Chado's 2008 NHL Playoffs Picks - Conference Semi Finals (Round 2)!!!

[BrezzeEaze]

The "3-0 chase system" presented by Chado looks like it would make you money, but at what cost? It requires bankroll, which Chado stated, but it seems to me the reward is not worth all the grief...I believe Frank was poining out that Chado Hab's pick (a big chase) to win Game 5 was the real issue here...He bet with heart on his favorite team and they let him down..All his profits that he built up in Round 1 evaporated in one chase bet and now he will have to raise the wagers in the "3-0 Chase System" to get back into the black....
Bottom line ....Chasing is not a wise wagering practice period...

[MR Pain]

First, I mentioned earlier in the thread that I don't think chase systems are worth the investment. See post #121.

A few years ago a BC member had a another chase system on the Yanks. The previous season the Yanks never lost more than 2 games. They were supposed to be a better team with additional acquisitions. A month into the season the BC member took a bath.

Second, I also said in my post that it's very possible long-term these 3-0 chase systems might be profitable.

Finally, we are three years removed from a losing chase. That chase would have cost the bettor approx $2200. It'll take 22 series to recover those losses and probably about 2 to 3 years. Also, how many sport bettors here at BC have the bankroll to chase $100 with $2200? Some locals won't allow bettors to play chase systems. At some point they cut them off.




As I mentioned above it'll take years to recover one loss.


To be honest except for the Rangers I have no idea what other series was 3-0. I created the amateur post after I read yesterday Chado had an almost GOY at -170. It had nothing to do with 'helping' but more to do with informing. Informing other members that chasing the Yanks would have cost $2200.

An experienced bettor that bet Montreal for the series would have been betting Flyers in the individual games.

first let's adress the fact that i don't care if you think chase systems are worth the investment, if it's not worth it leave it alone.

secondly your talking about baseball funny, funny, funny, you refer to a month into the season, which would indicate someone was not only chasing baseball, but regular season baseball. This is playoff hockey we are talking about, not regular season baseball, and if you are referring to the boston sweep then i do apologize. I would never chase a sport in which there is no instant replay, some ump can make any call he wants at any base, and most players are worried more about if they have enough sunflower seeds, and where they are going to dinner than winning.

thirdly you are correct in the long term in this case the 3-0 chase did pay off.

4th on the list you keep mentioning this 2,200. was it you frank ? if it was sorry, but see my comment about baseball above. Completeley different for me. Bottom line is I don't think I have ever chased anything but the NHL playoffs. I would never chase anything else under any circumstance. I know it will take years to recover from 1 loss. I understand that, that is why it is called gambling, obviously I'm taking a risk, that's the way it goes.

frank when I get my 1st loss I'll be sure to let you know that way you can tell me how long it will take to get it back. (maybe it's just me but i usually figure those things out before I put my plays in, doesn't everyone ?)

To answer your question 5th on your list Pitt, Dall, and Det were all up 3-0. I did NOT agree with chado's pick(mon -170) there, and would have been doing what you stated which was taking the flyers on individual games, if I already had a lot on the series. That I do agree with, but frank again with the 2,200. I get it, trust me I do but it's over, the chase is complete and it worked. (anyone who mentions that 2,200 either lost it themselves or is just from new york, because they can't stop talking about the yankees, I should know I'm originally from there ! originally from long island how about you frank?)

[MR Pain]

The "3-0 chase system" presented by Chado looks like it would make you money, but at what cost? It requires bankroll, which Chado stated, but it seems to me the reward is not worth all the grief...I believe Frank was poining out that Chado Hab's pick (a big chase) to win Game 5 was the real issue here...He bet with heart on his favorite team and they let him down..All his profits that he built up in Round 1 evaporated in one chase bet and now he will have to raise the wagers in the "3-0 Chase System" to get back into the black....
Bottom line ....Chasing is not a wise wagering practice period...

well stated breeze, I do agree that the montreal chase was not a wise move at all, and if that was really what frank was referring to, then he is absolutely right. Never bet with the heart, and if you do be prepared. I was only doing the 3-0 series chase.

[frankb03]

first let's adress the fact that i don't care if you think chase systems are worth the investment, if it's not worth it leave it alone.

No, I won't leave it alone. If every BC member refrained from expressing their opinion and "left it alone" then they'd be no threads. You're expressing your opinion you think Chase systems are worth it. Great! I'm expressing my displeasure with them.

4th on the list you keep mentioning this 2,200. was it you frank ?

No it wasn't me. I rarely bet baseball. It's not a sport I enjoy betting. I did the research yesterday when I posted. The 4 Yankee losses were at -135, +135, -135 and -160.

you refer to a month into the season, which would indicate someone was not only chasing baseball, but regular season baseball.

Yes it was regular season baseball. No I wasn't the BC member that was going to chase the Yanks after a loss the entire season. I believe it was for the 2006 season. Ironically, it was another young 20-something bettor.

Yes I did. Leafs in the 40's, Isles in the 70's, and the Red Sox in MLB 3 or 4 years back. Those are the 3. But a team has been up 3-0 and closed out the series at least more than 1000 times in NHL, MLB, and NBA over the entire history of all 3 leagues.

How many of those 1000 3-0 series has Chado bet.

[frankb03]

or is just from new york, because they can't stop talking about the yankees, I should know I'm originally from there ! originally from long island how about you frank?)

FYI I'm a Mets fan. I root against the Yanks.

I'm originally from LI. I grew up in Franklin Square. I left LI and moved to Florida in 1996.

[Kaptain]

Mr Pain

well stated breeze, I do agree that the montreal chase was not a wise move at all, and if that was really what frank was referring to, then he is absolutely right. Never bet with the heart, and if you do be prepared. I was only doing the 3-0 series chase.

Frankb03 SAID the following..........

............He took Montreal in his series bet. He should have considered betting on Philly in the individual games especially a hot team at +160 in game 5. Instead he chose to chase his series wager because he's a fan. Sports bettors need to separate their loyalty to their team with their loyalty with their wallet. Otherwise, avoid games that your team is playing.....................

you said the following..........

well stated breeze, I do agree that the montreal chase was not a wise move at all, and if that was really what frank was referring to, then he is absolutely right. Never bet with the heart, and if you do be prepared. I was only doing the 3-0 series chase.

...............

so you're both saying the same thing.....Frank usually presents himeslf accurately and with supported data....

he also knows you need no help in knowing how long/what it takes to recoup, if one does lose a chase like this......he merely gave you his opinion on Chasing, when in actuality, it's been stated by numerous profesionals, numerous times, it's not the way to go....

you've been fortunate thus FAR, HOPE IT CONTINUES FOR YA, each to his own on how they bet, and also each to his own, as to how the feel about that particular chase system.......

Best to ya in your future plays....

[frankb03]

Final point regarding the $2200. I did the research because on the surface an easy $100 sounds great To prove my side of the argument I posted the possible risk for that $100. IMO most sport bettors would cut their losses and abandon the chase after 2 loses. Many wouldn't have the balls to risk $500 then $1000.

[Chado1]

Well I havent logged on since Saturday night and I can see the people that have crushes on me are all up in my thread once again (frank, Breeze, and Kapt)...I love you guys too..

And Frank you say that someone would have lost $2200 in the chase for the Yanks to close out that series a few years back but you failed to mention all the profit they would have gained from 1975 (the last time it was done with the Islanders) up until 03 or 04 when the Sox did it. Thats almost 30 years of team closing out series up 3-0 which would have profited well over the $2200....

[Chado1]

And yes I already stated that chasing is never a good idea and this was an exceptional basis for the to win the series up 3-0 chase system. I do agree that my bet on the Habs on Saturday night was a different chase all alone that burned me and was a rookie mistake that is live and learn. Anyone who wants to make money int he long run has to do exactly what Spark does. You must play every thing for the same amount regardless of how much you may like a game but this is easier said than done and is why so many people lose. Gonna play every thing for 1 unit and 1 unit only starting with CFL season in June and also with next years NHL season in October...

[frankb03]

And Frank you say that someone would have lost $2200 in the chase for the Yanks to close out that series a few years back but you failed to mention all the profit they would have gained from 1975 (the last time it was done with the Islanders) up until 03 or 04 when the Sox did it. Thats almost 30 years of team closing out series up 3-0 which would have profited well over the $2200....

Once again I prefaced my post by stating the following:

It's possible that long term they might be profitable.

These chase systems are back-fitted. How many series did you bet in those 30 years? NONE

How many have you bet since 2004? Did you post NHL chase plays last season?

[Chado1]

Once again I prefaced my post by stating the following:



These chase systems are back-fitted. How many series did you bet in those 30 years? NONE

How many have you bet since 2004? Did you post NHL chase plays last season?

Of course I did not but when something hits at over 99.999999999% of the time I will continue to do it hopeing that it will be another 30 years from the Sox comeback in 04...maybe it wont happen again until 2034 cause it happend in the 40's (30 years later) the 70's, and 30 years later 03/04 so its seems to happen every 30 years or so right?

[frankb03]

And Frank you say that someone would have lost $2200 in the chase for the Yanks to close out that series a few years back but you failed to mention all the profit they would have gained from 1975 (the last time it was done with the Islanders) up until 03 or 04 when the Sox did it. Thats almost 30 years of team closing out series up 3-0 which would have profited well over the $2200....

I agree! Someone would have made a boat load of money in those 30 years. But how many have done so?

[Kaptain]

Chado--Chado--Chado

Well I havent logged on since Saturday night and I can see the people that have crushes on me are all up in my thread once again (frank, Breeze, and Kapt)...I love you guys too..

And Frank you say that someone would have lost $2200 in the chase for the Yanks to close out that series a few years back but you failed to mention all the profit they would have gained from 1975 (the last time it was done with the Islanders) up until 03 or 04 when the Sox did it. Thats almost 30 years of team closing out series up 3-0 which would have profited well over the $2200....

One more time, you're doing the same thing that keep syour young imature ass in trouble on this Forum....how many times have I tried to tel you the following....

READ ( I should say Peruse---read carefully, not just glance at it)

Comprehend (means to thoroughly understand Chado)

Reatin (means to absorb and store in that warped mind of yours)

Count to ten before firing back (means leave your imature compulsiveness out----think---look before firing another erroneous (means wrong) shot....

here's what I said......try reading it again.....

Kapt Said

.............so you're both saying the same thing.....Frank usually presents himeslf accurately and with supported data....

he also knows you need no help in knowing how long/what it takes to recoup, if one does lose a chase like this......he merely gave you his opinion on Chasing, when in actuality, it's been stated by numerous profesionals, numerous times, it's not the way to go....

you've been fortunate thus FAR, HOPE IT CONTINUES FOR YA, each to his own on how they bet, and also each to his own, as to how the feel about that particular chase system.......

Best to ya in your future plays....

now can you me the favor/justice of hi lighting in RED, the parts where I crushed you in "YOUR" thread, "once again".......

I have given you the benefit of the doubt for a long time, tried to help you, guide you, and the more I do, the WORSE you get...

So fvkn sorry people are talking about good gambling sense, debating various methods, giving opinions, in your fvkn thread.....next thing it's gonna be is, you saying, "get the hell out of my forum"....



your arrogance/sarcasm/ almight never wrong attitude is what all this about.....until you chang, not the fvkn world, and 99 % of this Forums members, you're destined to be questioned, called out, contradicted, and proven wrong many times....

learn from it Chado, er I mean "LIL CHUCK", and while I'm referring to "Big Chuck", he's an improvement over you....

GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZ---grow the fvk up

[BrezzeEaze]

sorry I forgot to ask permission to enter your thread (get over yourself already) and help clarify that chasing is not a very sound wagering strategy...it not always about you....

[Kaptain]

breeze

sorry I forgot to ask permission to enter your thread (get over yourself already) and help clarify that chasing is not a very sound wagering strategy...it not always about you....

Breeze----it is when you suffer from excessive Narcissism.....like he does.....


nar·cis·sism (närs-szm) also nar·cism (-szm)
n.
1. Excessive love or admiration of oneself. See Synonyms at conceit.
2. A psychological condition characterized by self-preoccupation, lack of empathy, and unconscious deficits in self-esteem.
3. Erotic pleasure derived from contemplation or admiration of one's own body or self, especially as a fixation on or a regression to an infantile stage of development.
4. The attribute of the human psyche charactized by admiration of oneself but within normal limits.