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    Flowers for Wisconsin is a very tough guard defender- possibly the best. It takes somebody to slow Curry down and this matchup says Flowers will be up to the task.

    I am personally playing

    Wisconsin -2 1/2 for the first half.
    Davidson got out slow against another defensive stalwart in Georgetown and I see the same happening here tonight.

    I would also like to mention that Wisconsin has a strengh of schedule that is 5+ points higher than Davidson. Davidson racked up 20 straight wins against powerhouses like Elon, Wofford, UNC Greensboro, Furman and West Carolina just to name a few. Wisconsin has the Big Ten Conference and only lost 2 games to Purdue- thats it!

    Now some would say that Davidson creamed that Conference and I would hand them that and Curry averaged 13.0 points and 8.7 assists in the three games vs. UCLA, Duke and North Carolina- all losses. Davidson did lead UCLA at the half by 4 points but not in the other games mentioned.

    Again Curry will have his hands full with Flowers and may figure him out in the 2nd half but I will have won my bet and watch it play out. Jason Richards is the other guard and is also capable if Wisc. doubles up on Curry. Wisconsin is a better defensive team than Georgetown and I believe this first half will rival the Georgetown game in the first half by score.

    This is about chess pieces and Wisc's big man in the middle will create a mismatch here.


    2nd game

    Fla over UMass (NIT)
    Billy D played at Providence- He still feel the lights of New York and will have his team ready as he has had the last 2 years. The players have bought into the defense taking them the rest of the way! The crisp passing and high percentage shots will win out for the Gators.
    Last edited by Spearit; 03-28-2008, 02:44 PM.
    "The range of what we think and do is limited by what we fail to notice.

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    Gl Spearit!!

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    • #3
      bol spear

      luv the fla play.....its in a few days...lines -4..as of now

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      • #4
        BOL tonight Spear!!!
        SOBER SINCE MARCH 28TH OF 2007!!!

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        • #5
          BOL tonight Spear !

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          • #6
            Thanx - There will be little love on this game for Wisky as we need a cinderella- I am not opposed to it- just feel that Wisky will meet the opportunity in the first half.

            Yes- Fla is a get on it now situation. I can not go against the Gators now that they are in a neutral building. Donovan has sold his program to these players and I see no let up. Remember when he put an easy schedule at them in the first part of the season- they are young- and they will be heard from next year in the big tourney. Calathes has the tools and this game means alot more notice will be made of him.
            "The range of what we think and do is limited by what we fail to notice.

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            • #7
              good luck "S"
              jt4545


              Fat Tuesday's - Home

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              • #8
                Thanx JT

                DETROIT -- Despite the hype, it's not Stephen Curry vs. Michael Flowers.

                Much of the focus heading into Friday night's NCAA tournament Midwest Regional Sweet 16 game between the University of Wisconsin men's basketball team and Davidson has been on the Wildcats' offensive star and the Badgers' defensive wizard.

                For good reason. Curry, a 6-3 sophomore guard, dropped 70 points during 10th-seeded Davidson's impressive wins over seventh-seeded Gonzaga and second-seeded Georgetown in Raleigh last weekend.

                Flowers, a 6-2 senior guard, led the third-seeded Badgers' defensive effort during their impressive wins over 14th-seeded Cal State Fullerton and 11th-seeded Kansas State.

                The Badgers (31-4) held Cal State Fullerton, which averaged 82.8 points a game, to a season-low 56 and held Kansas State, which averaged 78 points a game, to a season-low 55.

                But while Flowers is the head of the Badgers' defensive monster, he gets tremendous help in his task of trying to slow down their opponent's best perimeter player every game.

                It's the same with Curry and the Wildcats (28-6), who work as hard on offense as the Badgers work on defense. Nobody understands that better than Davidson coach Bob McKillop.

                "That's what makes Wisconsin so good: It's not a one-man operation. We're not a one-man offensive operation with Steph Curry. Without the other pieces, Steph Curry may not be as efficient. So I think Wisconsin presents that same challenge for us," he said.

                Davidson has seen every kind and variation of defense this season as its opponents scheme to slow down Curry. It's doubtful, however, that Curry has been chased as effectively as he will be by Flowers Friday night.

                The chase is a major part of the Badgers' defense and every player is required to do it when he is on the floor. "We call it playing tag. Stay on the same route he takes," said UW assistant coach Greg Gard. "It's amazing when we start deviating from those routes and we don't chase, we might take a shortcut over the top or something like that happens, something bad usually happens."

                Flowers and teammate Joe Krabbenhoft are expert chasers, as were Clayton Hanson, Boo Wade and Freddie Owens before him. What they all have in common is, or was, the ability to wear down an opponent.

                A great example of that was Flowers' defense against Michigan State's Drew Neitzel, who went off for 26 points against Wisconsin during the Big Ten tournament but scored just two of them in the final nine minutes of the game the Badgers won 65-63.

                "He makes it look easy," sophomore point guard Trevon Hughes said of Flowers. "I know it's not that easy. I have to give credit where credit is due. He's got the footwork to fly by screeners and avoid them."

                "It's footwork and his willingness to get through the screens, too," Hughes added. "He won't let anything slow him up. He takes pride in his defense. He doesn't like letting anybody get open looks."

                But Flowers can't do it without his teammates helping him when he gets behind in the chase due to screeners or other factors. "I'm able to recover because there's either pressure on the ball or, you know, one of my 'bigs' has stepped out and now slowed down the person I'm chasing," Flowers said. "So it's a little bit of the individual and team help."

                That team help is where the Badgers have made their greatest improvement this season. The team that allowed Duke to average 1.1 points per possession in an 82-58 loss at Cameron Indoor Arena in late November allowed Big Ten Conference opponents to average just .091 points per possession this season -- Wisconsin's best mark in the 17 seasons that statistic has been tracked.

                That's a major reason why the Badgers won the Big Ten regular-season and tournament titles and are in the NCAA's Sweet 16.

                "It's timing and cohesiveness and being unselfish. People talk about being unselfish on the offensive end; you need to be an unselfish defensive team, too, and know you're going to have all four of your teammates' backs on the floor and you can trust them enough to know they have your back," said Gard.

                "So if you make a mistake or something goes awry, you know they can cover up for one another. That's what this group has done as well as any; to cover up blemishes and miscues here and there."

                Last but not least is the competitive edge a defender like Flowers has that plays an important role. He mentioned that his mom taught him to understand that players he defends will score on him.

                And they have as recently as Neitzel in the Big Ten tournament and Cal State Fullerton's Josh Akognon, who went off for 31 points against Wisconsin in a first-round NCAA tournament game.

                What mattered to Flowers was how hard they had to work at getting those points. It will be no different Friday night when he tries to slow down Curry, who is the hottest scorer in the country right now.

                "If he's hitting off-balance shots, one-handed floaters through the lane against, you know, four people, then there's nothing much I can do about that. The ball is going to go in if the ball goes in," Flowers explained "But I don't want to give him anything easy, and I definitely don't want to be the one to let my teammates down.

                "They're going to pick me up if I get bumped off a screens and what-not, and I'll do the same for them. So just make him work for his points and at the end of the game, I want him to be breathless and remember who and what team he played against and how hard he worked.

                "Hopefully," Flowers concluded, "I'll be able to do that."
                "The range of what we think and do is limited by what we fail to notice.

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                • #9
                  gl spearit
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                  • #10
                    May have to try that 1st half play, GL
                    You can't drink all day if you don't start in the morning

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                    • #11
                      Looks good, Spear. GL buddy
                      You can't always get what you want, but if you try some time, you might find, you get what you need.

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                      • #12
                        How did Davidson beat georgetown?

                        Georgetown 7-2 center Roy Hibbert held to six points and one rebound in 16 minutes before he fouled out. GT was easy prey in the 2nd half.
                        "The range of what we think and do is limited by what we fail to notice.

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                        • #13
                          Can you talk about Michael Flowers and the matchup with Stephen?
                          COACH McKILLOP: Jeremiah Rivers is a sensational defender. There was a team of defenders from Georgetown accompanying Jeremiah Rivers and the defensive staff. Steph has faced Marcus Ginyard, who is one of the great defenders in the country. He faced Westbrook from UCLA, one of the best defenders in the country. There are some unsung names that played for a variety of teams in the Southern Conference. Michael Flowers could have been or should have been Big-10 defensive Player of the Year, top two or three defenders in the country. Steph has a very big challenge in front of him. Our team has a big challenge in front of them. What Michael Flowers has is a great team of defenders accompanying him in their defensive game plan.
                          "The range of what we think and do is limited by what we fail to notice.

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                          • #14
                            Flowers was also quoted as saying: "Preparation for this game has been going on my whole career at Wisconsin. Hopefully, I was a good enough student of the game to make Curry react to me and make him uncomfortable and just discourage him from getting an open look." Having spent his career as Badger guarding scorers like Curry in Michigan State’s Drew Neitzel, Indiana’s Eric Gordon and former Illinois guard Dee Brown, Flowers knows what he's getting into. Keep in mind that the Badgers also faced a team with a pretty good player in their last game, as K-State's Michael Beasley is projected to go extremely high in the NBA draft. The result was a lopsided 17 point Wisconsin victory. That was the Badgers' 12th straight win with seven of the last eight of those victories coming by double-digits. Note that the well-coached Badgers are 6-0 SU and 5-1 ATS this season when having five or six day's rest in between games.
                            Last edited by Spearit; 03-28-2008, 05:32 PM.
                            "The range of what we think and do is limited by what we fail to notice.

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                            • #15
                              good luck
                              THINK BLUE

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