such as Carmelo Anthony and LeBron James, but included recent Most Valuable Players Tim Duncan and Allen Iverson.

            After struggles in several exhibition matches, the vulnerability of the 2004 team was confirmed when Puerto Rico defeated them 92–73 in the very first game of the Olympic tournament in Athens. It was only the third Olympic basketball defeat ever for Team USA and the first for an American team composed of professionals. The 19 point defeat was the most lopsided loss for Team USA in the history of international competition, suggesting that the level of international basketball had caught up with that of the United States.

            After winning close games against Greece and Australia, Team USA fell to Lithuania, dropping to 2–2 in the Olympic tournament. Even after an 89–53 win over Angola, the Americans entered the knockout rounds in fourth place due to goal average, the lowest seed of their group. The Americans faced undefeated Spain in their quarterfinal game and finally put up a dominant performance, beating the Spaniards 102–94.

            However, the semi-final match saw Team USA defeated by Argentina, 89–81, ending the United States' hold on the gold medal. Team USA did rebound to capture the bronze medal by defeating Lithuania. Still, it marked only the third time that an American team failed to win gold, and the first time for an American team composed of professionals. Before 2004, American teams had only lost two games in all previous Olympic tournaments, whereas in this one the American team lost three.


            [edit] 2006-2008 U.S. Men's Basketball Team
            Following the disappointments in 2002 and 2004, USA Basketball looked to move in a different direction. It appointed Jerry Colangelo to be solely responsible for selecting the team. Colangelo made it clear that he would ask players for a three-year commitment—the 2006 Worlds and the 2008 Summer Olympics. The head coach chosen for the team was Duke University coach Mike Krzyzewski, with assistants Jim Boeheim of Syracuse University, Mike D'Antoni of the New York Knicks, and Nate McMillan of the Portland Trail Blazers. While some prominent players, such as Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett, stated that they do not plan to play for the team, superstars Kobe Bryant, Dwyane Wade,and LeBron James publicly announced their commitment for the 2006 Worlds and 2008 Olympics. Allen Iverson, despite being the captain for the 2004 Olympic team, was not invited to train with the team. Dwyane Wade, LeBron James and Carmelo Anthony were named co-captains of the 2006 USA World Championship Team.

            They easily went through the group stage and went to the semi-finals, winning their games by an average of 25 points. However, against defending European Championship winner Greece, the US suffered a 101-95 defeat, putting in a dismal defensive effort (the Greeks shot .625 for the game)[10] and resulting in the third consecutive failure of a US team to reach a final in international basketball. The team rallied for a win over defending Olympic Champion Argentina (who had previously earned a win over the U.S. in both the 2002 Worlds and the 2004 Olympics) to take home the bronze medal.

            On May 23, 2007 it was reported that seven USA players would not be able to compete in the FIBA Americas Championship during the summer of 2007 because of injuries. Those seven players are Gilbert Arenas, Joe Johnson, Brad Miller, Lamar Odom, Paul Pierce and Dwyane Wade.

            In response, USA Basketball announced eight new players would be added to the USA Men's National Basketball Team. Those eight players are Carlos Boozer, Tyson Chandler, Kevin Durant, Jason Kidd, Mike Miller, Greg Oden, Tayshaun Prince and Deron Williams.[11]


            [edit] Past players
            Charles Barkley
            Don Barksdale
            Walt Bellamy
            Larry Bird
            Bill Walton
            Larry Brown
            Vince Carter
            Adrian Dantley
            Clyde Drexler
            Tim Duncan
            Patrick Ewing
            Kevin Garnett
            Penny Hardaway
            Spencer Haywood
            Grant Hill
            Allen Iverson
            Magic Johnson
            K.C. Jones
            Michael Jordan
            Jerry Lucas
            Karl Malone
            Stephon Marbury
            Tracy McGrady
            Reggie Miller
            Chris Mullin
            Alonzo Mourning
            Shaquille O'Neal
            Hakeem Olajuwon
            Gary Payton
            Scottie Pippen
            Oscar Robertson
            David Robinson
            Bill Russell
            John Stockton
            Isiah Thomas
            Bill Walton
            Jerry West



            [edit] Team USA Coaches

            [edit] Olympics
            Coach Event Won Lost Medal
            James Needle 1936 Berlin 5 0 Gold
            Omar Browning 1948 London 8 0 Gold
            Warren Womble 1952 Helsinki 8 0 Gold
            Gerald Tucker 1956 Melbourne 8 0 Gold
            Pete Newell 1960 Rome 8 0 Gold
            Henry Iba 1964 Tokyo, 1968 Mexico City, 1972 Munich 26 1 2 Gold, 1 Silver*
            Dean Smith 1976 Montreal 7 0 Gold
            Bob Knight 1984 Los Angeles 8 0 Gold
            John Thompson 1988 Seoul 7 1 Bronze
            Chuck Daly 1992 Barcelona 8 0 Gold
            Lenny Wilkens 1996 Atlanta 8 0 Gold
            Rudy Tomjanovich 2000 Sydney 8 0 Gold
            Larry Brown 2004 Athens 5 3 Bronze
            Mike Krzyzewski 2008 Beijing

            1972 silver is disputed, see above

            [edit] FIBA World Championships
            Coach Event Won Lost Medal
            Gordon Carpenter 1950 Argentina 5 1 Gold
            Warren Womble 1954 Brazil 9 0 Gold
            Charles Bennett 1959 Chile 7 2 Silver
            Garland Pinholster 1963 Brazil 6 3
            Hal Fischer 1967 Uruguay, 1970 Yugoslavia 13 5
            Gene Bartow 1974 Puerto Rico 6 4
            Bill Oates 1978 Philippines 6 4
            Bob Weltlich 1982 Colombia 7 2 Silver
            Lute Olson 1986 Spain 9 1 Gold
            Mike Krzyzewski 1990 Argentina 6 2 Bronze
            Don Nelson 1994 Canada 8 0 Gold
            Rudy Tomjanovich 1998 Greece 7 2 Bronze
            George Karl 2002 United States 6 3
            Mike Krzyzewski 2006 Japan 8 1 Bronze


            [edit] Rosters
            1936 Olympic Games: finished 1st among 21 teams

            Frank Lubin, Sam Balter, Ralph Bishop, Joe Fortenberry, John Gibbons, Francis Johnson, Carl Knowles, Art Mollner, Donald Piper, Jack Ragland, Willard Schmidt, Carl Shy, Duane Swanson, William Wheatley (Coach: Jim Needles)

            1948 Olympic Games: finished 1st among 23 teams

            Bob Kurland, Gordon Carpenter, Clifford Barker, Don Barksdale, Ralph Beard, Lewis Beck, Vincent Boryla, Alex Groza, Wallace Jones, Ray Lumpp, Robert Pitts, Jesse Renick, Jack Robinson, Ken Rollins (Coach: Omar Browning)

            1950 World Championship: finished 2nd among 10 teams

            John Stanich, Bob Fisher, Bryce Heffley, Tom Jaquet, Dan Kahler, John Langdon, Les Metzger, John Leonard Parks, Jimmy Reese, Don Slocum, Blake Williams (Coach: Gordon Carpenter)

            1952 Olympic Games: finished 1st among 23 teams

            Bob Kurland, Howard Williams, Dan Pippin, William Hougland, Charles Hoag, Clyde Lovellette, Melvin Kelley, Robert Kenney, Marcus Freiberger, Ronald Bontemps, Victor Wayne Glasgow, Frank McCabe, John Keller, Bill Lienhard (Coach: Warren Womble)

            1954 World Championship: finished 1st among 12 teams

            Joe Stratton, Bertram Born, Richard Gott, Forrest Hamilton, Bill Johnson, Allen Kelley, Kirby Minter, Don Penwell, Dick Retherford, Kendall Sheets, Ed Solomon, Jerry Arkarath (Coach: Warren Womble)

            1956 Olympic Games: finished 1st among 15 teams

            Bill Russell, William Hougland, Kenneth "K.C." Jones, Gilbert Ford, Burdette Haldorson, Carl Cain, Dick Boushka, James Walsh, Charles Darling, William Evans, Robert Jeangerard, Ron Tomsic (Coach: Gerald Tucker)

            1959 World Championship: finished 2nd among 13 teams

            Jerry Vayda, Dick Baker, Jim Coshow, Hank D'Antonio, Bob Hodges, Eddie White, Robert Jeangerard, Henry McDonald, John F. Miller, Ronald Olsen, Virgil Riley, Dick Welsh (Coach: Charles "Buzz" Bennett)

            1960 Olympic Games: finished 1st among 16 teams

            Oscar Robertson, Jerry West, Walter Bellamy, Jerry Lucas, Jay Arnette, Robert Boozer, Terry Dischinger, Adrian Smith, Burdette Haldorson, Lester Lane, Darrall Imhoff, Allen Kelley (Coach: Pete Newell)

            1963 World Championship: finished 4th among 13 teams

            Pete McCaffrey, Mel Peterson, Willis Reed, Mel Gibson, Bunk Adams, Jerry Shipp, Lucious Jackson, Charlie Bowerman, Walt Torrence, Vinnie Ernst, Ed Smallwood, Don Kojis (Coach: Garland Pinholster)

            1964 Olympic Games: finished 1st among 16 teams

            Bill Bradley, Larry Brown, Jim Barnes, Joe Caldwell, Pete McCaffrey, Melvin Counts, Richard Davies, Walt Hazzard, Lucious Jackson, Jerry Shipp, Jeff Mullins, George Wilson (Coach: Henry “Hank” Iba)

            1967 World Championship: finished 4th among 13 teams

            Stan McKenzie, Vern Benson, Darius Cunningham, John Clawson, Jay Miller, Michael Silliman, Charles Paulk, Mike Barrett, Darel Carrier, Albert Tucker, Kendall Rhine, Jim Williams (Coach: Hal Fischer)

            1968 Olympic Games: finished 1st among 16 teams

            Spencer Haywood, Mike Barrett, John Clawson, Don Dee, Calvin Fowler, Joseph "Jo Jo" White, Bill Hosket, Jim King, Glynn Saulters, Charles Scott, Mike Silliman, Ken Spain (Coach: Henry “Hank” Iba)

            1970 World Championship: finished 5th among 13 teams

            Tal Brody, Bill Walton, Kenny Washington, Brad Luchini, Michael Silliman, Bob Wolfe, Jim Williams, Art Wilmore, Darnell Hillman, Stan Isaac, Bruce McDonald, Garfield Smith (Coach: Hal Fischer)

            1972 Olympic Games: finished 2nd among 16 teams

            Doug Collins, Jim Brewer, Ed Ratleff, Dwight Jones, Thomas Henderson, Tommy Burleson, Kevin Joyce, Bobby Jones, Kenny Davis, Mike Bantom, James Forbes, Tom McMillen (Coach: Henry “Hank” Iba)

            1974 World Championship: finished 3rd among 14 teams

            John Lucas, Tom Boswell, Joe Meriweather, Rick Schmidt, Rich Kelley, Quinn Buckner, Myron Wilkins, Steve Grote, Luther Burden, Frank Oleynick, Eugene Short, Gus Gerard (Coach: Gene Bartow)

            1976 Olympic Games: finished 1st among 12 teams

            Adrian Dantley, Phil Ford, Steve Sheppard, Phil Hubbard, Mitch Kupchak, Michael "Tate" Armstrong, Quinn Buckner, Kenny Carr, Walter Davis, Ernie Grunfeld, Tom LaGarde, Scott May (Coach: Dean Smith)

            1978 World Championship: finished 5th among 14 teams

            Irvin Kiffin, Wayne Smith, Tim Hall, Derrick Jackson, Eugene Parker, Tom Schneeberger, Ernest Wansley, Marvin Delph, Ralph Drollinger, Brad Hoffman, Mike Jackson (Coach: Bill Oates)

            1980 Olympic Games: did not participate

            1982 World Championship: finished 2nd among 13 teams

            Doc Rivers, Antoine Carr, John Pinone, Mitchell Wiggins, Jeff Turner, Joe Kleine, Earl Jones, Ted Kitchel, Fred Reynolds, Jon Sundvold, Jim Thomas, Mark West (Coach: Bob Weltlich)

            1984 Olympic Games: finished 1st among 12 teams

            Michael Jordan, Patrick Ewing, Chris Mullin, Sam Perkins, Steve Alford, Vern Fleming, Joe Kleine, Jon Koncak, Alvin Robertson, Wayman Tisdale, Jeff Turner, Leon Wood (Coach: Bobby Knight)

            1986 World Championship: finished 1st among 24 teams

            David Robinson, Rony Seikaly, Sean Elliott, Steve Kerr, Tyrone Bogues, Brian Shaw, Charles D.Smith, Kenny Smith, Derrick McKey, Tommy Amaker, Tom Hammonds, Armon Gilliam (Coach: Lute Olson)

            1988 Olympic Games: finished 3rd among 12 teams

            David Robinson, Mitch Richmond, Stacey Augmon, Danny Manning, Dan Majerle, Herman “J.R.” Reid, Willie Anderson, Charles E.Smith, Hersey Hawkins, Charles D.Smith, Vernell Coles, Jeff Grayer (Coach: John Thompson)

            1990 World Championship: finished 3rd among 16 teams

            Alonzo Mourning, Chris Gatling, Christian Laettner, Henry Williams, Kenny Anderson, Todd Day, Lee Mayberry, Billy Owens, Mark Randall, Chris Smith, Doug Smith, Bryant Stith (Coach: Mike Krzyzewski)

            1992 Olympic Games: finished 1st among 12 teams

            Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Charles Barkley, Chris Mullin, Patrick Ewing, Karl Malone, John Stockton, David Robinson, Scottie Pippen, Clyde Drexler, Christian Laettner (Coach: Chuck Daly)

            1994 World Championship: finished 1st among 16 teams

            Shaquille O'Neal, Dominique Wilkins, Alonzo Mourning, Shawn Kemp, Reggie Miller, Derrick Coleman, Joe Dumars, Kevin Johnson, Mark Price, Steve Smith, Dan Majerle, Larry Johnson (Coach: Don Nelson)

            1996 Olympic Games: finished 1st among 12 teams

            Shaquille O'Neal, Hakeem Olajuwon, Charles Barkley, Scottie Pippen, Karl Malone, John Stockton, David Robinson, Gary Payton, Anfernee Hardaway, Grant Hill, Reggie Miller, Mitch Richmond (Coach: Lenny Wilkens)

            1998 World Championship: finished 3rd among 16 teams

            Trajan Langdon, Michael Hawkins, Wendell Alexis, Brad Miller, Bill Edwards, Kiwane Garris, Ashraf Amaya, Jason Sasser, Jimmy Oliver, Jimmy King, Gerard King, David Wood (Coach: Rudy Tomjanovich)

            2000 Olympic Games: finished 1st among 12 teams

            Kevin Garnett, Jason Kidd, Ray Allen, Vince Carter, Gary Payton, Tim Hardaway, Alonzo Mourning, Steve Smith, Shareef Abdur-Rahim, Vin Baker, Allan Houston, Antonio McDyess (Coach: Rudy Tomjanovich)

            2002 World Championship: finished 6th among 16 teams

            Reggie Miller, Paul Pierce, Ben Wallace, Jermaine O'Neal, Shawn Marion, Baron Davis, Antonio Davis, Michael Finley, Andre Miller, Jay Williams, Elton Brand, Raef LaFrentz (Coach: George Karl)

            2004 Olympic Games: finished 3rd among 12 teams

            Tim Duncan, Allen Iverson, LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Amare Stoudemire, Shawn Marion, Carlos Boozer, Carmelo Anthony, Stephon Marbury, Richard Jefferson, Lamar Odom, Emeka Okafor (Coach: Larry Brown)

            2006 World Championship: finished 3rd among 24 teams

            LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Carmelo Anthony, Antawn Jamison, Brad Miller, Dwight Howard, Chris Bosh, Elton Brand, Shane Battier, Kirk Hinrich, Chris Paul, Joe Johnson. (Coach: Mike Krzyzewski)


            [edit] References
            ^ The Oakland Press: Sports Columnists: The Dream Team is over and what's left is a nightmare
            ^ PopMatters Sports Feature | The Globalized Association
            ^ Dreaming about the Dream Team • vabulous69's Blog - FOX Sports Blogs
            ^ Al Jazeera English - Sport - Spain's Basketball Kings
            ^ [1]
            ^ 10 Olympic Controversies - Sports - Book of Lists - Canongate Home
            ^ [2]
            ^ [3]
            ^ Daly, Chuck (1992), America's Dream Team. Turner Publishing Inc., p. 219. ISBN 1-878685-27-9
            ^ USA Basketball Box Score:
            ^ The Official Site of the USA Basketball Men's Senior National Team
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            Don't make me go Cajun on your Ass!

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            • #7
              WHAT DO I CARE WHAT HAPPENED IN THE 1950 'S ?

              IM TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW - -- LOOK AT MY POST AGAIN -- THE US HAS FAILED MISRERABLY IN THE LAST 10 YEARS OR SO

              HOW CAN U CALL THEM DOMINANT WHEN YOU SEE THIS:


              IM NOT TWISTING ANYTHING-- THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED AND THESE WERE THE RESULTS:

              FACT --

              THE US FINISHED 3RD -- GOT THE BRONZE IN THE LAST OLYMPIC GAMES




              IN THE LAST 5 FIBA WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS THE US HAS :

              FINISHED 3RD IN 2006 ( FUKING GREECE BEAT THEM )

              SIXTH IN 2002

              3RD IN 1998

              FIRST IN 1994

              THIRD IN 1990


              THEY HAVE CONTINUALY BEEN BEATED BY TEAMS LIKE ARGENTINA AND SPAIN



              THEY EVEN FINISHED 4TH PLAYING AT HOME IN THE FIBA AMERICAS CHAMPIONSHIP / TOURNAMENT OF THE AMERICAS
              (World Champ. / Olympic Qualifier)

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              • #8
                [QUOTE=Kaptain]


                FROM YOUR OWN ARTICLE THAT U POSTED -- READ THE PARTS IN BOLD



                However, Team USA's renewed dominance has lessened in recent years. Facing increased competition from international teams, helped in no small way by the expansion of basketball sparked by the 1992 Dream Team,[4] the USA failed to win a medal at the 2002 World Championship, finishing sixth. The 2004 Summer Olympic team lost three games on its way to a bronze medal, a record that represented more losses in a single year than the country's Olympic teams had suffered in all previous Olympiads combined.

                Determined to put an end to these recent failures, USA Basketball has changed its philosophy and has looked to field complete teams instead of piecing together rosters of NBA All-Stars at the last minute. Team USA won their first seven games at the 2006 World Championships in Japan, struggling against Greece in the semi-finals. After coming away with a bronze, Team USA is still striving to recapture international gold.




                [edit] 2002 USA Men's World Championship Team
                The 2002 team competed in the 2002 FIBA World Championship in Indianapolis, Indiana, USA. Coached by George Karl, the team finished a surprising sixth in the competition. During the tournament, Argentina and then Yugoslavia became the first teams ever to defeat a USA Team composed of NBA players.





                [edit] 2004 U.S. Men's Basketball Team
                Main article: Basketball at the 2004 Summer Olympics
                The humiliating outcome of 2002 prompted a number of NBA superstars to agree to join the team for the FIBA Americas Championship 2003, which the squad was required to participate in to qualify for the 2004 Summer Olympics. The team easily cruised to a first-place finish, earning it a spot in Athens, Greece the following summer.


                After struggles in several exhibition matches, the vulnerability of the 2004 team was confirmed when Puerto Rico defeated them 92–73 in the very first game of the Olympic tournament in Athens. It was only the third Olympic basketball defeat ever for Team USA and the first for an American team composed of professionals. The 19 point defeat was the most lopsided loss for Team USA in the history of international competition, suggesting that the level of international basketball had caught up with that of the United States.


                After winning close games against Greece and Australia, Team USA fell to Lithuania, dropping to 2–2 in the Olympic tournament. Even after an 89–53 win over Angola, the Americans entered the knockout rounds in fourth place due to goal average, the lowest seed of their group. The Americans faced undefeated Spain in their quarterfinal game and finally put up a dominant performance, beating the Spaniards 102–94.

                However, the semi-final match saw Team USA defeated by Argentina, 89–81, ending the United States' hold on the gold medal. Team USA did rebound to capture the bronze medal by defeating Lithuania. Still, it marked only the third time that an American team failed to win gold, and the first time for an American team composed of professionals. Before 2004, American teams had only lost two games in all previous Olympic tournaments, whereas in this one the American team lost three.




                [edit] 2006-2008 U.S. .

                They easily went through the group stage and went to the semi-finals, winning their games by an average of 25 points. However, against defending European Championship winner Greece, the US suffered a 101-95 defeat, putting in a dismal defensive effort (the Greeks shot .625 for the game)[10] and resulting in the third consecutive failure of a US team to reach a final in international basketball. The team rallied for a win over defending Olympic Champion Argentina (who had previously earned a win over the U.S. in both the 2002 Worlds and the 2004 Olympics) to take home the bronze medal.

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                • #9
                  Im Not Going To Continue Cluttering Your Thread -- For That I Apologize -- If You Want To Continue This Discussion Feel Free To Do It In My Thread

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                  • #10
                    Records are part of History......USA dominated drasticly early on, and yes, other countries have gotten better, but the fact still is, USA dominates in basketball.....

                    you can't forget what they've done in the past, record wise, just as you can't forget Babe Ruth cause B Bonds broke his record.....


                    FACT---the USA's record is dominant until someone else breaks it.....Just like Ruth, and Aaron.....

                    Twist that one GREEK....you're making youraelf look foolish.....

                    the only thing you've said correctly, is, "the US has slipped in DOMINANCE", othe countries are ccatching up to em, but, until they do, and it's a long ways to go, the fact was, and is....

                    The USA has dominated in International BasketBall....

                    start twisting......or do you have some inside info, the those wins were rigged/fixed/scripted also.....

                    You keep saying, you don't believe what you read in Newspapers )(those that do are supposed to be naive), yet we're supposed to believe what we read in a FORUM.....just another mans opinion, which one do you think has more credence to it....

                    NOT your Forum opinion, IMO....

                    you are a contrary/argumentative person, and you seem to enjoy it, but hell, each to his own.....It's what life is all about....

                    .....you don't care what happened in the past.....you say.....

                    Past is HISTORY----history is records, data, memories, and things we learn from........doesn't surprise me you'd make that statement.....


                    Don't make me go Cajun on your Ass!

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                    • #11
                      greek said....

                      FROM YOUR OWN ARTICLE THAT U POSTED -- READ THE PARTS IN BOLD


                      Kaptains reply....
                      you just did exactly what I said you do all the time....you extracted the attributes regarding losing games, in lieu of the ones regarding 81-1 records, total dominance, etc, to attempt to make your self look right....

                      Look atr the whole picture....winning/losing, get a figure, and then tell me they didn't dominate....I said they were slipping of late, or rather, other countries getting better.....

                      But you can't talk about a team for 60 years, and then extract just the items you want....it's all documented....use the whole past history....oh, that's right, the past means nothing to you....

                      By the way, where do you cut off the past for data, 1 year, 2, 3, 10, 15, 30, or whatever year it makes you appear right....


                      Don't make me go Cajun on your Ass!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Kaptain
                        Records are part of History......USA dominated drasticly early on, and yes, other countries have gotten better, but the fact still is, USA dominates in basketball.....

                        you can't forget what they've done in the past, record wise, just as you can't forget Babe Ruth cause B Bonds broke his record.....


                        FACT---the USA's record is dominant until someone else breaks it.....Just like Ruth, and Aaron.....

                        Twist that one GREEK....you're making youraelf look foolish.....

                        the only thing you've said correctly, is, "the US has slipped in DOMINANCE", othe countries are ccatching up to em, but, until they do, and it's a long ways to go, the fact was, and is....

                        The USA has dominated in International BasketBall....

                        start twisting......or do you have some inside info, the those wins were rigged/fixed/scripted also.....

                        You keep saying, you don't believe what you read in Newspapers )(those that do are supposed to be naive), yet we're supposed to believe what we read in a FORUM.....just another mans opinion, which one do you think has more credence to it....

                        NOT your Forum opinion, IMO....

                        you are a contrary/argumentative person, and you seem to enjoy it, but hell, each to his own.....It's what life is all about....

                        .....you don't care what happened in the past.....you say.....

                        Past is HISTORY----history is records, data, memories, and things we learn from........doesn't surprise me you'd make that statement.....

                        YOUR THE ONLY ONE TWISTING ANYTHING KAPT

                        YOU SAID THE US DOMINATED INTERNATIONAL PLAY

                        HARDLY -- THEY HAVE BEEN PISS POOR AS OF LATE - I GAVE YOU FACTS THAT SHOWS THIS

                        YOU POSTED FACTS OF YOUR OWN THAT NEGATE YOUR OWN ARGUEMENT

                        THE REST OF THE WORLD HAS CAUGHT UP - PERIOD -- THE US HASNT DOMINATED INTERNATIONAL PLAY SINCE 1994 -- THAT WAS 18 YEARS AGO


                        ALSO -- IF YOU BELIEVE WHAT YOU WROTE ABOUT THE TYPE OF PERSON THAT I AM THEN DONT BE A PHONEY AND WISH ME LUCK DAILY IN MY THREADS- NO NEED FOR FALSE FRIENDS

                        TAKE CARE KAPT

                        USA !!!!! USA !!!!! USA !!!!!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by GOLDENGREEK
                          YOUR THE ONLY ONE TWISTING ANYTHING KAPT

                          YOU SAID THE US DOMINATED INTERNATIONAL PLAY

                          HARDLY -- THEY HAVE BEEN PISS POOR AS OF LATE - I GAVE YOU FACTS THAT SHOWS THIS

                          YOU POSTED FACTS OF YOUR OWN THAT NEGATE YOUR OWN ARGUEMENT

                          THE REST OF THE WORLD HAS CAUGHT UP - PERIOD -- THE US HASNT DOMINATED INTERNATIONAL PLAY SINCE 1994 -- THAT WAS 18 YEARS AGO

                          ALSO -- IF YOU BELIEVE WHAT YOU WROTE ABOUT THE TYPE OF PERSON THAT I AM THEN DONT BE A PHONEY AND WISH ME LUCK DAILY IN MY THREADS- NO NEED FOR FALSE FRIENDS

                          TAKE CARE KAPT

                          USA !!!!! USA !!!!! USA !!!!!
                          Is it 2012 already? Damn time flies.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by longnex
                            Is it 2012 already? Damn time flies.

                            I can not believe you are reading every line ....

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Spark
                              I can not believe you are reading every line ....
                              Im not, I just happened to see that.

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