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  • #16
    Rocks,

    What you think is the reason for USF line dropping? LMU is terrible.

    Also how do you feel about SCU -11? Portland lost to LMU and is not very goos at all and on the road tonight.

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    • #17
      I like Santa Clara a bunch.  Almost made the cut to be posted here but I am playing it even though I didnt post.  And I really dont know what to make of the line dropping.  Couple interesting line moves tonight.  I put in Siena over 142 at about 6pm est.  Well just before gametime I checked again and it was 138 1/2.  I loaded up further and it ended at 146.  Also, the St. Joes line dropped a full point in the hour and a half leading up to gametime and presently they are up 18 at half over Villanova.  So, I guess what I am saying is that I dont know why these line drops are happening, but for tonight at least, its definitely not scaring me.    Hope this helped, probably didnt though.
      "The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by those who don't have it." George Bernard Shaw

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      • #18
        Originally posted by the lumberjack
        i just had san diego drop from -4.5 to -3 in the last hour!!
        Yea, odd stuff. After I posted it a 3.5 it went up to 4. Now as you said it is at 3 and has been sitting there for a while. Wouldnt surprise me if it moves again before gametime. Something fishy going on. Just hope, and think, I am on the right side of whatever that is.
        "The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by those who don't have it." George Bernard Shaw

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        • #19
          FUCK ME! I just lost a 4 grand parlay by the fucking hook after these faggots were up 16 in the 2nd half!!!!!!!!!!!
          Great Day To Win

          MLB 2008 (19-23-1) +3.0 units

          NBA 08-09 (10-7) + 1.59 units

          GOY (4-1)

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          • #20
            Unfreakingbelievable. Saw the final and couldnt believe it. For anyone that followed I truly apologize for those choking bastards. Tough one ElJugo, didnt get the game in my area so I have no idea what happened other than the fact that they folded like a tent.
            "The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by those who don't have it." George Bernard Shaw

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            • #21
              they missed a couple ft's and got zero stops like the last 7 mins. They basically started playing not to lose instead of continuing to crush like they had been. They were running the clock all the way down on all possessions and the Pepp. zone started to throw them off.
              Great Day To Win

              MLB 2008 (19-23-1) +3.0 units

              NBA 08-09 (10-7) + 1.59 units

              GOY (4-1)

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              • #22
                Hogwash man, very bad beat Eb.....vegas is gettin super super sharp with their hoops numbers period...look at that Kansas game...Siena....Philly Atlanta landed spot on side and total 96-91

                PEACE

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by MtrCtyPimp
                  Hogwash man, very bad beat Eb.....vegas is gettin super super sharp with their hoops numbers period...look at that Kansas game...Siena....Philly Atlanta landed spot on side and total 96-91

                  PEACE
                  sharp, possibly, but like a caller said today on the radio here in Vegas, "If you think Vegas doesn't have a hand in these games, you're an idiot"

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by LVJimmy
                    sharp, possibly, but like a caller said today on the radio here in Vegas, "If you think Vegas doesn't have a hand in these games, you're an idiot"
                    I dont think Vegas has anything to do with this shit.....I know there has been point shaving in the past so thats not out of the question especially in college with the smaller schools but I doubt Vegas is involved...but mobs and syndicates maybe....if San Diego was ever at 2.5 I would have thought maybe something was fishy but I dont think any SD backers cashed tickets.....I always get leary when a line or total falls directly in between line movements

                    PEACE
                    Last edited by MtrCtyPimp; 02-05-2008, 12:54 AM.

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                    • #25
                      Wager details for ticket number 18403292-1:

                      Wager Type: Parlay (5 team)
                      Wager Status: Loss
                      Risk / To Win Amount: 50.00 / 1,217.95 (USD) Accepted 2/4/2008 7:38 PM - EST


                      Item #1
                      Wager Type: Spread
                      Outcome: Win
                      Sport / Period: NBA Basketball / Game
                      Line:
                      Utah Jazz 2/4/2008 9:05:01 PM - (EST)
                      -4 -110
                      Opponent: New Orleans Hornets

                      Item #2
                      Wager Type: Spread
                      Outcome: Win
                      Sport / Period: NBA Basketball / Game
                      Line:
                      Chicago Bulls 2/4/2008 10:05:01 PM - (EST)
                      -1 -110
                      Opponent: Seattle Supersonics

                      Item #3
                      Wager Type: Spread
                      Outcome: Win
                      Sport / Period: NCAA Basketball / Game
                      Line:
                      Kansas 2/4/2008 9:00:01 PM - (EST)
                      -18½ -110
                      Opponent: Missouri

                      Item #4
                      Wager Type: Spread
                      Outcome: Loss
                      Sport / Period: NCAA Basketball / Game
                      Line:
                      San Diego 2/4/2008 10:00:01 PM - (EST)
                      -3½ -110
                      Opponent: Pepperdine

                      Item #5
                      Wager Type: Spread
                      Outcome: Pending
                      Sport / Period: NCAA Basketball / Game
                      Line:
                      Saint Mary's CA 2/4/2008 11:00:01 PM - (EST)
                      -3 -110
                      Opponent: Gonzaga

                      unreal, i lost this ticket by a 1/2 point in the SD game....This is the 6th parlay ive lost in the last 2 weeks by a 1/2 point......UNReal
                      jordanrules..................

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by MtrCtyPimp
                        I dont think Vegas has anything to do with this shit.....I know there has been point shaving in the past so thats not out of the question especially in college with the smaller schools but I doubt Vegas is involved

                        PEACE
                        Pimp, c'mon man, you probably know more about this shit than anyone on this site...you know the deal

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by LVJimmy
                          Pimp, c'mon man, you probably know more about this shit than anyone on this site...you know the deal
                          Vegas does not make their money from the sportsbooks and if anything limits the action they take on college wagering....they are not in business to break sports gambling operation as Vegas is corporate now.

                          PEACE

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by MtrCtyPimp
                            Vegas does not make their money from the sportsbooks and if anything limits the action they take on college wagering....they are not in business to break sports gambling operation as Vegas is corporate now.

                            PEACE
                            there is no way vegas can predict a total or a spread like they do without havind a say so, if you really think there is no fixing going on then, welll i dont know what else to tell you...
                            jordanrules..................

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                            • #29
                              I dont have any idea whether Vegas has a hand in it or not. But I do think that someone does. Too many games land so close or on the number. MCP you named a few and that was just tonight. Sometimes I honestly feel that the game is destined to land on a certain number or at least have a certain side cover. Whether that is through the players, coaches, refs, I dont know. The intelligent part of me says that its not possible. Would be way too difficult to pull off. Someone would rat it out eventually. But I have seen some crazy calls, non calls. I have also seen some teams foul down 10 with 10 seconds left. For what? Literally impossible to make up a 10 point gap in that amount of time. Then the next night a team is down 3 with 2 or 3 seconds left and they let the team inbound the ball and stand there with the ball as time runs out. Makes no sense. Plus, in the pros, they hardly foul at all at end of games anymore. Used to be you could count on 10-12 points in the final minute of a close game in the NBA. No more. Guess what I am saying is that I wrestle in my mind with this issue quite often. I have just resigned myself to thinking that if there is some funny stuff going on, I just hope I am on the right side of it. Tonight, with SD, I wasnt and that sucks. Enough of my rambling, just wanted to give my 2 cents.
                              "The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by those who don't have it." George Bernard Shaw

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                              • #30
                                I should clarify because after I read my post I think I will get people that will disagree and I dont blame you.

                                Yes, they do foul in the NBA to end games. Shouldnt have said they didnt. But the game has to be much closer than it used to have to be, the MAJORITY of the time. I am speaking in majorities here. Sure, there are exceptions. But the last minute of an NBA game 6 plus years ago from what I remember is a lot different than the last minute presently.

                                And your two 7 unit totals, MCP, what a bitch that was. We were well on pace for over in the first all game. At about the 3 minute mark I think we only needed bout 10 points. Then with the under, it was well on pace to go under. Then I checked the finals and low and behold they went in opposite directions. Go figure. You had those games capped right as far as Im concerned, just a bunch of bad luck I guess. Good job with the second halves. Made up for it somewhat.
                                "The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by those who don't have it." George Bernard Shaw

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