PLEASE!!!!! Have Your Kids Grow Up To Be

[Spark]

Relief Pitchers ....


MLB needs a ton of them ....

It is atrocious that these guys are getting paid this kind of money and can not pitch an innning without giving up runs ...

[Chado1]

I agree...

[kbsooner21]

Unfuckingbelievable!

[Dkngstn9]

Because of this

Relief Pitchers ....


MLB needs a ton of them ....

It is atrocious that these guys are getting paid this kind of money and can not pitch an innning without giving up runs ...

I have lost so many games because of these relief pitchers i am trying this,
51417873-1 6/7/2008 5:32 PM Total 105.00 100.00 Baseball - 903 Arizona Diamondbacks/Pittsburgh Pirates over 3½ -105 for MLB 2nd half lines
51417873-2 6/7/2008 5:32 PM Total 120.00 100.00 Baseball - 905 St Louis Cardinals/Houston Astros over 3½ -120 for MLB 2nd half lines
51417873-3 6/7/2008 5:32 PM Total 100.00 100.00 Baseball - 907 San Francisco Giants/Washington Nationals over 3½ +100 for MLB 2nd half lines
51417873-4 6/7/2008 5:32 PM Total 115.00 100.00 Baseball - 909 Philadelphia Phillies/Atlanta Braves over 3½ -115 for MLB 2nd half lines
51417873-5 6/7/2008 5:32 PM Total 115.00 100.00 Baseball - 911 Cincinnati Reds/Florida Marlins over 3½ -115 for MLB 2nd half lines
51417873-6 6/7/2008 5:32 PM Total 100.00 100.00 Baseball - 913 Milwaukee Brewers/Colorado Rockies over 4 +100 for MLB 2nd half lines
51417873-7 6/7/2008 5:32 PM Total 100.00 100.00 Baseball - 925 Minnesota Twins/Chicago White Sox over 3½ +100 for MLB 2nd half lines
51417873-8 6/7/2008 5:32 PM Total 125.00 100.00 Baseball - 927 Tampa Bay Devil Rays/Texas Rangers over 3½ -125 for MLB 2nd half lines

now with my luck watch it change.

[Kaptain]

PAPI---I put a lots of emphasis on the BP stats for ecah team, as they pitch 1/3 of the game.....you're right, how many pitchers have had great games going into the 7th, or through the 7th, only to be pulled, and watch the RP's blow it.......

I don't bet on teams that have terrible BP's, one of the main reasons they have lost as many games as they have....

Look at your front runners, compare BP ERA, wha laa.....they coincide......

Strong BP teams are
Phillie 2.7.............B Avg Team 264
Toronto 2.9..........................262
C W Sox 2.9.........................249
Dodgers 3.0..........................265
A'a 3.2.................................255
Cubs 3.2..............................285
Braves 3.3............................276
O's 3.3.................................250

Must be careful with those that have weak batting avgs vs the good BP ERA's.........

Weak BP teams
Pitt 6.0............BA 259.........good over....depends on SP ERA
Fla 5.4.............BA 258.........good over
Texas 5.4..............284........good over
Det 5.2.................260
Cards 5.0..............286........good over

these figures are a couple days old, but close enough to get the Idea......

I know what you mean Verne..........

[griffey_mojo]

Mama's don't let your babies to grow up to be cowboys...

[frankb03]

Relief Pitchers ....


MLB needs a ton of them ....

It is atrocious that these guys are getting paid this kind of money and can not pitch an innning without giving up runs

Joe, baseball has destroyed the art of complete games. They baby starters. They put them on pitch counts. In the 60s and 70s it was rare for a starter not to pitch into 7th or 8th inning. Now it's rare for a starter to pitch into the 7th or 8th. It's frustrating watching a starter throw a master piece only to have the "setup man" blow the game.

[Spark]

Joe, baseball has destroyed the art of complete games. They baby starters. They put them on pitch counts. In the 60s and 70s it was rare for a starter not to pitch into 7th or 8th inning. Now it's rare for a starter to pitch into the 7th or 8th. It's frustrating watching a starter throw a master piece only to have the "setup man" blow the game.

Exactly Frank ....


I would love to know how many games are completed by the starting pitcher ...

[The Lovedoc]

Did i miss an imploding opportunity?

[griffey_mojo]

Did i miss an imploding opportunity?

Nope...it's just Spark creating ANOTHER complaining thread like he always does.

[meaiken]

Expecially if your kid is left handed. You don't even have to be a geat pitcher if you are left handed. But I guess that would defeat the purpose of what you want.

[Dkngstn9]

Maybe we have something here

I have lost so many games because of these relief pitchers i am trying this,
51417873-1 6/7/2008 5:32 PM Total 105.00 100.00 Baseball - 903 Arizona Diamondbacks/Pittsburgh Pirates over 3½ -105 for MLB 2nd half lines
51417873-2 6/7/2008 5:32 PM Total 120.00 100.00 Baseball - 905 St Louis Cardinals/Houston Astros over 3½ -120 for MLB 2nd half lines
51417873-3 6/7/2008 5:32 PM Total 100.00 100.00 Baseball - 907 San Francisco Giants/Washington Nationals over 3½ +100 for MLB 2nd half lines
51417873-4 6/7/2008 5:32 PM Total 115.00 100.00 Baseball - 909 Philadelphia Phillies/Atlanta Braves over 3½ -115 for MLB 2nd half lines
51417873-5 6/7/2008 5:32 PM Total 115.00 100.00 Baseball - 911 Cincinnati Reds/Florida Marlins over 3½ -115 for MLB 2nd half lines
51417873-6 6/7/2008 5:32 PM Total 100.00 100.00 Baseball - 913 Milwaukee Brewers/Colorado Rockies over 4 +100 for MLB 2nd half lines
51417873-7 6/7/2008 5:32 PM Total 100.00 100.00 Baseball - 925 Minnesota Twins/Chicago White Sox over 3½ +100 for MLB 2nd half lines
51417873-8 6/7/2008 5:32 PM Total 125.00 100.00 Baseball - 927 Tampa Bay Devil Rays/Texas Rangers over 3½ -125 for MLB 2nd half lines

now with my luck watch it change.

6-2 even i'm suprised. I'll have to keep an eye on this.

[BigMike]

Whoever started this thread...is the best

[kbsooner21]

Whoever started this thread...is the best

I sure hope RJ doesn't get jealous when he sees this

[tech fan]

check this out for stat guru's league leaders for complete games in year and league

american *************** national
1968 denny mclain 28************** juan marichal 30
1971 mickey lolich 29 *************** fergiejenkins 30
1972 gaylord perry 29 ************** steve carlton 30
1975 catfish hunter 30 **************** andy messersmith 19
1982 dave stieb 19 *************** steve carlton 19
1985 bert blyleven 24 ************ dwight gooden 16
1989 bret saberhagen 12 *************** bruce hurst 10
1994 randy johnson 9 *************** greg maddux 10
2000 david wells 9 *************** randy johnson 8
2002 paul byrd 7 ************* randy johnson 8
2006 c.c. sabathia 6 ************* aaronharang 6


what a dropoff wow