Saturday Trends and Indexes 04/12

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NBA


Saturday, April 12


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POWER INDEX
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9-3 SU yesterday.

Boston 4 over Atlanta*
Washington* 3 over Philadelphia
Indiana* 6 over Charlotte
Memphis* 4 over Minnesota
Milwaukee* 1.5 over New Jersey
Utah* 6.5 over Denver
Dallas 3 over Portland*
New Orleans 2.5 over Sacramento*
Golden State* 13.5 over L.A. Clippers

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MLB


Saturday, April 12


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Hot lines: Saturday's best MLB bets
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Yankees vs. Red Sox (-155, 9 1/2)

As long as oddsmakers keep setting totals around the double-digit mark for Yankee games, we might as well keep riding the under.

The over/under is now 1-10 in New York games this season following last night's 4-1 victory over Boston. Tonight Josh Beckett looks to shake off a poor first outing and Mike Mussina takes the mound for the Yanks.

It is supposed to be cool with some wind blowing out toward the green monster and there's a good chance of rain in Boston, so keep an eye on the weather here.

Pick: under 9 1/2


Florida vs. Houston (+120, 9 1/2)

Somebody must have forgotten to tell the young Marlins they weren't supposed to be any good this year. They've jumped out to a 7-3 start and they've won more money for bettors than any team in the majors so far with more than six units (over $600 if you?re betting $100 each game).

Florida has been doing it with hitting and the club has scored 10 runs in three of its outings during a current four-game winning streak. Last night the Marlins set a club record by smashing out six long balls against the Astros and their respectable arm of Roy Oswalt.

The best part for the Marlins is they are getting production from many sources. Five different players hit dingers last night and seven Fish have multiple homers on the season. Mike Jacobs is tied for the lead in the bigs with five home runs.

Pick: over 9 1/2


Toronto vs. Texas (+135, 9 1/2)

Defense is something we tend to overlook when it comes to capping baseball. So you may not have realized the Rangers lead the majors in errors with 12 after committing three in an 8-5 loss to the Jays on Friday.

According to a report in the Dallas Morning News, the Rangers "booted, bobbled and misplayed balls all over the field." The end result wasn't a good one against a team that loves to run the bags aggressively and Toronto's Greg Zaun even stole home on a double-steal play with the ball thrown to second base.

Luis Mendoza makes his first start of the season for the Rangers and just the fourth of his major league career today. You can't think his nerves will be calmed any by what he saw yesterday.

Pick: Toronto -145

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MLB
Short Sheet


Saturday, April 12th

National League

Atlanta at Washington, 1:05 ET
John Smoltz (R) vs. John Lannan (L)
Smoltz: 4-11 TSR Away vs. division
Lannan: Wash 16-4 Under as a home underdog of +150 to +175

Milwaukee at NY Mets, 1:10 ET
Ben Sheets (R) vs. Johan Santana (L)
Sheets: Mil 3-16 Away if the total is 7.5 or less
Santana: 40-8 TSR off BB team wins

Colorado at Arizona, 3:55 ET FOX
Franklin Morales (L) vs. Dan Haren (R)
Morales: Col 0-4 vs. Arizona
Haren: Ari 7-0 vs. division

St. Louis at San Francisco, 4:05 ET
Todd Wellemeyer (R) vs. Matt Cain (R)
Wellemeyer: 10-3 TSR in all games
Cain: 5-21 TSR if the total is 7 to 8.5

Cincinnati at Pittsburgh, 7:05 ET
Bronson Arroyo (R) vs. Ian Snell (R)
Arroyo: 3-15 TSR in road games
Snell: Pit 19-5 Over on Saturday

Florida at Houston, 7:05 ET
Andrew Miller (L) vs. Brandon Backe (R)
Miller: Fla 24-9 Over in April
Backe: 21-5 TSR at home

Chicago Cubs at Philadelphia, 7:05 ET
Ted Lilly (L) vs. Cole Hamels (L)
Lilly: Cubs 26-12 Under Away off loss
Hamels: 15-3 TSR vs. NL Central

San Diego at LA Dodgers, 10:10 ET
Chris Young (R) vs. Derek Lowe (R)
Young: 19-10 TSR as an underdog
Lowe: LAD 2-11 off BB losses by 2 runs or less

American League

Detroit at Chicago White Sox, 1:05 ET
Justin Verlander (R) vs. Gavin Floyd (R)
Verlander: Det 0-6 as a favorite
Floyd: White Sox 26-15 vs. Detroit

NY Yankees at Boston, 3:55 ET FOX
Mike Mussina (R) vs. Josh Beckett (R)
Mussina: Yankees 1-7 after allowing 1 run or less BB games
Beckett: Bos 20-5 after scoring 1 run or less

Oakland at Cleveland, 7:05 ET
Lenny DiNardo (L) vs. Fausto Carmona (R)
DiNardo: Oak 4-0 in road games
Carmona: 6-1 Over in April

Minnesota at Kansas City, 7:10 ET
Boof Bonser (R) vs. Brett Tomko (R)
Bonser: 12-3 Under off a team win
Tomko: 13-3 Under at home on Saturday

Baltimore at Tampa Bay, 7:10 ET
Daniel Cabrera (R) vs. Jason Hammel (R)
Cabrera: 15-2 Over on Saturday
Hammel: TB 13-35 off BB wins

Toronto at Texas, 8:05 ET
Roy Halladay (R) vs. Luis Mendoza (R)
Halladay: 39-15 TSR as favorite
Mendoza: Tex 49-31 Under at home

LA Angels at Seattle, 9:10 ET
John Garland (R) vs. Carlos Silva (R)
Garland: 5-14 TSR when the total is 9 to 9.5
Silva: Sea 20-10 after scoring 8+ runs

** (TC) Denotes Time Change

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NHL


Saturday, April 12


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Ice picks: Saturday's best NHL bets
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Boston vs. Montreal (-210, 5)

There are times when the regular season series doesn't matter come playoff time and there are times when a team goes 8-0 against the other.

That's what the Habs did against the Bruins this year and they added to the domination with a 4-1 win in Game 1 of this series.

The Bruins were able to hang with Montreal for about two periods, but the relentless physical play and constant rolling of lines finally caught up to the Bruins. The Canadiens controlled things for most of the game and outshot Boston 32-18.

The truth is that the Habs just have too much depth for the Bruins. It's inspiring to see Boston center Marc Savard return so soon from a broken back, but the Bruins will need more than that to steal one from Montreal.

Pick: Montreal -1 1/2 (+135)


Dallas vs. Anaheim (-170, 4 1/2)

In Thursday's Ice Picks, we discussed the importance of the power play in this season series. The team that scored more power play goals has won every game this series and in the two games where they scored the same number of PP goals, Dallas won both times.

Unfortunately, we made the mistake of underestimating the Stars' power play in the playoffs due to the absence of Sergei Zubov. Anaheim must have underestimated it too because the Ducks committed seven penalties and the Stars buried four power play goals in a 4-0 win.

If you think the win was an anomaly against these veteran Stanley Cup champs, you might want to reconsider. Dallas looked like a confident squad Thursday night and upsets have been known to happen to Cup defenders.

In fact, the last time a defending Stanley Cup champion won a playoff series was when the Avalanche did it in 2002.

Pick: Dallas +160

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NBA


Saturday, April 12


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Tips and Trends
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Philadelphia 76ers at Washington Wizards [7 PM ET]

76ers: The 76ers have already clinched a spot in the playoffs and are now trying to win as many games as possible to get the best seed they can. They're aware that finishing fifth or sixth would allow them to face the Cavaliers or Magic and avoid the Pistons or Celtics. Philadelphia is 10-2 ATS in its last 12 road games overall and put up 109 points in their recent road contest in Atlanta. The Sixers have defeated Washington in back-to-back meetings but only by a combined 6 points.

76ers are 24-9-1 ATS in their last 34 games overall.

Key Injuries - NONE

PROJECTED SCORE: 100

Wizards (-4, O/U 197): The Wizards are just beginning to make their presence felt in the East, with Caron Butler, Antawn Jamison and Gilbert Arenas all finally playing together. Washington showcased what it is made of on Wednesday night against the Celtics and has covered the point spread in 4 out of the last 6 meetings with Philly.

The OVER is 9-1 in Washington's last 10 home games.

Key Injuries - NONE

PROJECTED SCORE: 104 (OVER - Total Play of the Day)



Denver Nuggets at Utah Jazz [9 PM ET]

Nuggets: The Nuggets will try to strengthen their hold on a playoff berth as they play their final road game of the season. Denver got 33 points from Allen Iverson and 25 from Carmelo Anthony in defeating Golden State on Thursday 114-105 to move a game ahead of the Warriors for eighth place in the West. Nuggets head coach George Karl said: "We get to enjoy this victory for a day." Karl is well aware that his team has lost 20 of 23 at Utah since 1996.

Nuggets are 2-8 ATS in the last 10 meetings.

Key Injuries - NONE

PROJECTED SCORE: 110

Jazz (-6.5, O/U 226.5): The Jazz are looking to bounce back after a 97-94 loss to Dallas on Thursday as they return home to the EnergySolutions Arena, where they have lost just once in their last 26 contests. As a division winner, Utah can finish no worse than the No. 4 seed in the West and appears unlikely to move up, yet the starters have continued to log minutes. The Jazz defeated the Nuggets 132-105 in the lone meeting at Salt Lake this season.

Favorite is 10-4 ATS in the last 14 meetings.

Key Injuries - NONE

PROJECTED SCORE: 116



New Orleans Hornets at Sacramento Kings [10 PM ET]

Hornets (-8, O/U 211): The Hornets are clinging to the No. 1 seed in the West and are not sneaking up on anyone anymore, but they are also in the middle of a very tough stretch to close out the season: Lakers last night, Kings tonight and Mavs Wednesday night. Chris Paul has been quoted as saying: "We are up to the challenge." They allowed this Sacramento team to drop 112 points on them last time at Arco Arena in a 9-point defeat.

Favorite is 7-2 ATS in the last 9 meetings.

Key Injuries - NONE

PROJECTED SCORE: 110

Kings (NA): The Kings have quickly gone from spoilers to spoiled. After beating Houston and Denver this month to stymie the respective playoff positioning of those teams, the Kings fell to Golden State on Tuesday after losing to the Lakers on Sunday. Small forward Ron Artest is battling a sprained left thumb while center Brad Miller will not return due to a leg injury. Sacramento?s defense has simply been non-existent lately and allowed 140 points in its Tuesday loss at Golden State. The Kings have covered the point spread just 3 times over the last 2+ years in this matchup with New Orleans.

Home team is 13-3-1 ATS in the last 17 meetings.

Key Injuries - C Brad Miller (13 ppg; leg) is OUT.
F Ron Artest (21 ppg; thumb) is questionable

PROJECTED SCORE: 102

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NBA
Short Sheet


Saturday, April 11th

Charlotte at Indiana, 7:05 ET
Charlotte: 5-1 ATS at Indiana
Indiana: 2-8 ATS after having won 6 or 7 of their last 8

Philadelphia at Washington, 7:05 ET
Philadelphia: 11-3 ATS after allowing 85 points or less
Washington: 3-14 ATS at home at home off DD road loss

Boston at Atlanta, 7:05 ET
Boston: 20-4 ATS off DD home win
Atlanta: 3-0 Over off DD road win

Minnesota at Memphis, 8:05 ET
Minnesota: 13-4 Over off road win
Memphis: 0-8 ATS at home after playing as a favorite

New Jersey at Milwaukee, 8:35 ET
New Jersey: 0-6 ATS playing their 3rd road game in 4 days
Milwaukee: 3-14 ATS vs. Atlantic Division

Denver at Utah, 9:05 ET
Denver: 14-1 ATS off BB road games
Utah: 26-17 Over off ATS win

New Orleans at Sacramento, 10:05 ET
New Orleans: 3-10 ATS at Sacramento
Sacramento: 5-1 ATS in April

Dallas at Portland, 10:05 ET
Dallas: 3-11 ATS after covering 4 or 5 of their last 6
Portland: 12-4 Under vs. Southwest Division

LA Clippers at Golden State, 10:35 ET
LA Clippers: 7-17 ATS revenging DD loss
Golden State: 4-1 ATS at home vs. Clippers

** (TC) Denotes Time Change

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NHL
Dunkel


Dallas at Anaheim
The Stars dominated the Ducks in the opener (4-0) and look poised to continue the roll behind hot goaltender Marty Turco (23 saves). Dallas is the underdog pick (+160) according to Dunkel, which has the Stars favored straight up by 1. Dunkel Pick: Dallas (+160). Here are all of today's games.

SATURDAY, APRIL 12

Game 23-24: Nashville at Detroit
Dunkel Ratings: Nashville 11.271; Detroit 11.907
Dunkel Line & Total: Detroit by 1; 4
Vegas Line & Total: Detroit (-260); 5
Dunkel Pick: Detroit (-260); Under

Game 25-26: Boston at Montreal
Dunkel Ratings: Boston 10.789; Montreal 11.936
Dunkel Line & Total: Montreal by 1; 4
Vegas Line & Total: Montreal (-210); 5
Dunkel Pick: Montreal (-210); Under

Game 27-28: Dallas at Anaheim
Dunkel Ratings: Dallas 12.445; Anaheim 11.655
Dunkel Line & Total: Dallas by 1; 5
Vegas Line & Total: Anaheim (-180); 4 1/2
Dunkel Pick: Dallas (+160); Over

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NBA
Dunkel


Denver at Utah
The Nuggets come off an emotional win at Golden State, but run into a Utah team that is 16-2 at home ATS against teams with winning records in the second half of the season. The Jazz are the pick (-5 1/2) according to Dunkel, which has Utah favored by 9. Dunkel Pick: Utah (-5 1/2). Here are all of today's games.

SATURDAY, APRIL 12

Game 501-502: Charlotte at Indiana
Dunkel Ratings: Charlotte 114.960; Indiana 122.557
Dunkel Line & Total: Indiana by 7 1/2; 213 1/2
Vegas Line & Total: Indiana by 9; 213
Dunkel Pick: Charlotte (+9); Over

Game 503-504: Philadelphia at Washington
Dunkel Ratings: Philadelphia 119.670; Washington 119.323
Dunkel Line & Total: Even; 195
Vegas Line & Total: Washington by 4; 199 1/2
Dunkel Pick: Philadelphia (+4); Under

Game 505-506: Boston at Atlanta
Dunkel Ratings: Boston 125.481; Atlanta 123.805
Dunkel Line & Total: Boston by 1 1/2; 194
Vegas Line & Total: Boston by 3; 197
Dunkel Pick: Atlanta (+3); Under

Game 507-508: Minnesota at Memphis
Dunkel Ratings: Minnesota 109.519; Memphis 113.842
Dunkel Line & Total: Memphis by 4 1/2; 219
Vegas Line & Total: Memphis by 3 1/2; 213
Dunkel Pick: Memphis (-4); Over

Game 509-510: New Jersey at Milwaukee
Dunkel Ratings: New Jersey 110.539; Milwaukee 115.787
Dunkel Line & Total: Milwaukee by 5; 210
Vegas Line & Total: Milwaukee by 2 1/2; 207
Dunkel Pick: Milwaukee (-2 1/2); Over

Game 511-512: Denver at Utah
Dunkel Ratings: Denver 120.679; Utah 129.894
Dunkel Line & Total: Utah by 9; 221
Vegas Line & Total: Utah by 5 1/2; 225 1/2
Dunkel Pick: Utah (-5 1/2); Under

Game 513-514: New Orleans at Sacramento
Dunkel Ratings: New Orleans 123.810; Sacramento 119.796
Dunkel Line & Total: New Orleans by 4; 206
Vegas Line & Total: New Orleans by 9; 210
Dunkel Pick: Sacramento (+9); Under

Game 515-516: Dallas at Portland
Dunkel Ratings: Dallas 124.898; Portland 115.816
Dunkel Line & Total: Dallas by 9; 179
Vegas Line & Total: Dallas by 3 1/2; 187
Dunkel Pick: Dallas (-3 1/2); Under

Game 517-518: LA Clippers at Golden State
Dunkel Ratings: LA Clippers 106.038; Golden State 124.786
Dunkel Line & Total: Golden State by 19; 211
Vegas Line & Total: Golden State by 16 1/2; 217
Dunkel Pick: Golden State (-16 1/2); Under

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MLB
Write-Up


Saturday, April 12


Hot Pitchers
-- Smoltz tossed five shutout innings vs Mets in his only start so far this season. Lannan allowed two runs in 6.2 IP in his first '08 start, a 3-0 loss to Cardinals.
-- Sheets hasn't allowed a run in 15.1 IP so far this season. In his first two Met starts, Santana is 1-1, 1.93.
-- Morales threw six shutout innings in his first '08 start.
-- Pirates are 2-0 in Snell starts, scoring 16 runs.
-- Wellemeyer is 1-0, 2.25 in two starts this season.
-- Backe has 3.27 RA in two starts, but Astros lost both games, scoring total of three runs.
-- Hamels is 1-1, 1.80 in two starts this season.
-- Lowe allowed two runs in six IP in both '07 starts-- Dodgers won both games after Lowe left. Young is 1-0, 2.13 in his first two starts this season.

-- Floyd beat Detroit 5-3 in his first '08 start (three runs/six IP)
-- Carmona is 1-0, 1.38 in two starts this season.
-- Tomko blanked Twins for five innings in first '08 start (W3-1)
-- Texas was 3-0 in Mendoza starts LY (1-0, 2.31).
-- Silva is 1-0, 3.21 in two starts this season.

Cold Pitchers
-- Haren allowed three runs in six IP in each of his first two Arizona starts.
-- Cain is 0-1, 4.50 in two starts this season.
-- Arroyo is 0-1, 7.59 in two starts this season.
-- Miller is 0-1, 12.91 in two starts this season.
-- Lilly is 0-1, 8.33 in two starts this season.

-- Verlander is 0-1, 10.03 in two starts this season.
-- Mussina is 1-1, 3.86 in two starts this year. Beckett allowed five runs in 4.2 IP in his first '08 start.
-- Bonser is 0-2, 4.77 in two starts this season.
-- Cabrera has 9.00 RA in his first two '08 starts. Hammel lost his first '08 start 6-1 in Bronx, allowing four runs in six IP.
-- Halladay is 1-1, 4.20 in two starts this season.
-- Garland has 5.54 RA in first two starts this season.

Pitchers vs Teams
-- Smoltz was 3-2, 2.48 vs Washington LY.
-- Sheets beat Mets 12-3 LY (three runs in six IP).
-- Morales is 1-0, 0.90 in two starts vs Arizona.
-- Wellemeyer beat Giants 7-0 LY, tossing five shutout innings.
-- Arroyo was 1-1, 6.30 vs Pirates LY. Snell was 1-3, 5.68 in his last four starts vs Cincinnati.
-- Lilly was 1-1, 3.46 against Philly LY. Hamels was 2-0, 1.80 vs the Cubs last season.
-- Lowe is 1-1, 5.11 in last four starts against Padres. Young is
1-0, 1.80 in his last three starts against the Dodgers.

-- Verlander is 0-1, 4.21 in his last four starts vs Chicago. Floyd is 2-0, 2.00 in his last three starts against Detroit.
-- Mussina was 0-1, 9.26 in two starts vs Red Soix LY. Beckett was 2-1, 4.72 in four starts vs Bronx last season.
-- Carmona was 2-1, 7.71 against the A's LY. Dinardo beat Tribe 13-7 LY, allowing two runs in five IP.
-- Bonser is 1-3, 5.58 in his last six starts against Royals.
-- Hammel allowed five runs in six IP in his only '07 starts vs the Orioles. Cabrera is 3-1, 4.80 in his last five starts vs Rays.
-- Home team was 3-0 in Halladay's starts vs Texas LY; he was 2-1, 6.20, allowing nine runs in 5.1 IP in his start at Texas,
-- Garland allowed ten runs in 2.2 IP in only '07 start vs Seattle. Silva beat Angels 8-4 LY, allowing two runs in seven IP.

Totals
-- Four of five Atlanta road games stayed under the total.
-- Four of last five Brewer, Met games stayed under the total.
-- Three of last four Arizona games went over the total.
-- Three of last four Giant games stayed under the total.
-- Under is 4-1-1 in last six Cincinnati games.
-- Over is 8-1-1 in Florida games this season.
-- Four of last five Philly games stayed under the total.
-- Three of last four Dodger games went over the total.


-- Three of last four Detroit games stayed under the total.
-- Last seven Bronx games stayed under the total.
-- Three of last four Cleveland games went over the total.
-- Under is 8-1 in Royals' last nine games.
-- Five of last six Baltimore games stayed under the total.
-- Over is 4-1-1 in last six Toronto games.
-- Four of last five Angel games went over the total.

Hot Teams
-- Mets won their last three games, allowing seven runs.
-- Arizona won last seven games, scoring 52 runs. Colorado won three of its last four games.
-- Cardinals won eight of their last ten games. Giants won three of their last four games.
-- First-place Marlins won last four games, scoring 34 runs.
-- Cubs won five of their last six games.


-- White Sox won five of their last seven games.
-- Bronx won four of last six games, allowing two runs in its last two games.
-- First-place A's won six of their last seven games.
-- Mariners won three of their last four games. Angels are 4-0 in game following a loss this season.



Cold Teams
-- Braves lost three of last four games, allowing 18 runs. Nats lost eight in row, after starting season 3-0.
-- Brewers lost last three games, scoring seven runs.
-- Pirates lost five of their last seven games.
-- Astros lost five of their last six games.
-- Dodgers lost last four games, outscored 30-16.

-- Tigers lost eight of their first ten games.
-- Red Sox lost five of their last seven games.
-- Indians lost six of their last eight games.
-- Royals lost last two games, scoring total of one run.
-- Rays lost four of last six games. Orioles lost last three games.
-- Toronto lost three of their last four games.

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NHL
Write-Up


Saturday, April 12

2008 NHL playoffs
Opening Round

Detroit beat Nashville 3-1 in Game 1, their 10th win in last 13 vs Predators, with seven of last ten staying under total. In Game 1, Red Wings outshot Nashville 40-20 (30-9 in last two periods). Preds lost eight of last nine visits to Motor City, scoring total of one goal in their last two games here.

Canadiens beat Bruins 3-1 in Game 1, their 12th straight win vs Boston, its personal punching bag. Habs scored two goals in first 2:01 to seal Game 1 early; shots were 32-18. Canadiens won despite being 0-6 on power play. Five of last seven series tilts went over total. Bruins are in deep trouble here.

Dallas shut Ducks out 4-0 in Game 1, scoring four power play goals in seven chances (man up for 9:35). Stars are 7-5 in its last dozen visits to Pond. Shots on goal in Game 1 were 37-23 Stars. Anaheim had only three power play chances, for a total of 4:57. Last three series games stayed under the total.

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NBA
Write-Up


Saturday, April 12


NBA Games

Pacers trail Atlanta by two games in race for final playoff spot in east; they're 10-3 in last 13 games, winning last four by 4-8-9-14 pts-- their last six games stayed under total. Charlotte has covered one of last six games, but won four of five on the road.

76ers are 22-9 in last thirty-one games- they won three of their last four road games (4-0 vs spread). Home side won all three of their games vs Wizards this year. Washington won three of last four games-- six of their last eight games went over total.

Hawks still have two-game lead for #8 spot in East; they're 3-1 in last four road games-- six of their last nine games went over the total. Celtics won eight of last nine games (7-2 vs spread) with five of their last seven games staying under the total.

Memphis is 0-4 vs spread in game after its last four wins; six of their last eight games went over total. Grizzlies beat Minnesota 113-101 on road Sunday. Timberwolves snapped six-game skid by upsetting Magic in Orlando Friday- they're 3-5 vs spread in their last eight road games.

Bucks lost last five games (2-3 vs spread); four of their last five games stayed under total- they lost three times to New Jersey this season, by 12-7-5 points. Nets lost six of last seven games, are 0-4 vs spread in last four on road0- they got crushed 113-85 in Toronto Friday.

Denver scored 114+ points in last nine games, winning its last two to gain edge in battle for last playoff spot in west. Utah is 7-1 vs spread in last eight games, winning four of last five SU; they lost by 3 at Dallas Thursday. Their last three games stayed under total.

Kings covered six of last seven games (5-2 vs spread) but the Hornets are in fight for top record in west. NO lost at Staples by three Friday night; they're 11-3 in their last fourteen games. Five of their last seven games stayed under the total.

Dallas won five of last six games to right ship as playoffs come up; five of their last six games stayed under total. Mavericks won two of three vs Portland this year. Blazers lost six of their last seven games- nine of their last ten games stayed under.

Golden State has to win out and hope Denver loses twice for Warriors to get in playoffs; they lost four of last six games (1-5 vs spread); four of their last five games stayed under the total. Except for Brand, Clippers are in tank; they lost last four games by 12-26-18-28 points, not real good.